What ever happened to the good old America from my childhood man? The one where we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning, sing songs like 'deck the halls with gasoline' with our friends at recess, ride our bikes around town wherever we wanted to go as long as we were home by dark, and all of that other fun innocent stuff that kids nowadays are being told is wrong :'(
When did it become OK for our government to try and rule absolutely every aspect of our lives.
Now I don't care what party he is or what race he is but when it comes to his politics I do care.
This man and his administration have crossed the line man, they are trying to destroy the America I love, the America that I grew up in man, the America that I am proud to call my home!
While our economy is in the dumps he's wasting millions of our dollars on stupid vacations for his family,
he's letting our soldiers and citizens be killed,
he's selling guns to terrorists and mexican drug runners while trying to take guns away from honest citizens,
honest citizens which he's then secretly spying on and constantly lying to,
threatening the media and govt employees if they expose, criticize or oppose him,
forcing us to adopt his socialist healthcare but exempting him and his buddies from it,
having the IRS target and scrutinize his opponents while sneaking his brothers organization through tax exemption status,
allowing the IRS to waste millions of dollars on unnecessary conferences while hard working families struggle to pay their bills,
and countless other atrocities that i'm just too lazy to name man.
I'm well aware of the fact that all of our presidents have been involved in scandals and have done questionable if not just outright illegal and immoral things during their times in office but this man tops them all! This man has not only crossed the line but he pissed on our rug while doing it!!! This aggression will not stand man!!!
Sorry dudes, just had to vent and get it all out, I think this is the right forum for that.
Tough job - being a president.
Don't worry, Dude, W left the White House about five years ago.
It's all a matter of perspective, dudes!
:)
Quote from: purple_drank on June 08, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
I'm well aware of the fact that all of our presidents have been involved in scandals and have done questionable if not just outright illegal and immoral things during their times in office but this man tops them all! This man has not only crossed the line but he pissed on our rug while doing it!!! This aggression will not stand man!!!
Sorry dudes, just had to vent and get it all out, I think this is the right forum for that.
Quote from: purple_drank on June 08, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
What ever happened to the good old America from my childhood man? The one where we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning, sing songs like 'deck the halls with gasoline' with our friends at recess, ride our bikes around town wherever we wanted to go as long as we were home by dark, and all of that other fun innocent stuff that kids nowadays are being told is wrong :'(
When did it become OK for our government to try and rule absolutely every aspect of our lives.
Now I don't care what party he is or what race he is but when it comes to his politics I do care.
This man and his administration have crossed the line man, they are trying to destroy the America I love, the America that I grew up in man, the America that I am proud to call my home!
While our economy is in the dumps he's wasting millions of our dollars on stupid vacations for his family,
he's letting our soldiers and citizens be killed,
he's selling guns to terrorists and mexican drug runners while trying to take guns away from honest citizens,
honest citizens which he's then secretly spying on and constantly lying to,
threatening the media and govt employees if they expose, criticize or oppose him,
forcing us to adopt his socialist healthcare but exempting him and his buddies from it,
having the IRS target and scrutinize his opponents while sneaking his brothers organization through tax exemption status,
allowing the IRS to waste millions of dollars on unnecessary conferences while hard working families struggle to pay their bills,
and countless other atrocities that i'm just too lazy to name man.
I'm well aware of the fact that all of our presidents have been involved in scandals and have done questionable if not just outright illegal and immoral things during their times in office but this man tops them all! This man has not only crossed the line but he pissed on our rug while doing it!!! This aggression will not stand man!!!
Sorry dudes, just had to vent and get it all out, I think this is the right forum for that.
Fuckin' eh, we are sympathizing here, dude. America, man; what the hell happened?!
Yeah, I just get all Waltered up when I think or hear about The Kenyan (even his gma said that's where he's from) and what he's doing to our country man :(
I feel soo bad that the newer generations will never know the true greatness that our proud country once stood for.
This is technically only about one part of the big issue at hand, but here's a link to an awesome youtube video of Rep Trey Gowdy from SC; his comments about it being a character and moral problem can be applied to all of The Kenyans administration, not just the IRS.
This man deserves a standing ovation, he really sums it up quite well and you can actually see him choking back the tears when he's speaking.
http://youtu.be/5dFpam0IMbc (http://youtu.be/5dFpam0IMbc)
Not sure what the whole racial origins thing has to do about anything. Unless you're pure blood Native American, everyone else comes from outside in quite recent history - so what? For my money you're well over the racist line PD.
If you're talking about the part where I said "Now I don't care what party he is or what race he is but when it comes to his politics I do care."
It's because I've heard many people try and say that "if you don't like and support Obama it's just because you're a racist", and i'm certainly no racist.
If you're talking about the part about him being from Kenya or me calling him "The Kenyan"
It's because he's not a natural born citizen, therefore he's not eligible to even run for president, not anything against Kenyans personally :)
Not really sure which one you're referring to so I just responded both possiblities lol 8)
What has happened to the forum that I love?
Don't think I'll be making any more posts.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on June 10, 2013, 05:14:28 PM
What has happened to the forum that I love?
Don't think I'll be making any more posts.
Nothing is fucked here, dude, nothing is fucked. If you want a great forum, which this is, you will it dude, and it is no dream. It's funny how negative thoughts are something we bring to reality ourselves. That's just like my opinion, man.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how you think I'm a racist, you are very funny my good dude. I merely had a rant to get off of my chest and as such posted it in the "over the line" thread because I'm pretty sure it's the correct thread for these kinds of posts, forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong. I had an issue that was bothering me; I vented my informed opinion and frustration to get the stress off of my chest and even mentioned that fact at the end of my original post. 8)
I later responded to the replies of other dudes in an agreeable manner then mentioned and posted the link to a video about Rep Gowdy's heartfelt speech about how he and others had to furlough people and stuff due to budget cutbacks all the while the IRS was wasting millions of dollars on conferences, Bono paintings and $3,500 a night suites. A truly touching speech man, I think it will appeal to everybody regardless of political beliefs and/or affiliations :)
After that you called me a racist; in fact you said that I "crossed the racist line". While I couldn't quite figure out how you got that impression from anything that I said, I did try to explain the two theories I had as to why you would say such a vile and reprehensible thing about me. Instead of answering me and helping me to understand what you meant and where you were coming from you simply wrote off the forums as if it was their fault that you and I had a minor misunderstanding/disagreement. :(
I did all this without the use of swearing or name calling (minus the Kenyan bit, but that is a correct description of him dude) or harshly insulting anybody. I believe I accomplished this in a pretty dudely fashion (maybe I came off a little Walter-ish but hey nobody's perfect man). However this was nothing more than my informed opinion being expressed to get the weight of its stress off of my chest, maybe your opinion differs from mine, maybe you like Obama, that's fine man. You're more than welcome to your opinion, as am I. Although getting all huffy about it and insulting me doesn't seem very dude-like in my humble opinion man. :)
Whats sad is that you have to add the caveat that you're not racist because you don't like someone these days; ridiculous. ~Ramone Wolfe
Subtlefist dude, welcome to our humble beach community of dudes. Good to have you here. Bars' over there, grab an oat soda and abide, mang!
Calling him "The Kenyan" was inappropriate. You're drawing attention to his ethnic "otherness." Definitely over the line.
Say what you will about Obama (especially given the new shit which has come to light regarding surveillance), but I find it odd that so many people seem to hate him with such a fervor. I suspect it has something to do with the greater spread of info via Facebook and other Internet outlets (also the comments sections of certain news sites). How is it that the people who are up in arms over drone strikes aren't particularly incensed that we were lured into a phantasmagoric war under false pretenses by the military industrial complex, led by George W? He should be tried in the Hague. And the Patriot act set all this snooping stuff in motion! I don't think anything Obama has done even comes close to that infraction. Just my opinion, man. Although this NSA stuff has me reassessing that opinion for sure.
I'm hoping "The Kenyan" was a reference to country, not race. There are some people who believe, or at least suspect, that Obama was born outside of US Territory (possibly Kenya), which is certainly an opinion they have a right to. If the reference is to a country, in this case, Kenya, I'm OK with it. It would be like calling Obama "The Canadian" or "The Australian" if it was believed that he came from one of those countries. No harm there I would say, BUT, if it was a racial slur, yup, has no place in Dudeism IMHO. A person of any so-called "race" can be a dude. Actually, I don't believe in "races;" there is only one race, the human race. Skin color has nothing to do with it. We are all human.
I can appreciate your response and I do apologize for my un-dudely referencing of Obama's birthplace, I do, however stand by the fact that he should not be president since he's not a natural born citizen.
Yes, I do hate him man, but like I said it's because of his policies and actions, the stuff he's doing is going to destroy our America (soon kids won't have squirt guns and nerf guns anymore).
And as I said I know that ALL the presidents have done illegal and immoral things, it just seems to me like Obama has done more of it than all of the previous presidents combined (I know that isn't exactly accurate but I think you get my drift dude), but that's just like my opinion man 8).
The Patriot Act is definitely shit man I totally agree :), and Bush never should have gone through with it! But Obama extended it instead of letting it expire (not the entire thing mind you but a good majority of it had to be extended or it would have been gone for good) then to top it off he broadened the definition of 'terrorist activity' to include non-terrorist political activities (basically so he can legally fuck with his opposition, as we've seen him doing a lot lately).
Yes DB I only called him "The Kenyan" to refer to the fact that he was born in Kenya and not America (I just today read an article about this Josh Darville guy who wanted to prove his birth certificate was legit and ended up proving it was forged using Adobe Illustrator, it's now supposed to be going before the GA Supreme Court)
I don't care about race, I have friends of all races and personally wouldn't care if somebody was a purple spotted lizard man as long as he was a cool dude, but if he was a dick I would say he was a dick but that certainly would not mean all purple spotted lizard people were dicks lol :)
@Purple Dank. That's ok mate. Clear as mud now! You hate. Goodbye.
As someone who's not 100% cracker and who has been called a racist because of a disagreement, I hope the race question here dies fast.
Quote from: forumdude on June 11, 2013, 09:37:21 PM
Calling him "The Kenyan" was inappropriate. You're drawing attention to his ethnic "otherness." Definitely over the line.
Say what you will about Obama (especially given the new shit which has come to light regarding surveillance), but I find it odd that so many people seem to hate him with such a fervor. I suspect it has something to do with the greater spread of info via Facebook and other Internet outlets (also the comments sections of certain news sites). How is it that the people who are up in arms over drone strikes aren't particularly incensed that we were lured into a phantasmagoric war under false pretenses by the military industrial complex, led by George W? He should be tried in the Hague. And the Patriot act set all this snooping stuff in motion! I don't think anything Obama has done even comes close to that infraction. Just my opinion, man. Although this NSA stuff has me reassessing that opinion for sure.
So much truth in this statement! I had to interrupt my fine good times to do war because of Bush and Blair and the blatant lies!
I've never hated anyone in my life even them two.
Just - well...
Vagina.
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 11, 2013, 11:12:54 PM
@Purple Dank. That's ok mate. Clear as mud now! You hate. Goodbye.
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 11, 2013, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: forumdude on June 11, 2013, 09:37:21 PM
Calling him "The Kenyan" was inappropriate. You're drawing attention to his ethnic "otherness." Definitely over the line.
Say what you will about Obama (especially given the new shit which has come to light regarding surveillance), but I find it odd that so many people seem to hate him with such a fervor. I suspect it has something to do with the greater spread of info via Facebook and other Internet outlets (also the comments sections of certain news sites). How is it that the people who are up in arms over drone strikes aren't particularly incensed that we were lured into a phantasmagoric war under false pretenses by the military industrial complex, led by George W? He should be tried in the Hague. And the Patriot act set all this snooping stuff in motion! I don't think anything Obama has done even comes close to that infraction. Just my opinion, man. Although this NSA stuff has me reassessing that opinion for sure.
So much truth in this statement! I had to interrupt my fine good times to do war because of Bush and Blair and the blatant lies!
I've never hated anyone in my life even them two.
To Caesar Dude:
For somebody who says they've never hated anybody in their life you sure seem like you've got a whole lot of anger and hatred in you, at least from what I can tell by some of your other posts in the forums man, it's all good though, it's perfectly natural to have such feelings. We all do duder, it's just all about how we deal with those feelings man. :)
It seems to me that you just immediately blew me off because I happen to hate somebody (and am able to give intelligible reasons for my personal feelings towards him) but perhaps I merely misunderstood what you were getting at.
I've given you no reason to be ill mannered towards me and I have done my best to explain any & all misunderstandings that may have arose, but it's all good my man. We shall abide 8)
I expressed my opinion and you expressed your opinion, we both got some sort of burden off of our chests and are more than likely calmer and better off for it now. :)
I happily welcome everybody to share their opinions, it's a free country man (at least for now), I will respect your opinions as I can only hope you will respect mine as well. :)
Though I'm woefully afraid that nobody seems to have gotten the real point of what I was trying to say, maybe I'm just not good at trying to explain things or whatever, lol 8)
Anyways, that's all I really have to say on the subject (especially since I ended up saying way more than I ever intended to lol). I bid you a good day & all that follow my fellow dude 8)
Well I'm off to jiu-jitsu :) Have a dudely day everybody 8)
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Anger is not the same as hate or hatred.
Perhaps you're confused? Here, have a read.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-anger-and-vs-hate/ (http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-anger-and-vs-hate/)
I'll say it again. I've never hated anyone in my life!
I don't even hate you but I do despise your views.
i think that most of the problems on the forum come down to an inexact use of words and phrases. this can be exacerbated by people writing in a way that is meant to be humorous but actually get the wrong point across. I think that purple drank doesn't realize that what he wrote comes across for some of us as rabidly partisan and unfairly hateful towards a politician who is probably no worse than his predecessors or contemporaries. Of course purpley is entitled to his opinion. It was the same with Caesar and others in the past - making a heartfelt plea and hoping it would resonate with others when it in fact drives them away.
Maybe as a general rule we should remember that this forum is still a bunch of relative strangers and we should err on the side of caution and politeness and try to keep the emotions and sarcasm (e.g. "The Kenyan") to a minimum.
Fair enough, Fair enough.
You sir, are certainly correct about anger and hate being different and I concede to your point.
As for the rest of it, it appears we have differing opinions and that's cool man, that's cool :)
Peace, or Truce, or whatever man; I'm not trying to be against you personally and truly meant no sort of disrespect to you man.
If I have offended you, which I presume I have, then I apologize for it my good dude 8)
I must say you do have me curious with the "I do despise your views" comment though.
I only want to preserve the greatness of the America I grew up in and that I love :)
In the spirit of understanding may I humbly ask you what your views on just a few of these subjects are?
Not to pass judgement or anything like that man, just pure curiosity and to understand, ya know :)
If not that's cool dude, I fully understand that some people aren't comfortable talking about such matters while others may be perfectly ok with it.
I would like to believe there's a place somewhere in the middle where people of differing opinions can have a peaceful and civilized discussion about such topics and perhaps we could prove that it's possible :)
At the very least I think I have proven that I can hold an intelligent conversation without resorting to petty or childish antics, which are all to often the downfall of good conversation in this day and age 8)
Subjects such as:
a) The IRS spending millions on unnecessary conferences while others are being furloughed or having their pay held back?
b) Obama and his family spending millions of taxpayers dollars on all these overly lavish vacations and trips?
c) The Umbrella Incident (I have Marine friends/family who were very offended by that)?
d) The N.D.A.A.'s authorization of indefinite detention without trial?
e) Fast & Furious (Failed gun tracking program)?
f) Spying on nearly every US citizen?
g) Patriot Act Extension?
h) Obamacare?
i) Benghazi?
If you would rather discuss it via PM I'm open to that as well, if not, well fuck it man I still wish you a dudely day today and all those that follow :)
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Thank you forumdude, I will try and keep my posts more 'directly to the point' or whatever and polite man :)
sincerely no disrespect intended to any dudes 8)
No problem, purpledrank. Happy to have you here and very much appreciate your conciliatory tone. Communication can be difficult and sometimes we portray ourselves in unintended ways via the tropes and styles we write with. You've clearly shown that "no harm intended" is your attitude, even if it may have rubbed some of us the wrong way.
Maybe we should make politics off limits here? Especially in this day and age it's virtually impossible to discuss politics without raising hackles and bringing out undudeness.
My feeling about discussing politics is that 1) it's so complicated that virtually everyone is right and wrong about the same topic, depending on how you look at it (not EVERY topic, but a lot of them - e.g. is Obamacare an infringement on liberty or is it a pragmatic solution to a spiraling problem?) and 2) most political discussion is a form of soothsaying - basically asking the question "do the ends justify the means?" and since we don't ever know the ends before they happen, we're all making haphazard guesses based on what we know of history and what ideological principles we buy into.
And since we're not discussing art or music, but things that effect the bottom line of our every day lives, it's natural that our provisional hypothesis will be much more deeply felt and worried about. But think about all the hoo hahs and kerfuffles that have happened in the last 50 years and how many of them turned out to be red herrings (or not?). It's so goddamn complicated and our brains can't deal with such complexities. That's why people turn to political parties or religions - to give them a system of thought to buy into.
Hopefully Dudeism will help people recognize our mental shortcomings and not be so idealistic and sure of ourselves, that we can raise skepticism to a more noble art. That's my hope anyway.
Right on Forumdude :)
Great way to wrap it all up man, I like the way you think 8)
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hey purpledrank, did you make that dude jitsu design? i posted it at our fb page. far out!
Quote from: forumdude on June 13, 2013, 04:25:07 AM
hey purpledrank, did you make that dude jitsu design? i posted it at our fb page. far out!
Yeah man, I saw that on there and sent the larger version I made to your email on facebook but it may have gone to the "other" folder.
I also just posted the direct link to it in the comments for all the other people who were asking for it 8)
It's pretty cool that my humble little piece of artwork is appreciated by so many dudes :)
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Check out the video, pretty funny and inneresting. Don't know that I have the necessary cojones for this but maybe some in here do. My hat's off to ya!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement)
Quote from: LotsaBadKarma on June 13, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
Check out the video, pretty funny and inneresting. Don't know that I have the necessary cojones for this but maybe some in here do. My hat's off to ya!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement)
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I don't know if you dudes have ever heard of Mike Malloy. He is an Ultra-Liberal about as far left as it's possible to go without falling off the edge of the planet type radio commentator. When the O-man was running in '08 he was on fire about the right and all the bullshit they were pulling during the campaign. Therefore, about a year or so ago I was surprised to hear him, Mike Malloy, say that in his opinion the O-man was a war criminal and should be tried as such.
I'm not sure about the whole "birther" thing. I haven't researched it enough to have a solid opinion and I don't like to argue politics when I don't think I have enough info to back up what I'm saying. So I'm staying out of that fight. I neither negate nor support any position with regard to whether he was born in the USA.
The way I see the political scene here, though, is that he is just the latest in a long line of puppets intent on taking down the middle class financially. I actually think that this started back in the days of LBJ and our ramped up involvement in Nam. It's a classic case of redistribution of wealth from the middle class up to the rich. