Howdy, y'all. I'm new here too, and want to help and serve the Dudeist community. How may I do so?
Relax!
Nothing is fucked. I'm trying, man.
No disrespect. I like your enthusiasm.
But to my point of view, a Dude is, a Dude doesn't need to try.
;)
Quote from: meekon5 on January 02, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
No disrespect. I like your enthusiasm.
But to my point of view, a Dude is, a Dude doesn't need to try.
;)
None taken. Well, I dig your style too, man.
As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart, the wind cannot overturn a mountain. All is vanity, man, but the Rev abides.
I am a very complicated case, meekon. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Rev's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind limber.
Also: I'm a veteran, and I didn't see see my buddies die face down in the sand so that I could sit back and not help others get their slack on. And I just want to get involved, to better serve all the Dudeists, past, present, and future. Can you dig, meekon5?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 02, 2014, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on January 02, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
No disrespect. I like your enthusiasm.
But to my point of view, a Dude is, a Dude doesn't need to try.
;)
None taken. Well, I dig your style too, man.
As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart, the wind cannot overturn a mountain. All is vanity, man, but the Rev abides.
I am a very complicated case, meekon. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Rev's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind limber.
Also: I'm a veteran, and I didn't see see my buddies die face down in the sand so that I could sit back and not help others get their slack on. And I just want to get involved, to better serve all the Dudeists, past, present, and future. Can you dig, meekon5?
Try here dude: http://dudespaper.com/contribute/ (http://dudespaper.com/contribute/) 8)
There's also my little thing, throwing food at people
http://dudeism.com/smf/general-discussion/food-bank/ (http://dudeism.com/smf/general-discussion/food-bank/)
One hint on this, dumpster dive in higher class neighborhoods, the food's better. They also toss a LOT more perfectly good stuff because it isn't up the the blemish free state that their customers require.
Quote from: jdurand on January 02, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
There's also my little thing, throwing food at people
http://dudeism.com/smf/general-discussion/food-bank/ (http://dudeism.com/smf/general-discussion/food-bank/)
One hint on this, dumpster dive in higher class neighborhoods, the food's better. They also toss a LOT more perfectly good stuff because it isn't up the the blemish free state that their customers require.
Good stuff. To this end, I am looking for other Dudeists who live in the Boston area (like I do). Please email/pm me if you've got any good leads, man.
And you could join the team on Kiva:
Kiva Lending Team: The Little Lebowski Urban Achievers (Dudeism) (http://www.kiva.org/team/dudeism).
I'm always a little cautious because we are not an evangelical group.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 03, 2014, 11:10:11 AM
I'm always a little cautious because we are not an evangelical group.
Cautious about what exactly? Just asking.
Me too, by the way; I am not evangelically-minded either, man. I just want to meet other Dudeists. Is that wrong? Am I wrong?
I'm afraid I'm the self appointed christian finder general.
I don't mind christians on the whole but we have had a few individuals come on here marching around telling everyone what and how to do things.
We've also had schisms caused by people who have had the wrong idea as to what this site is actually about.
Your biggest problem is you are talking to a group of people who base their association on being without rules, basically the biggest bunch of slackers you could find in one place.
So when I said:
Quote from: meekon5 on January 02, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
Relax!
I meant that quite literally.
There is a lot of things that just seem to gel and suddenly we are doing things. Do look at the Dudespaper, Kiva, Lebowski fests, Oliver occasionally does stuff, even do stuff yourself, for a while we had a Local Dudeist League meeting going here in Hampshire UK (ps must re-do that again).
Dudeism being a branch of Toaism, just sit and let things happen, plant seeds and let them grow.
Ya, what M5 says. Sit back, relax and have a beer. Or whatever vice you have that relaxes you...
Oh, and welcome to our little beach partay.
Quote from: Hominid on January 03, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
Ya, what M5 says. Sit back, relax and have a beer. Or whatever vice you have that relaxes you...
Oh, and welcome to our little beach partay.
Thanks, man. Yes: in terms of the temporal/material plane of self-identification, I actually identify as a Christian. To me, JC was The Ultimate and Perfect Dudeist. But that's just, like, my opinion, man. However, I am hardly a Bible-banging fundy type. I'm not trying to scam anybody here. Dig?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 03, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: Hominid on January 03, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
Ya, what M5 says. Sit back, relax and have a beer. Or whatever vice you have that relaxes you...
Oh, and welcome to our little beach partay.
Thanks, man. Yes: in terms of the temporal/material plane of self-identification, I actually identify as a Christian. To me, JC was The Ultimate and Perfect Dudeist. But that's just, like, my opinion, man. However, I am hardly a Bible-banging fundy type. I'm not trying to scam anybody here. Dig?
Well I like your style. I can dig. I see JC as the Dude of dudes, and expect no one to agree b'cause it is like just my opinion and the way I roll. Peace to all my fellow compeer dudes whatever path they see in their walk 8)
Quote from: meekon5 on January 03, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
We've also had schisms caused by people who have had the wrong idea as to what this site is actually about.
How'd you know that I identify as a Christian? What's wrong with being a Christian Dude?
And as long as you mention it, what IS this site actually about? Just asking, man.
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 03, 2014, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 03, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: Hominid on January 03, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
Ya, what M5 says. Sit back, relax and have a beer. Or whatever vice you have that relaxes you...
Oh, and welcome to our little beach partay.
Thanks, man. Yes: in terms of the temporal/material plane of self-identification, I actually identify as a Christian. To me, JC was The Ultimate and Perfect Dudeist. But that's just, like, my opinion, man. However, I am hardly a Bible-banging fundy type. I'm not trying to scam anybody here. Dig?
Well I like your style. I can dig. I see JC as the Dude of dudes, and expect no one to agree b'cause it is like just my opinion and the way I roll. Peace to all my fellow compeer dudes whatever path they see in their walk 8)
Thanks, man. In my sight, JC is the greatest Dude who ever lived (and died for me). Nobody fucks with the Jesus. Yes, I identify as a Christian, but also I have little regard for "Churchianity". You know?
That's the way to roll dude. We all have our backgrounds that create filters, but as long as we don't push our shit onto other people like some Fascist pig throwing coffee cups everywhere, it's all cool. You'll learn there's no religion or dogma associated with Dudeism... like M5 said, it's a branch of Taoism... no religious allegories or parallels (except to poke fun at them!) exist here.
