Now, I'm not scholar but do enjoy a nice healthy session of arguing with folks but do not give two fucks about engaging in useless, pointless, oxymoronic arguments. Therefore, something that I've learned over this internet era is how to spot a troll and how to peacefully rid of one.
To start, one needs to know what a troll is. Googled this shit and voila! we get: a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.
Now, it is not stated in this internet definition but trolls come in all shapes, colors, creeds, religions and sizes. Trolls have the ability to exist in all types of environments and forums. They mingle and interact with the locals to set foot and have knowledge to prepare and strategize an attack.
Once a troll has found its victim(s), it will test its limits by throwing in a few rocks here and there and await a respond from the community it has targeted. Once the bait has been taken, the troll proceeds to feed off it's victims' responds and counter arguments by inciting more and more inflammatory and upsetting arguments. It enlarges it's web of hooks and engorges itself to a frenzy of excitement. Once a troll has spread its vicious poison around a forum or community and upset the locals to the point the community takes necessary removal actions, it leaves a horrible after taste in the mouth an a peaceful community shatter.
Thus, a very simple, effective, and peaceful solution for the eradication of trolls is to not feed them. Let the troll starve and make erratic decisions on its own to get itself booted off. Engaging a troll is pointless and counterproductive. A reactionary approach to trolls is futile. One will always lose when feeding a troll. Its is best to just look at the troll, laugh at the troll and proceed with normal business without taking part in its feeding.
Best of luck and good vibes to all of you compeers and to the troll out there, I only got one thing to say:
Good post elgranduderino and pretty much what I have said all along...
I have the same thing to say to the troll .......
I find it interesting when people try to upset me. I'm an admin of a forum, I've already heard it and may engage just for some sport, but I normally have a slant that aware people will notice is actually undercutting the troll's argument.
or not
Anyway, burger is cooking, time to get off my buns and prepare my bun to receive said burger.
Sounds like a northern thing
Need to have a troll hunter like Hans
There you go shagster! Sometimes you feed the troll & sometimes the troll feeds you. ;) I like your style
Dig your style to, elgranduderino 8)
Quote from: elgranduderino on January 15, 2014, 09:48:15 PM
...a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent...
Um, have you looked at the majority of the conversations on this forum?
;D
It's a miracle if they stay on topic for more than a couple of responses.
In fact the one time I almost left the forum was because a thread had been locked because it's originator complained it was off topic.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 16, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
Quote from: elgranduderino on January 15, 2014, 09:48:15 PM
...a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent...
Um, have you looked at the majority of the conversations on this forum?
;D
It's a miracle if they stay on topic for more than a couple of responses.
In fact the one time I almost left the forum was because a thread had been locked because it's originator complained it was off topic.
I've avoided forums in general for a couple of years due to this type of thing (trolls & derailed threads). I guess I'm either over it, or forget how annoying it can be... I don't mind if a topic goes off track occasionally (& hopefully returned), but imo, it's better than dealing with a bunch of reactionary troll-tards who have nothing better to do than piss on my fucking rug, man. ;)
Quote from: Rev. TJ on January 16, 2014, 08:29:25 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on January 16, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
Quote from: elgranduderino on January 15, 2014, 09:48:15 PM
...a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent...
Um, have you looked at the majority of the conversations on this forum?
;D
It's a miracle if they stay on topic for more than a couple of responses.
In fact the one time I almost left the forum was because a thread had been locked because it's originator complained it was off topic.
I've avoided forums in general for a couple of years due to this type of thing (trolls & derailed threads). I guess I'm either over it, or forget how annoying it can be... I don't mind if a topic goes off track occasionally (& hopefully returned), but imo, it's better than dealing with a bunch of reactionary troll-tards who have nothing better to do than piss on my fucking rug, man. ;)
Welcome to the forum where all the troll-tards hang out dude.
I can't think of a thread that doesn't deviate eventually.
Most of the time it's not really intentional it's just when you sit with a bunch of stoners and try to have a sensible conversation you're just looking for trouble.
Thanks.
I would be shocked if there are more troll-tards here than the last 2 forums I was on (at least I'm hoping ...)
They were guitar & gear based forums where most everyone gave themselves the hat of "supreme genius" - which never seemed to fit properly. Anyway, I don't mind if a thread goes off topic, it's the annoying little trolls that do nothing more than waste everyone's time that really bust my friggin' agates
... I'd rather deal with stoner conversations from 15 angles, than deal with 1 troll! ;)
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Welcome to the forum where all the troll-tards hang out dude.
I can't think of a thread that doesn't deviate eventually.
Most of the time it's not really intentional it's just when you sit with a bunch of stoners and try to have a sensible conversation you're just looking for trouble.
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I'm not a stoner, dude. Yet I often have my "what day is this?" moments ;)
Couldn't be the oat sodas and Caucasians though...
Re: trolls. Short version- I won't abide rug-pissin paraquats.
ahhh yes Meekon....I remember those days well!!
I think we were all a bit miffed about being scolded for going off topic!
This is a different type of Troll we have in our midst... a far more serious one! And one that should be ignored at all costs! :)
Fuck...if we stayed on topic the whole time then I wouldn't want to be here any more for sure dude! :)
Peace.
There are topics?
Fuck.
topic?? Is this a.... What topic is this?
Ok I will admit it....I am the worst offender when it come to staying on topic....I can't help it dudes....it may be genetic??
If someone post something that gets my attention....I just go off on tangent about that interesting point.
I mean really we're dudes....dudes can't be bothered about that stuff....life goes on man. 8)
Quote from: Masked Dude on January 16, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
There are topics?
Fuck.
You see how this all goes so wrong so quickly.....? This not Naam man...there are roolz!
Well some rules! Well ad lib rules....they're the best type! :)
Now CCK we were talking bowling bowls now weren't we? ;)
Peace dudes.
Quote from: cckeiser on January 16, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
topic?? Is this a.... What topic is this?
Ok I will admit it....I am the worst offender when it come to staying on topic....I can't help it dudes....it may be genetic??
If someone post something that gets my attention....I just go off on tangent about that interesting point.
I mean really we're dudes....dudes can't be bothered about that stuff....life goes on man. 8)
My guess is that the average thread stays on topic for maybe 8 to 10 posts and then some dude's flashback kicks in and off we go into off topic land! Sort of like every dude's toe slips over the line once in a while.
That's not trolling...that's conversation man! :)
hmmm... i don't think that derailing a conversation is the point or message here rather the malicious intend to frustrate and incite discord within a community. :-[ And in respond to approaching it like a dude, well... arguing and feeding trolls with reactionary tactics would be very undude in my humble opinion but that is just my opinion. Thus the pacifist approach I presented. Let the troll exist... ignore and continue floating in the river of life... good vibes to all.
elgranduderino mate ...with the greatest respect. I know why you posted and what you posted and what the subject was about. As does every other dude here!
However we've been here before and have dealt with it before .... your approach is the best one for sure... no issues with that!
Meekon was expressing his feelings about how we roll on his board...let's talk about cars and end up about clouds! :)
As I said mate... I agree with you...reactionaries (or proper trolls) need to be ignored!
I like your pacifistic ways...I agree and so do most of the folks here.... I already said...don't ban the troll ...ignore him.
Now how is your rug mate? Mine needs hoovered! ;)
Peace dude
Nice video that seems appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E)
Quote from: elgranduderino on January 17, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
hmmm... i don't think that derailing a conversation is the point or message here rather the malicious intend to frustrate and incite discord within a community. :-[ And in respond to approaching it like a dude, well... arguing and feeding trolls with reactionary tactics would be very undude in my humble opinion but that is just my opinion. Thus the pacifist approach I presented. Let the troll exist... ignore and continue floating in the river of life... good vibes to all.
I like yer style dude. Fuck it man can't be worried bout that shit, life goes on man.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 17, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
Nice video that seems appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E)
I quite enjoyed "You Can't trust Science!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRLR9jhP_DM) (linked off the previous video) as well.
I will admit I only followed the link because of this:
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/KRLR9jhP_DM/default.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRLR9jhP_DM)
;D
Quote from: BikerDude on January 17, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
Nice video that seems appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E)
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Quote from: meekon5 on January 18, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on January 17, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
Nice video that seems appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_PfBuyR6E)
I quite enjoyed "You Can't trust Science!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRLR9jhP_DM) (linked off the previous video) as well.
I will admit I only followed the link because of this:
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/KRLR9jhP_DM/default.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRLR9jhP_DM)
;D
;D(http://www.jonathandoctor.net/images/facebook_like_button_big-small.jpg)