So I was wondering what some of the newer dudes (or anyone I would add) think it is to be a Dudeist? You are a dude or Dudeist because?
'Cuz I want to enjoy life.
I'm a go with the flow type personality, who strives for moments of calm in the midst of chaos. I bend sometimes, and go against the stream when needs be, but generally spend most of my time abiding and doing things I enjoy without getting too worked up. That is why Dudeism appeals to me.
I will fire out my little quote again. Dude or Dude not. There is no should.
I think I've said before.
I am as I am.
Dudeism is just an easy label to use for other people who need a label to hang on me.
Perhaps being a dude means...
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Good thoughts here, dudes!
What?... What makes a dude, Mr. Lebowski? Is it knowing when to say fuck it, whatever the cost?
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on November 12, 2013, 09:55:33 PM
So I was wondering what some of the newer dudes (or anyone I would add) think it is to be a Dudeist? You are a dude or Dudeist because?
"...Dudes first of all exist, encounter themselves, surge up in the world, and define themselves afterwards." - Sartre(ish)
Ron
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on November 12, 2013, 09:55:33 PM
So I was wondering what some of the newer dudes (or anyone I would add) think it is to be a Dudeist? You are a dude or Dudeist because?
Because I've never embraced any sort of spirituality in the past, but I think most religions are emperor's new clothes, trumped-up egotistical horseshit and often used as an excuse by many to be obnoxious, judgmental, discriminatory and sometimes even violent. Also, I think it's kind of douchie for a middle-aged white guy to suddenly embrace an eastern religion like Taoism out of nowhere. Also, I'm not interested in any of the religious trappings of Taoism and I think Dudeism is the perfect blend of semi-serious philosophy and a thumb in the eye of mainstream religion. Also, I like the movie. Also, I'm a cynical, pessimistic crank and I'm starting to realize I need some form of positive influence in my life. Also, I like this message board.
This kind of works on all of those levels, and I can probably think of a few more...
For me......
Its being true to yourself and your nature. Everyone has a dude-like personality in themselves. It may not be like the one we see as or believe to be "the dude's personality". I think its very personal and individual matter. We all know what it is like to be "the dude" in our own individual (and original) way and in our own world. I would say it is the most easiest and natural form of existence. Just being out there and living. The natural and pathless path. There are no norms. No signboards to point you in the right direction. Heck, there isn't a right direction. But there is freedom and a sense of calm and serene satisfaction that comes along.
And anyone who follows that path is a dude in my opinion.
cheers to all...
Dudeism is just a word, another one of the ten thousand things, just another label as pointed out earlier.
Labels are bullshit, but you know that, so if you know that, and I know that, why are we here?
Because, well, you have to do something, don't you?
Quote from: revgms on February 24, 2014, 07:56:08 AM
... so if you know that, and I know that, why are we here?
Oh, you know, the usual. Bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback. 8)
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on February 24, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: revgms on February 24, 2014, 07:56:08 AM
... so if you know that, and I know that, why are we here?
Oh, you know, the usual. Bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback. 8)
What day was here?
Quote from: meekon5 on February 24, 2014, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on February 24, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: revgms on February 24, 2014, 07:56:08 AM
... so if you know that, and I know that, why are we here?
Oh, you know, the usual. Bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback. 8)
What day was here?
Is this, what day is this? 8)
I've got a pair of testicles.
And some of my work has been described as strongly vaginal.
If that's any help.
10 post. 8)
I would vote, alot of rum, some serious inner peace and maybe a burger or 3
A fellow Dudeist compeer and brother shamus, with whom I often share a few oat sodas and a pipe of peace, feels that my personal brand of militant Dudeism goes a little against the grain.
Put simply, he is apparently content in the knowledge that he is an ordained Dudeist priest and feels no obligation to pursue the matter any further. Beyond letting me know when I go over the line. On the other hand, I am fully convinced that this movement of ours goes beyond the mere novelty that some people seem to take it for, and am fully prepared to proselytise when and where appropriate. Am I being un-dude when I do that?
Is it possible that there might one day be a sectarian schism within the church? I sure hope not, I mean, look how that's been working out in Northern Ireland and the Middle East.
I've been waiting for Northern Ireland to breakaway from the Middle East for some time now. The great potato/chickpea schism is just too far a gap to bridge.
More to your point, the best conversion I've been able to achieve, even in the modest task which I've been assigned, is to convert people from saying "what the fuck are you talking about" to "well, at least you're not bent on global hegemony or running Sally Struthers commercials at 2am. Good on ya."
There are two types of Dudeist, lifestyle Dudeists and engaged Dudeists. Lifestyle Dudeists live the life Lebowski, engaged Dudeists promote the Dude ethos. One is not better or more Dude that the other, just two different outward expressions of the Dude that dwells within.
This was something I was working on for Lebowski 101, but now seems like a good time to post it at TLM.
http://thelimbermind.com/a-tale-of-two-dudes/ (http://thelimbermind.com/a-tale-of-two-dudes/)
Also, my friend says to me, "yeah but I can't stand organized religion!" So I says, "not to worry, Dudeism is the disorganized "religion".
For myself I think everyone has some of the dude inside. What makes you a dude is to accept and embrace it possibly even flaunt it whereas others hide or are embarrassed by it as society teaches it's wrong. I feel the best way to spread the religion is to do what most religions seem to have forgotten. Just be a dude and those that get it may join those that don't probably never will. Talk is cheap spout whatever you want it means nothing. Be an example of dudism and that leaves a lasting impression. That's my opinion but I may just be rambling in an acid flashback.
Quote from: revgms on March 23, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
There are two types of Dudeist, lifestyle Dudeists and engaged Dudeists. Lifestyle Dudeists live the life Lebowski, engaged Dudeists promote the Dude ethos. One is not better or more Dude that the other, just two different outward expressions of the Dude that dwells within.
I would add a third, the "Lebowskiists" who confuse the quoting of the film with the actual being a Dudeist thing.
Rev Klaus (my very good friend) is very much a "happy with being ordained and just getting on with his life" type Dudeist. I don't see any contradiction as a Dudeist living like that.
;D
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
I would add a third, the "Lebowskiists" who confuse the quoting of the film with the actual being a Dudeist thing.
Oh, man, I would never confuse or conflate those two strands.
But sometimes a good juicy quote can really tie shit together.
I'm taking the middle path here.
Quote from: jgiffin on March 23, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
I've been waiting for Northern Ireland to breakaway from the Middle East for some time now. The great potato/chickpea schism is just too far a gap to bridge.
That sounds awesome, but I just ate. Can I take a raincheck?
Hmmmm...I spent time in NI when I was in the military...bad times dudes...bad times!
I know you're being flippant but I spent time in the Middle East too. Some bad times...then good times.
There is a NI connection with the Mid East... (well Libya) ... where Ghaddafi suppied PIRA with arms...this caused me many tactical landings and long shifts on guard duty in many shitty and cold places.
Maybe think before you post Jgiffin dude. I lost buddies face down in the mud because of that shit. And you have managed to trivialise it.
Maybe you need to spend 5 years checking your car for IED's and looking behind you every 2 minutes in case you are being followed. Maybe you need to experience a tactical landing (flying into an airfield at speed then dropping down from 10000 feet to landing and stopping in a great hurry). Maybe you need to realise that NI is not all about potatoes and shamrocks.
I'm pretty sure you didn't think about what you said. But I'd like you to maybe do so now.
Peace.
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: revgms on March 23, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
There are two types of Dudeist, lifestyle Dudeists and engaged Dudeists. Lifestyle Dudeists live the life Lebowski, engaged Dudeists promote the Dude ethos. One is not better or more Dude that the other, just two different outward expressions of the Dude that dwells within.
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I would add a third, the "Lebowskiists" who confuse the quoting of the film with the actual being a Dudeist thing.
Rev Klaus (my very good friend) is very much a "happy with being ordained and just getting on with his life" type Dudeist. I don't see any contradiction as a Dudeist living like that.
;D
Yeah, I don't really count Lebowskisits as Dudeists, I tell people all the time we are not a fanboyclub, hell I haven't even seen all of Jeff's or the Coen Bro's movies, I suck as a fanboy.
I do however see one more delineation, philosophical Dudeists v ceremonial Dudeists, but that is a discussion for another day.
Quote from: revgms on March 24, 2014, 08:22:44 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
Quote from: revgms on March 23, 2014, 01:31:30 PM
There are two types of Dudeist, lifestyle Dudeists and engaged Dudeists. Lifestyle Dudeists live the life Lebowski, engaged Dudeists promote the Dude ethos. One is not better or more Dude that the other, just two different outward expressions of the Dude that dwells within.
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I would add a third, the "Lebowskiists" who confuse the quoting of the film with the actual being a Dudeist thing.
Rev Klaus (my very good friend) is very much a "happy with being ordained and just getting on with his life" type Dudeist. I don't see any contradiction as a Dudeist living like that.
;D
Yeah, I don't really count Lebowskisits as Dudeists, I tell people all the time we are not a fanboyclub, hell I haven't even seen all of Jeff's or the Coen Bro's movies, I suck as a fanboy.
I do however see one more delineation, philosophical Dudeists v ceremonial Dudeists, but that is a discussion for another day.
I always tend to see them as lay people who are on the right path just haven't managed to travel far enough up it yet.
Like lay Buddhists compared to zen Buddhist monks kind of thing.
You may be wrong this time but you may have better luck next life time.
Shit, man.
I realy didn't mean to stir up a whole can of worms here.
Just raising a philosophical question, which might, potentially, help towards tying the metaphorical room together.
I sure hope I didn't upset anyone, bust up their groove or harsh their buzz.
Can't be worried about that shit. Life goes on, man.
Quote from: Stumblin Stumbleweed on March 24, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Shit, man.
I realy didn't mean to stir up a whole can of worms here.
Just raising a philosophical question, which might, potentially, help towards tying the metaphorical room together.
I sure hope I didn't upset anyone, bust up their groove or harsh their buzz.
Can't be worried about that shit. Life goes on, man.
No problem dude. I'll stick with my answer....10 posts. 8)
Quote from: Caesar dude on March 24, 2014, 01:08:17 AM
Hmmmm...I spent time in NI when I was in the military...bad times dudes...bad times!
I know you're being flippant but I spent time in the Middle East too. Some bad times...then good times.
There is a NI connection with the Mid East... (well Libya) ... where Ghaddafi suppied PIRA with arms...this caused me many tactical landings and long shifts on guard duty in many shitty and cold places.
Maybe think before you post Jgiffin dude. I lost buddies face down in the mud because of that shit. And you have managed to trivialise it.
Maybe you need to spend 5 years checking your car for IED's and looking behind you every 2 minutes in case you are being followed. Maybe you need to experience a tactical landing (flying into an airfield at speed then dropping down from 10000 feet to landing and stopping in a great hurry). Maybe you need to realise that NI is not all about potatoes and shamrocks.
I'm pretty sure you didn't think about what you said. But I'd like you to maybe do so now.
Peace.
Ceasar Dude, you had it right with the "flippant" thing. My intent was just to play off the distance between the two areas and juxtapose the regions' starches of choice - nothing about substantive conflicts. No physical (or other) harm intended. The post I referenced, which used NI and the MI as examples, didn't link the two in any way and I didn't mean to, either. Hell, I didn't even know there was a link. And, as you imply, Libya is a MI country on some levels but quite apart from the MI, too, in many respects.
Anyway, man, I could have thought and thought until my thinker was thunk out and not anticipated that post would offend someone or cause them angst. Since it did, though, I'm sorry. It sounds like you know where I'm coming from so hopefully that's enough. But, to be fair, I'm going to make a lot more bad jokes, non-omniscient posts, and motley mistakes in the future. If anyone else gets offended, I hope they let me know, too. I don't mind offending people, but only when I mean to. This wasn't that.
- Also, Stumblin, no worries, man. The substance of my response to your post was in the second part. That's not what caused concern on the part of Caesar Dude.
Nah man....you're cool...
I was just in a bad place ... I generally am when I see daft shit about about those places.
No harm no foul.
Peace dude.
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
Rev Klaus (my very good friend) is very much a "happy with being ordained and just getting on with his life" type Dudeist. I don't see any contradiction as a Dudeist living like that.
I consider myself a Dudeist, but I fucking. hate. proselytizing. of. any. kind. I fucking hate it. I've lost friends very dramatically who want to suddenly discuss the state of my eternal soul. Fuck off with that. If someone were to ask, I would discuss Dudeism with them, but fuck off if there's some sort of expectation on me to convert anyone.
We all like to discuss and dissect the meaning and symbolism of every little detail in the movie, but how about one big, overriding theme that pretty much governs the relationship between The Dude and Walter? How about the fact that they seem to be polar opposites on politics, personal aggression, and greed, yet they never try to convert one another and instead coexist as equals and friends?
Why can't Dudeism strive to be the first religion in the history of the world that doesn't pressure its followers to actively recruit others and win over hearts and minds?
I always kind of saw it as Donny and Walter establish the spectrum and he Dude walks the middle way within that spectrum. Not too hot not too cold, not too aggressive, not too fearful.
As one of the more outspoken proponents of Engaged Dudeism, I am certain I don't mean to intend that that means proselytizing, sermonizing or converting, all that is..well, a western thang. My model for Engaged Dudeism is based on the work of the Zen Peacemakers and Jeff Bridges, Engaged Buddhists, not evangelicals or Mormons or something like that. In that I mean for us to use our Dude-ness to have a positive influence on the world at large, not to convert the world at large.
Quote from: revgms on March 26, 2014, 07:38:16 AM
I always kind of saw it as Donny and Walter establish the spectrum and he Dude walks the middle way within that spectrum. Not too hot not too cold, not too aggressive, not too fearful.
As one of the more outspoken proponents of Engaged Dudeism, I am certain I don't mean to intend that that means proselytizing, sermonizing or converting, all that is..well, a western thang. My model for Engaged Dudeism is based on the work of the Zen Peacemakers and Jeff Bridges, Engaged Buddhists, not evangelicals or Mormons or something like that. In that I mean for us to use our Dude-ness to have a positive influence on the world at large, not to convert the world at large.
Heck, yes 8)
What does it take? <Looks inside mind> ... <Looks again> ... It's in there somewhere let me take another look
Quote from: Dudeist_MD on April 17, 2014, 11:48:43 PM
What does it take? <Looks inside mind> ... <Looks again> ... It's in there somewhere let me take another look
Welcome DMD dude to our beach party and dudely gathering. Nice to have you here. Grab a place on the rug and abide, mang.
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on April 18, 2014, 12:00:51 AM
Quote from: Dudeist_MD on April 17, 2014, 11:48:43 PM
What does it take? <Looks inside mind> ... <Looks again> ... It's in there somewhere let me take another look
Welcome DMD dude to our beach party and dudely gathering. Nice to have you here. Grab a place on the rug and abide, mang.
Thanks dude
I wonder if what was meant, was what qualifies a dude? Are there criteria? Like the questioning titles of books by another dude (Do you abide and Am I a dude), are there a list of dudely virtues eg, Acceptance, Benevolence, Integrity, Discipline and Empathy? (I know, A.B.I.D.E), though a good dude and thurrah, wouldn't need to ask this of themselves, they would just be. I guess reaching that point, would be like dudevana, or such stage of personal dudevolution. Maybe this should be a topic for another thread, maybe the DHAM?
Quote from: Brother D on January 10, 2016, 06:16:42 AM
I wonder if what was meant, was what qualifies a dude? Are there criteria? Like the questioning titles of books by another dude (Do you abide and Am I a dude), are there a list of dudely virtues eg, Acceptance, Benevolence, Integrity, Discipline and Empathy? (I know, A.B.I.D.E), though a good dude and thurrah, wouldn't need to ask this of themselves, they would just be. I guess reaching that point, would be like dudevana, or such stage of personal dudevolution. Maybe this should be a topic for another thread, maybe the DHAM?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm that and a set of testicles.
Mind if I do a jay sir?
Not at all, dude, Thai stick's over there. I just thought it was odd that there are blank sections like the DHAM.
I guess there could be a distinction between a dude and a great dude, like a virtuous nature, or a great humanitarian for instance. Most, are quite content to be happy with the life we have, with what we've got and who we are, doing what we will and harming none. Doing good deeds and having a positive attitude, while keeping said life tied together, makes a dude in my book.
Some are on an eternal quest for dudeness, while others have it thrust upon them. Generally finding a good balance and striving to be centred is a start I guess, all IMO.
I believe in the case of being a Dude it's more a letting go.
Finding your Dude.
No more quests or roads.
Just Abide.
And roll some frames, have an oat soda and beyond hoping you make the playoffs not worrying about shit.
Life goes on.
Fuck it.
That's the Dudes answer to everything.
Wise words bikerdude, the effort used in "becoming" rather than "being" can be exhausting. I do feel a degree of self inquiry can be a good thing, but can also make thinking uptight. Ah the duality; walking the path and knowing the path.
A dude knows the path they walk, knows where they're at is always there, man, taking it easy and abiding.
Quote from: Brother D on January 11, 2016, 01:41:21 PM
Wise words bikerdude, the effort used in "becoming" rather than "being" can be exhausting. I do feel a degree of self inquiry can be a good thing, but can also make thinking uptight. Ah the duality; walking the path and knowing the path.
A dude knows the path they walk, knows where they're at is always there, man, taking it easy and abiding.
The Buddhist Dudes say you gotta kill the Buddha.
We just say "Is that some kind of eastern thing"?
Rock on.