Kick back and enjoy the hang-out.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 03, 2014, 08:49:33 PM
How'd you know that I identify as a Christian? What's wrong with being a Christian Dude?
I didn't say there was anything wrong with Dudeist Christians. We have had some real douche bags come shouting their point of view here. Not saying you're one.
How did I know? There is just a certain way certain people present themselves that suggests they come from a christian point of view. I have no problem with that. I can just smell it on certain people.
;D
Don't get me wrong we have had problems from all sorts of types of people.
Personally I am a Taoist Pagan (that's a whole thread in itself to explain) Dudeist.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 03, 2014, 08:49:33 PM
And as long as you mention it, what IS this site actually about? Just asking, man.
That's a very big question.
I think most people here would have a different answer.
Do try to understand that people like DB, CC, and myself (and probably a number of others), are survivors of a number of huge flame wars here on the forum.
I use it as a testing ground for my opinion of what Dudeism is.
I make a definition between arguing and just yelling. I enjoy a good well thought out argument, it's how one tests an opinion, if you can't coherently argue your point you should then question the depth of your understanding and your belief.
It's also a meeting place, a bar (a pub for UK Dudes), and a bit of a community center.
Opinions anyone else (like I need to ask)?
Look: I am not here to start any trouble, man, nor am I here to try and get anybody to think or believe like me. I'm just here to chill and relax, and to seek out other Dudeists who live in my area to hang out with in person. Can anybody please help me to get into the DuDeIsM forum on Facebook?
Look, nobody calls me a troublemaker. You got the wrong guy. I'm the Swami. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Swamness, or uh, The Swahman, or "the Reverend Swami Iconocclesiates" if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
...Look, nobody calls me a troublemaker. You got the wrong guy...
No one is Dude.
Problem as usual is we are all reading text that has no emotional context.
Sorry if I came across accusationally.
No problemo, man. You did not come across as accusatory, dude, and I am not bothered in the least. I believe that JC is who He says that he is, that he is neither a liar nor a madman. You dig?
Having said that, I also have little use nor much regard for American-style Churchianity. Also, I think that an institutional church is one of the last places you'd want to go in order to find a follower of The Way, a true disciple of JC, or a "Christian" in the parlance of our times.
And I am not evangelistic in the slightest. What's more, I enjoy a jay as much as you probably do. But, my drink is cheap red jug wine, and I don't like liquor that much.
Soon I'd like to write an article (for submission to the Dudespaper) about JC as the Ultimate and Perfect Dude. Do you think that it will go over well, if it gets published?
Quote...are survivors of a number of huge flame wars here on the forum.
MASSIVE flame wars. I think quite a number of people left because of it, which is too bad, but hey - some where shit disturbers anyway.
Icon dude - it'll take some time to get to know all the characters here, and what M5 says is true: text has no emotional content, so that must be taken into consideration. Having been 'round these parts for a little while, I can attest to everyone's dudeness... they're a bunch of cool, articulate individuals with some experience and wisdom to share.
If you want to have some fun, make some dogmatic statement that contradicts a fundamental tenet of Dudeism. Watch the sparks fly.
KIDDING!!!
Again, welcome.
Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
KIDDING!!!
Again, welcome.
Thanks, man. I feel very much at home here.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
And I am not evangelistic in the slightest. What's more, I enjoy a jay as much as you probably do. But, my drink is cheap red jug wine, and I don't like liquor that much.
I prefer a nice glass of wine (or a sherry even), but will drink more or less anything with alcohol in it (apart from Malibu, I don't dig cocoanut).
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Soon I'd like to write an article (for submission to the Dudespaper) about JC as the Ultimate and Perfect Dude. Do you think that it will go over well, if it gets published?
Give it a go. See what happens.
Actually all I'm saying is welcome.
Just so everyone knows....I am not only an Atheist, I am an Anti-Theist. I will not hesitate to delete any bible thumping post and I Will delete the account of repeat offenders.
This ain't Nam....there are Rules! 8(
Having said all that....I am not against Christians joining dudeism and just abiding and takin' it easy. Just leave your Dogma at the door dudes and abide. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Just so everyone knows....I am not only an Atheist, I am an Anti-Theist. I will not hesitate to delete any bible thumping post and I Will delete the account of repeat offenders.
This ain't Nam....there are Rules! 8(
Having said all that....I am not against Christians joining dudeism and just abiding and takin' it easy. Just leave your Dogma at the door dudes and abide. 8)
Let's be honest about things, man. You just simply don't like Christians and Christianity; am I wrong?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Just so everyone knows....I am not only an Atheist, I am an Anti-Theist. I will not hesitate to delete any bible thumping post and I Will delete the account of repeat offenders.
This ain't Nam....there are Rules! 8(
Having said all that....I am not against Christians joining dudeism and just abiding and takin' it easy. Just leave your Dogma at the door dudes and abide. 8)
Let's be honest about things, man. You just simply don't like Christians and Christianity; am I wrong?
*Sigh* - Icon dude - don't be reactionary. C-dude is simply stating the rules for this forum. Think John Lennon's "Imagine". That's what we abide in here. Theism is old-school. Don't pick a fight - you'll lose.
Just asking, if one of us from Chrestian background now seeing and feeling the Dudeism philosophy and what have you happens to see a Dudeist correlation, are we not allowed to share it here by quote? Feel it is fair question being as how I have seen Buddhist, Taoist, etc quoted around here. I personally have no desire to be evangelizing nor pushing any dogmas on dudes. I see, Tao & Buddhism being often very much in line with old Chrestian without the rituals and added dogmas of papal reactionaries. Just my small opinion... But,hey, I enjoy abiding and value your what have yous. Peace, and take take it easy, dig your styles.
cckeiser never answered my question. You just simply do not like Christians; am I wrong?
Hey, I'm not here to start any trouble or to fight, nor am I here to preach or get anybody to think or believe as I do. I'm here to make new friends, hang out, and learn stuff. And I will not push any religious dogmas on anybody, as long as nobody pushes any angry-atheist anti-theisitic hidden-agenda dogmas on me in return. That kind of aggression will not stand, man. Live and let live.
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 04, 2014, 04:16:28 PM
Just asking, if one of us from Chrestian background now seeing and feeling the Dudeism philosophy and what have you happens to see a Dudeist correlation, are we not allowed to share it here by quote? Feel it is fair question being as how I have seen Buddhist, Taoist, etc quoted around here. I personally have no desire to be evangelizing nor pushing any dogmas on dudes. I see, Tao & Buddhism being often very much in line with old Chrestian without the rituals and added dogmas of papal reactionaries. Just my small opinion... But,hey, I enjoy abiding and value your what have yous. Peace, and take take it easy, dig your styles.
Good point, man. I've already quoted from the
Bhagavad-Gita and the
Srimad-Bhagavatam in other threads; is that considered "Hindu Scripture-banging"? And I quoted a Buddhist proverb (about the wheel that follows the ox); is that looked at as "Buddha-banging"?
So just to get things straight: what exactly is our operative definition of "Bible-banging"? Am I allowed to quote from anything and everything, other than
the Bible? Just asking, dudes; I do not want to step over the line here and inadvertently get myself in trouble.
Another thing: I am also a member of the Church of the SubGenius; if I wanted to quote from Rev. Stang, Dr. Drummond, or the Book of the SubGenius is somebody gonna accuse me of "'Bob'"-banging"?
Quoteas long as nobody pushes any angry-atheist anti-theisitic hidden-agenda dogmas on me in return. That kind of aggression will not stand, man. Live and let live.
I don't think anyone here has an angry atheistic slant per se; but be aware most of us don't subscribe to any theistic belief.
But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism. YOUR rules, not ours.
(Post deleted by the Swami. Sorry about that.)
Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism. YOUR rules, not ours.
No, you are not right. It's not about my rules. I'm not here to preach anything to anybody, and don't want to be preached to myself. That's all I am saying.
And nobody answered my question, either. So please allow me to repeat it: what exactly is our operative definition of "Bible-thumping"? I want that to be made clear to me, just so I can make sure not to go over the line. Or, am I allowed to quote from anything and everything
other than the Bible?
Damn, I did not mean to double-post. Sorry about that. Hmmm, let me try and delete the other...
Hm. I guess the difference is subtle... yes, you're not preaching or bible-bashing. Yet you claim to be a theist, so that just means it's just a matter of time before you'll tangle with any one of us. ;-)
That's all.
Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
Hm. I guess the difference is subtle... yes, you're not preaching or bible-bashing. Yet you claim to be a theist, so that just means it's just a matter of time before you'll tangle with any one of us. ;-)
That's all.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hominid on January 04, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
But it seems "living and let live" is on YOUR terms of no one offending your sense of anti-theism. YOUR rules, not ours.
No, you are not right. It's not about my rules. I'm not here to preach anything to anybody, and don't want to be preached to myself. That's all I am saying.
And nobody answered my question, either. So please allow me to repeat it: what exactly is our operative definition of "Bible-thumping"? I want that to be made clear to me, just so I can make sure not to go over the line. Or, am I allowed to quote from anything and everything other than the Bible?
Damn, I did not mean to double-post. Sorry about that. Hmmm, let me try and delete the other...
Seriously, friends: I'm not trying to scam anybody here, and I'm not trying to start any trouble, much less a fight.
It's a fair question: what exactly is this forum's operative definition of "Bible-thumping"? I just want to know about that up-front, so that I do not accidentally engage in any. Am I being very undude in even asking about this?
Tangle with anybody? Why would I want to tangle with anybody? Why would anybody want to tangle with me? Now,
that is undude.
Say Homonid, would you like to know what I
really think about the matter?
QuoteSay Homonid, would you like to know what I really think about the matter?
Well, sure, just be up-front. The only point here is the difference between how we express our stance of being theistic and non-theistic. No one has accused you of being a bible-basher; I'm just saying that being a theist leans you towards the latter. So far, no need to argue. Just explaining the ground rules.
Watching this thread I think I will be alienated because of belief in the divine of any kind. Is it me or the quoting of Tao and sutras from Buddhists a push to acknowledgment of some kind of unknowable things often believed by some to be divine? I hope I can be real and share in here and not worry my spiritual Johnson is going to be cut off. In the Dudespaper there are several articles that acknowledge JC, but is it taboo in here?
Not sure you could quote any popular saying without it being tied to SOME religion or other. There's also music, mostly what isn't based on Shakespeare is based on religion...or both.
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Really dislike those goldbrickers
Dammit, another double-post. Sorry, dudes.
First of all: frankly, I think that some of you just simply do not like Christians and Christianity, and that you are using the Dudeist//Taosist thing as a pretext through which you might ostensibly justify this prejudice. Otherwise, comments like cckeiser's about being an "anti-theist" would not be necessary, as it's needlessly antagonistic IMO.
For a true dude is not "anti"-anything, in my opinion.
A true dude favors honesty, humility, and (above all) love. These are the Three Treasures.
A true dude opposes greed, hypocrisy, and self-righteousness. But that (opposing greed, etc.) is different than being "anti"-minded.
A true dude does not judge others, does not compare him- or her-self to others, and suspends their propensity to understand others.
In short: a true dude lives, and lets live.
For another thing: became a Dudeist in order to have some kind of like-minded fellowship among the community of other dudes, for intellectual stimulation, to learn from others, and simply to have a few laughs.
I DID NOT become a Dudeist so that I could get mixed up in some kind of weird quasi-religion, or else some kind of "cult" in the parlance of our times. In a sense, Dudeism is not "real" to me. And in a sense, it is.
Those who know what Dudeism is, do not say, and those who say what Dudeism is, do not know. This is my realization.
Disagreement does not equal disrespect. Expressing a disagreement does not constitute an ad hominem attack against the person being disagreed with. If it did, then we'd be in trouble, as that's when a "parody religion" turns into an actually destructive "cult".
Non-conformist groups are often just vectors of control for people who take themselves and the groups with which they identify (and indeed, by which they identify themselves) waaaaay to seriously. And in my estimation, it's not so different here in this forum. Groupthink is a universal phenomenon, common among all kids of cohesive groups. And I resist and reject groupthink in all forms, and in all situational contexts.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 08:41:42 PM
First of all: frankly, I think that some of you just simply do not like Christians and Christianity, and that you are using the Dudeist//Taosist thing as a pretext through which you might ostensibly justify this prejudice. Otherwise, comments like cckeiser's about being an "anti-theist" would not be necessary, as it's needlessly antagonistic IMO.
For a true dude is not "anti"-anything, in my opinion.
A true dude favors honesty, humility, and (above all) love. These are the Three Treasures.
A true dude opposes greed, hypocrisy, and self-righteousness. But that (opposing greed, etc.) is different than being "anti"-minded.
A true dude does not judge others, does not compare him- or her-self to others, and suspends their propensity to understand others.
In short: a true dude lives, and lets live.
For another thing: became a Dudeist in order to have some kind of like-minded fellowship among the community of other dudes, for intellectual stimulation, to learn from others, and simply to have a few laughs.
I DID NOT become a Dudeist so that I could get mixed up in some kind of weird quasi-religion, or else some kind of "cult" in the parlance of our times. In a sense, Dudeism is not "real" to me. And in a sense, it is.
Those who know what Dudeism is, do not say, and those who say what Dudeism is, do not know. This is my realization.
Disagreement does not equal disrespect. Expressing a disagreement does not constitute an ad hominem attack against the person being disagreed with. If it did, then we'd be in trouble, as that's when a "parody religion" turns into an actually destructive "cult".
Non-conformist groups are often just vectors of control for people who take themselves and the groups with which they identify (and indeed, by which they identify themselves) waaaaay to seriously. And in my estimation, it's not so different here in this forum. Groupthink is a universal phenomenon, common among all kids of cohesive groups. And I resist and reject groupthink in all forms, and in all situational contexts.
Now that that's out of the way: how can I help, dudes?
I'm just "gun shy" dude...been through way too many battles with fundamentalist who have taken over other discussion boards and swamped them with their gangs....it's just a reflex action anymore.
I am a Christian dude....it's my middle name! I was raised Roman Catholic. 12 years of Catholic schools dude....But pretty much cured myself of that some 40 years ago.
I do not hate Christians....I pity them...and also fear them....just as much as I do the Islamist and any other militant Fundamentalist.
I do not want to see Dudeism taken over by the Christian Church and made just another extension of their faith as they have done down through history with other beliefs. (I saw a Dude Jesus somewhere not that long ago....really pissed me off!)
Dudeism/Taoism has no gods...it's an Atheistic philosophy. We are not concerned with the Hereafter, just the Here and Now...and how to abide and take er easy when surrounded by Fascist...Nihilist...Marmots...Real Reactionaries and other Human Paraquat of all types.
We just want to relax and enjoy a J ,and maybe a white russian now and then and the simple pleasures in life....you know driving around...bowling and the occasional acid flashbacks.
But I am Not the voice of Dudeism....I am just one of many here and elsewhere....Dudeism is organic it twists and turns and grows with its members. I am just one voice among many.
Now that we all have gotten all the shit out of the way....carry on dudes. ;D
Take er easy....abide and....please do no harm dudes.
"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."
Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."
Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81
good words dude. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
"Words of truth are not pleasing.
Pleasing words are not truthful.
The wise one does not argue.
He who argues is not wise.
A wise man of Tao knows the subtle truth,
And may not be learned.
A learned person is knowledgeable but may not know the subtle truth of Tao.
A saint does not possess and accumulate surplus for personal desire.
The more he helps others, the richer his life becomes.
The more he gives to others, the more he gets in return.
The Tao of Nature benefits and does not harm.
The Way of a saint is to act naturally without contention."
Tao Te Ching, Chapter 81
good words dude. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
I'm just "gun shy" dude...been through way too many battles with fundamentalist who have taken over other discussion boards and swamped them with their gangs....it's just a reflex action anymore.
I am a Christian dude....it's my middle name! I was raised Roman Catholic. 12 years of Catholic schools dude....But pretty much cured myself of that some 40 years ago.
I do not hate Christians....I pity them...and also fear them....just as much as I do the Islamist and any other militant Fundamentalist.
I do not want to see Dudeism taken over by the Christian Church and made just another extension of their faith as they have done down through history with other beliefs. (I saw a Dude Jesus somewhere not that long ago....really pissed me off!)
Dudeism/Taoism has no gods...it's an Atheistic philosophy. We are not concerned with the Hereafter, just the Here and Now...and how to abide and take er easy when surrounded by Fascist...Nihilist...Marmots...Real Reactionaries and other Human Paraquat of all types.
We just want to relax and enjoy a J ,and maybe a white russian now and then and the simple pleasures in life....you know driving around...bowling and the occasional acid flashbacks.
But I am Not the voice of Dudeism....I am just one of many here and elsewhere....Dudeism is organic it twists and turns and grows with its members. I am just one voice among many.
Now that we all have gotten all the shit out of the way....carry on dudes. ;D
Take er easy....abide and....please do no harm dudes.
It's simple: I am not a fundamentalist anything. And I am not a Bible-thumping fundamentalist by a long shot. But I do beleive that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman.
And you never answered my question, man: what is our operative definition of "Bible-thumper" here?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman.
That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".
Don't push what further? So now you are telling me what I am and am not allowed to say, and how I am and am not allowed to say it?
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman.
That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".
Thank you for proving my point for me, cckeiser. You just don't like Christians and Christianity. Come on, admit it. I am not offended.
"Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it."
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Like "dude"....I already told you I was an Atheist And an Anti-Theist. That should have been clear enough.
Dude...do yourself a big one and do a forum search for "I was raised Roman Catholic" and read the post under my name.
I mean really "dude"....you haven't been here very long and you are already causing problems and upsetting our nice quiet beach community. You are just contributing to what we already feel about Christians and why we are very leery when one joins our forum. It very seldom turns out well. I was hoping you would be the exception "dude"....please do not prove me wrong.
You are This Close to getting booted "dude".
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
But I do believe that Jesus is who He says that He is, and that He is not a liar nor a madman.
That for me is Over The Line dude...it's preaching your faith and promoting your Christian pov. Anything similar will be quickly deleted.
And this is the end of the discussion dude.
Discussing your faith even in debate is the same as promoting it.
I was of two minds on whether to reply to you post or not....I did not and do not owe you anything, but gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied so we can all get on with getting on.
Do Not push it further "dude".
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And as long as I am abiding by the (above-posted) rules of these forums, cckeiser, then you have no right in any sense to dictate to me what I am and am not allowed to write, and how I am and am not allowed to right it YOU, sir, are over the line, and are very much in the wrong here. and what's more, your taking offense to differing points of view with respect to our individual interpretations of Dudeism makes you look like a hypocrite. Where's the tolerance in
that? You just come across like a condescending glassbowl when you write that you "pity" Christians (and by extension, that you pity me).
Shall I write to the Dudely Lama and ask him to arbitrate the matter, cckeiser?
Icon dude, you're asking for a definition of being a bible basher. You're doing it now by being so forward with your stance that Jesus is who he said he was. That being: the son of God, Savior of the world, THE one and only pre-eminent being that is the only hope for mankind. If you do not believe these things, don't call yourself a Christian. If you do, you can't call yourself a Dudeist, as Dudeism does not equal Theism.
Ya, let's see why Ollie has to say. He must be getting tired of this... ;-)
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 10:52:59 PM
Shall I write to the Dudely Lama and ask him to arbitrate the matter, cckeiser?
I already did.
PISSING MATCH!!!! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!
(Sorry, I got my shine on with some home brew)...
Good. In that case I will let him boot your ass off the forum! ;D
Above, I posted the terms of use that I agreed to abide by when I registered to use this forum. I do not see anything in there that says something along the lines of "Do not post anything about Jesus or Christianity" or "Do not post anything that cckeiser does not like to read about."
You're over the line, cckeiser. Stay in your lane, dude. As long as I am not breaking any of the rules, then you can stay out of policing me, in terms of imposing upon my freedom of expression. It makes you look like an intolerant hypocrite. I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:03:42 PM
Good. In that case I will let him boot your ass off the forum! ;D
You are being very un-dude. Wow, you are a very intolerant atheist. Just as intolerant as any fundy Bible-banger I ever met, in fact.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:04:06 PM
Above, I posted the terms of use that I agreed to abide by when I registered to use this forum. I do not see anything in there that says something along the lines of "Do not post anything about Jesus or Christianity" or "Do not post anything that cckeiser does not like to read about."
You're over the line, cckeiser. Stay in your lane, dude. As long as I am not breaking any of the rules, then you can stay out of policing me, in terms of imposing upon my freedom of expression. It makes you look like an intolerant hypocrite. I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
Agreed! ;D
Carry on dude. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:04:06 PM
Above, I posted the terms of use that I agreed to abide by when I registered to use this forum. I do not see anything in there that says something along the lines of "Do not post anything about Jesus or Christianity" or "Do not post anything that cckeiser does not like to read about."
You're over the line, cckeiser. Stay in your lane, dude. As long as I am not breaking any of the rules, then you can stay out of policing me, in terms of imposing upon my freedom of expression. It makes you look like an intolerant hypocrite. I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
Agreed! ;D
Carry on dude. 8)
Seriously? You are agreeing with me that you ought to stay in your lane?
right, ok then, now,
when you go out and see some people out of doors with no land lord; Give them a blanket and some food. There are always some groups like biker and non profits in local area that go out helping by distributing donated goods.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
You are being very un-dude. Wow, you are a very intolerant atheist. Just as intolerant as any fundy Bible-banger I ever met, in fact.
yeah, pretty much so....and it's getting worse all the time. I just know too much and it's all I can do to keep quiet.
But we made a deal, and I will keep to it if you will.
Let us both relax, that it easy and abide.
Do you bowl? We should get ourselves a lane dude. 8)
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
That is the deal "dude".
I will abide the deal if you do. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:12:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
You are being very un-dude. Wow, you are a very intolerant atheist. Just as intolerant as any fundy Bible-banger I ever met, in fact.
yeah, pretty much so....and it's getting worse all the time. I just know too much and it's all I can do to keep quiet.
But we made a deal, and I will keep to it if you will.
Let us both relax, that it easy and abide.
Do you bowl? We should get ourselves a lane dude. 8)
I am pouring myself a glass of jug wine right now. Salut!
Before we get to bowling, please tell me this: why do you pity Christians so, cckeiser?
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
That is the deal "dude".
I will abide the deal if you do. 8)
Please spell it out for me, man. You
still have not answered my question:
What is the operational definition of "Bible-thumping" in the context of this forum and how it is run? Or is that just a vague concept that gets to be subjectively and selectively defined by you, cckeiser?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:16:43 PM
I am pouring myself a glass of jug wine right now. Salut!
Before we get to bowling, please tell me this: why do you pity Christians so, cckeiser?
No can do dude....part of our deal remember. Besides...I already ranted enough for one lifetime.
Sorry for the delay in attending to this. I can understand the point of view of both sides. It's more of a style thing than a substance thing. People are free to talk about what they want to talk about here but it's really going to wear the patience of this forum if people argue anything from a metaphysical perspective. Dudeism is not anti-theist per se, rather I think it's non-theist in the same way as it's not-teapotist (cf Bertrand Russell). If someone keeps banging on about a teapot that exists in space then it's going to get irksome really quickly. When it comes to religion Dudeism is not interested in unproveable or untestable ideas about life the universe and everything, or at least not so long as they aren't hypothetical or at least funny. In the religious milieu, we're only interested in the allegorical or psychological or sociological stuff put forward by people like Jesus, the Buddha, etc. You can believe what you like but it will wear the patience of most of us if you use metaphysics to inform your arguments.
Some of us here are more sensitive than others when it comes to talking about Jesus stuff. I personally think it's fine so long as he's regarded as a character rather than a God or a mystical being. But one will not likely win many friends here by talking about how Jesus died for our sins or is the son of God or was resurrected - any more than one will if they go on about resurrection, a literalist interpretation of karma, The Law of Attraction or how crystals can cure cancer. In short, let's keep the superstition out of our nice little beach community. Glad to see you guys worked it out on your own though. This is one of the most civil places on the 'Net. Haven't had a dust up in some time. Which is nice.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
I'm not here to shove any Bible-talk down your throat, so kindly please do not shove any of your anti-theism down mine. Deal?
That is the deal "dude".
I will abide the deal if you do. 8)
Please spell it out for me, man. You still have not answered my question:
What is the operational definition of "Bible-thumping" in the context of this forum and how it is run? Or is that just a vague concept that gets to be subjectively and selectively defined by you, cckeiser?
You are pushing it again "dude". I am pretty sure you already know, and to pursue this discussion further will be violating our deal.
Let us end it here and let well enough alone. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:16:43 PM
I am pouring myself a glass of jug wine right now. Salut!
Before we get to bowling, please tell me this: why do you pity Christians so, cckeiser?
No can do dude....part of our deal remember. Besides...I already ranted enough for one lifetime.
QuoteI mean really "dude"....you haven't been here very long and you are already causing problems and upsetting our nice quiet beach community.
I believe that you owe me an apology, sir, for accusing me of causing problems. Are you willing to apologize to me for that, and admit to me that I was in fact not here to cause problems? Can we shake on that?
Quote from: forumdude on January 04, 2014, 11:26:18 PM
Haven't had a dust up in some time. Which is nice.
yeah, we were over due for one. 8)
Are you going to apologize to me, cckeiser, for calling me a problem-causer? Because I am not. And can we shake on it?
DUDES, TAKE IT EASY MAN!!
Take it easy!
This tread was about helping out in the community, let us take it easy and get back to it. 8)
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 04, 2014, 11:35:03 PM
DUDES, TAKE IT EASY MAN!!
Take it easy!
I'm perfectly calm, cckeiser. I'm calmer than you are.
Not in our lifetimes "dude". You were already causing a dust up....that is why I stepped in.
Leave it alone "dude" and abide by our deal. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 04, 2014, 11:40:54 PM
Not in our lifetimes "dude". You were already causing a dust up....that is why I stepped in.
Leave it alone "dude" and abide by our deal. 8)
Man, you are full of it. How was a causing a dust-up? By bringing up things that you do not like to hear/read about?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 04, 2014, 11:39:04 PM
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 04, 2014, 11:35:03 PM
DUDES, TAKE IT EASY MAN!!
Take it easy!
I'm perfectly calm, cckeiser. I'm calmer than you are.
Your out of your element... I Shagbeard said that... Y'all need take it easy. Your feathers are ruffled and not seeing straight. step back and just take it easy... please.
Who's got a jay?
I'm locking this thread. Please just take it easy, mangs. Let gonebys be gonebys.
Dudes, just a thought here.
Religious beliefs run deep in most people who have them. Because of that, when a belief is challenged or when a dude seeks to promote their beliefs, it can ignite passions that can get out of control. As dudes, IMHO, we need to cultivate the highest order of respect and courtesy that we can for each other in these, and all matters. The old adage of "live and let live," and "agree to disagree agreeably" come to my mind.
I respect all religious opinions and beliefs (some more than others to be honest) even if I disagree, or at least I try to do my best to do so, and have posted before that if you are a Hindu, or Muslim, or Christian or Pagan or what have you, and want to be a dude also, that's cool, do so, but understand that others may not share all of your beliefs. We as dudes should be relaxed when it comes to our inner beliefs, and as dude like as possible, and try to learn from each other. We would be best served by sharing our thoughts and beliefs rather than using said beliefs as a weapon to conquer the other dude.
Religion is a two edged sword; it can be a way to explore deeper things around you, AND, it can be the cause of things as terrible as wars also. So I guess I am saying let's treat our freedom to practice what ever religion we choose to follow with care and wisdom, including Dudeism. And, share our points of view in a relaxed helpful dude like manner, not in a way that tries to force a dude into your beliefs or "win the debate." Something we all are tempted to do at times.
Well, dudes, that's just like my opinion, man. Hope it helps. Abide.
PS, in this case, better that this thread is locked. Let's move on to new things.
If I can just throw in a final word as well:
We are still working on defining Dudeism. And as such there may be disagreements. But if people disagree then they have to remain cool about it. Personally I'm not fond of any theist or superstitious elements working their way into Dudeism. I recoil just as much from literalist interpretations of the Bible as I do from the "Law of Attraction" that the new ageists are fond of. And as such, like many of us, I have little patience for discussions on the topic because I already know they're going to lead to pointless and unresolvable discussions that ultimately have nothing to do with what Dudeism is all about.
Perhaps there needs to be a general rule against people delving too much into the supernatural. People are free to believe what they want when it comes to the unknowable, but I personally don't want to see any "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" arguments here. That includes things like Jesus as the son of God and reincarnation and praying for world peace. Only I'm not sure how that would be implemented. Something we might visit in another thread at some point. Just a thought.
Okay, I'm unlocking the thread again. If anyone wants to discuss ways to help spread the Dude word (or arguments why doing so would be unDude), they may continue with the requisite Dudely blessings.
Well, if Dudeism is entirely non-evangelistic in its approach to "spreading the word", then how are we to let others know about The Church of the LDD? I have a few ideas rolling around upstairs; may I bounce them off of all of you now?
For instance: right now I am broke, dead broke. However, if somebody can pay for the production of a bunch of stickers that read "The Dude Abides!" with the Dudeism URL for interested readers, and then ship those stickers to me here, then I'll volunteer to plaster them all over the place in my town. Or pamphlets; if somebody makes up a bunch of Dudeist tracts, and then ships them to me, then I'll volunteer to leave them all over town too. I could leave Dudeist tracts in public toilets, in laundromats, in libraries, in Unitarian Universalist churches, just all over the place.
Look, I live in Boston; there are lots of colleges and universities in this town. Like I said: I am broke, and so cannot pay for the production of the stickers/tracts myself, but I will volunteer to help design and distribute them.
Or we (seeing as this is the Church of the Latter-Day Dude) could start organizing Church revivals of sorts; we can call them "Dudevivals" and hold them in public parks, like on the Boston Common or in Harvard Yard. This would keep costs low, and all that would have to be paid for would be the necessary permits.
I spread the good word of Dudeism at my local In N Out Burger. Not during league play though. 8)
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 06, 2014, 10:57:36 PM
For instance: right now I am broke, dead broke. However, if somebody can pay for the production of a bunch of stickers that read "The Dude Abides!" with the Dudeism URL for interested readers, and then ship those stickers to me here, then I'll volunteer to plaster them all over the place in my town. Or pamphlets; if somebody makes up a bunch of Dudeist tracts, and then ships them to me, then I'll volunteer to leave them all over town too. I could leave Dudeist tracts in public toilets, in laundromats, in libraries, in Unitarian Universalist churches, just all over the place.
Look, I live in Boston; there are lots of colleges and universities in this town. Like I said: I am broke, and so cannot pay for the production of the stickers/tracts myself, but I will volunteer to help design and distribute them.
Or we (seeing as this is the Church of the Latter-Day Dude) could start organizing Church revivals of sorts; we can call them "Dudevivals" and hold them in public parks, like on the Boston Common or in Harvard Yard. This would keep costs low, and all that would have to be paid for would be the necessary permits.
Promotion? urls on stickers? Spreading the word? That sounds very unDude to me.
Then how else to gather the flock (so to speak)? What do you propose? Got any better ideas, man?
What I am proposing involves subtle means of getting Dudeism out there, without getting evangelistic and "in your face" about things. Guerrilla advertising tactics, in other words. Culture jamming and subvertizing rather than out-and-out evangelism. This could involve leaving tracts in laundromats, putting stickers on the inside of the stall in the public toilets, going into libraries and leaving flyers between the pages of books, that kind of thing.
Of course posting stickers and leaving brochures around is breaking laws (unless there happens to be a board marked "stick your stuff here, no problem"). Now granted, "everyone does it" but does Dudeism want to be everyone?
I have a Dudeism sticker on my car, but it's long since faded into unrecognizable. Guess it's a self-limiting advertising campaign.
As far as spreading the word, it seems to me most people who need to be Dudeists have probably already found us. Or not.
Quote from: jdurand on January 06, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
Of course posting stickers and leaving brochures around is breaking laws (unless there happens to be a board marked "stick your stuff here, no problem"). Now granted, "everyone does it" but does Dudeism want to be everyone?
Good point. This had not occurred to me, dude.
This is something I wrote (adapted from one of my favourite Zen stories) a few years back and still stand by it:
Quote from: meekon5
A Dude fills his house with oat soda and burgers from In-N-Out.
He sits out front with the door open.
If a reactionary,
Or a nihilist,
Should walk past and not notice,
What the fuck,
The Dude doesn't bother them.
But should a stranger pass and notice,
And approach the Dude,
He invites him in for a beverage,
And perhaps something to eat.
That is how Dudeism is passed on.
IMHDO
We don't have In-n-Out spots here, but my local Starbucks have a public board. (Well, the big one does.) I could make a littke flyer, 2- or 4-up, with info. Not sure how I feel about it, but it's doable.
I don't frequent the place, so maybe I'll see how it flies here or in Raleigh first?
Quote from: Masked Dude on January 07, 2014, 09:25:08 AM
We don't have In-n-Out spots here, but my local Starbucks have a public board. (Well, the big one does.) I could make a littke flyer, 2- or 4-up, with info. Not sure how I feel about it, but it's doable.
I don't frequent the place, so maybe I'll see how it flies here or in Raleigh first?
There are no In-n-Out spots here in Boston, either, but I'll stand in Harvard Square and pass out flyers dressed in a
dhoti,
kirta, and
chadar, with my Dudeist pendant around my neck. And I'll leave flyers in every Starbucks and local bar that I can. Maybe I'll even bring my
kartals, too, and will chant some Dudely Names while I am at it. I'm the Swami, so that's what you call me! ;D
Quote from: meekon5 on January 07, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
This is something I wrote (adapted from one of my favourite Zen stories) a few years back and still stand by it:
Quote from: meekon5
A Dude fills his house with oat soda and burgers from In-N-Out.
He sits out front with the door open.
If a reactionary,
Or a nihilist,
Should walk past and not notice,
What the fuck,
The Dude doesn't bother them.
But should a stranger pass and notice,
And approach the Dude,
He invites him in for a beverage,
And perhaps something to eat.
That is how Dudeism is passed on.
IMHDO
Right on, man. Is that some kind of Eastern thing?
Sounds exhausting
yo rev Icon dude. If you really are intent on going evangelical and all may I suggest keeping it simple....Post-It Notes and a fine felt tip pen.
We can even help you write them.
Write something like:
"The Dude Abides at Dudeism.com"
"Get Ordained at Dudeism .com"
or something along those lines.
I'm sure you can think up a few more....maybe other dudes here can suggest a line or two?
And pace yourself, you've got the entire rest of eternity ahead of you!
Nothing turns people off faster than seeing the same advertisement at every turn, on every pole. Make it more mysterious. A single simple note here, one over there. Take them back down after a day. Post in different places. It should be unusual to see the note.
Make a few business cards printed on your computer... Go to a bowling alley, couple stores, and what have yous and drop one in random place. Real random is floor of high volume walking traffic areas and drinking fountain. Put one in candy isle and liquor isle and what have you.
How about...
Dudeism, the slowest growing religion on earth.
Abide with us at Dudeism.com.
Dudeism, the religion of slacking.
Take it easy with us at Dudeism.com.
Is your world getting OVER THE LINE?!
Put the piece away at Dudeism.com.
Looking to abide with other dudes?
Join our beach community at Dudeism.com!
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on January 07, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
Dudeism, the religion of slacking.
Take it easy with us at Dudeism.com.
Good stuff, good stuff.
Have any of ya'll ever heard of the Church of the SubGenius?
Hmmm...like I already wrote, I am also a member of the Church of the SubGenius.
The reason that I ask, is that the Church of the SubGenius already promotes the pursuit of Slack (spelled with a capital "S" in SubG parlance).
Using that particular word (even if we spell it with a small "s") might piss "Bob" and his Sacred Scribe (Rev. Stang) off. But maybe not.
http://subgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Slack (http://subgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Slack)
Anyway, we're working on it (flyering, etc). You know, the royal "we". More to come.
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
yo rev Icon dude. If you really are intent on going evangelical and all may I suggest keeping it simple....Post-It Notes and a fine felt tip pen.
We can even help you write them.
Write something like:
"The Dude Abides at Dudeism.com"
"Get Ordained at Dudeism .com"
or something along those lines.
I'm sure you can think up a few more....maybe other dudes here can suggest a line or two?
Wow, cckeiser. So now I rate as a bona-fide dude (with no quotation marks)? Thanks, man.
Can I have a hug, dude? (Swami extends his arms and offers cckeiser a hug).
Let me explain something to you: I am not "the Rev. Icon dude". I'm the Swami. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Swahmaness, or uh, the Swahmster, or The Reverend Swami Iconocclesiastes if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Here's another idea: what if I were to go to the "Hare Krishna Tree" in Tompkins Square Park, NYC, in full Swami garb and with some other Dudeists, and begin a Dudeist kirtan under said tree?
http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/ (http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/)
This would have to wait until next spring, as it's far too cold out to do so anytime soon. We'd have to come up with a Dudeist mantra; somebody suggested to me that we can all simply chant "Take it easy and abide" in a call-and-response fashion. Who's with me??
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
Here's another idea: what if I were to go to the "Hare Krishna Tree" in Tompkins Square Park, NYC, in full Swami garb and with some other Dudeists, and begin a Dudeist kirtan under said tree?
http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/ (http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/)
This would have to wait until next spring, as it's far too cold out to do so anytime soon. We'd have to come up with a Dudeist mantra; somebody suggested to me that we can all simply chant "Take it easy and abide" in a call-and-response fashion. Who's with me??
Damn! I forgot the quotes!
I guess you're growing on my Swami ;D
As for your mantra....Meekon5 had an idea a while back:
http://dudeism.com/smf/wedding-ceremonies/we-should-develop-a-ceremony-for-april-20-(420)-and-make-it-a-dudeist-holiday/msg37734/#msg37734 (http://dudeism.com/smf/wedding-ceremonies/we-should-develop-a-ceremony-for-april-20-(420)-and-make-it-a-dudeist-holiday/msg37734/#msg37734)
Quote from: meekon5 on April 16, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
It should be intoned like it's a serious reply for best effect.
Like it's a serious Catholic thing, or like Gregorian Chant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0).
In fact you could use it like a Buddhist chant as well (just sit crossed legged and repeat it continually).
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
all done nasal style like Nam(u) My?h? Renge Ky? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY5X6-pjpzs).
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
Here's another idea: what if I were to go to the "Hare Krishna Tree" in Tompkins Square Park, NYC, in full Swami garb and with some other Dudeists, and begin a Dudeist kirtan under said tree?
http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/ (http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/08/27/the-hare-krishna-tree/)
This would have to wait until next spring, as it's far too cold out to do so anytime soon. We'd have to come up with a Dudeist mantra; somebody suggested to me that we can all simply chant "Take it easy and abide" in a call-and-response fashion. Who's with me??
Damn! I forgot the quotes!
I guess you're growing on my Swami ;D
As for your mantra....Meekon5 had an idea a while back:
http://dudeism.com/smf/wedding-ceremonies/we-should-develop-a-ceremony-for-april-20-(420)-and-make-it-a-dudeist-holiday/msg37734/#msg37734 (http://dudeism.com/smf/wedding-ceremonies/we-should-develop-a-ceremony-for-april-20-(420)-and-make-it-a-dudeist-holiday/msg37734/#msg37734)
Quote from: meekon5 on April 16, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
It should be intoned like it's a serious reply for best effect.
Like it's a serious Catholic thing, or like Gregorian Chant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0).
In fact you could use it like a Buddhist chant as well (just sit crossed legged and repeat it continually).
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
"Shut the fuck up Donny!"
all done nasal style like Nam(u) My?h? Renge Ky? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY5X6-pjpzs).
Got a hug for me, cckeiser?
((Swami)) 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
Sorry to hear it, man. Lung cancer; what a bummer.
How old are you, man? Me, I'll be forty in a few weeks.
I'm 67....68 in July.
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
You can make J brownies. Or you could make J butter and use it in Scooby Snacks. Am I wrong?
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 07, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
You can make J brownies. Or you could make J butter and use it in Scooby Snacks. Am I wrong?
Yeah, and I wish I had it while going through chemo, but I live in Pennsyltucky and the Fascist Gov Corbit will not allow even medical marijuana as long as he is governor....which we all hope will not be much longer.
But eating it and toking it is just not the same....I would eat it as medicine, but I really want to toke it for fun. Alas....no can do. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 07, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
You can make J brownies. Or you could make J butter and use it in Scooby Snacks. Am I wrong?
Yeah, and I wish I had it while going through chemo, but I live in Pennsyltucky and the Fascist Gov Corbit will not allow even medical marijuana as long as he is governor....which we all hope will not be much longer.
But eating it and toking it is just not the same....I would eat it as medicine, but I really want to toke it for fun. Alas....no can do. 8)
Curios if you could tolerate vaping? There is some J e-juice you could possibly get shipped.
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 07, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
((Swami)) 8)
Dude, have you got a jay that we can burn, man? The Swami is jayless.
Sorry Swami.
I am a survivor of lung cancer....over 2 years now. I am 100% for the total legalization of marijuana... but it's too late for me. I can not smoke anything.
But I shall abide. 8)
You can make J brownies. Or you could make J butter and use it in Scooby Snacks. Am I wrong?
Good idea, man.
Say, cckeiser: I live near Boston, man. Want to hang out sometime? Or talk on the phone, or Skype? I'll give you my number if you want. I dig your style. I dig all of you guy's styles.
Vaping, now that's the way to go. I can make a damn good vaporizer out of a light bulb, a drinking straw, and some duct tape.
I'll tell you what....when it becomes legal...I'll risk a toke with you dudes!
Abide dudes.....abide. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on January 07, 2014, 09:03:03 PM
I'll tell you what....when it becomes legal...I'll risk a toke with you dudes!
Abide dudes.....abide. 8)
Want to hang out over some Caucasians one day then, man?
Quote from: Rev. Iconocclesiastes on January 07, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Vaping, now that's the way to go. I can make a damn good vaporizer out of a light bulb, a drinking straw, and some duct tape.
Whoa, slow down, take it easy... You can get great ecig/personal vaporizers at http://www.thehouseofvapor.com/mobile/default.aspx (http://www.thehouseofvapor.com/mobile/default.aspx)
The J e-juice would have to be ordered from CO
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 07, 2014, 09:10:34 PM
The J e-juice would have to be ordered from CO
How, and from where?
I don't know exactly... Heard there some sold out of CO Colorado.
Quote from: Rev. Shagbeard on January 07, 2014, 10:24:52 PM
I don't know exactly... Heard there some sold out of CO Colorado.
Google it. Should be easy now that it is legal there.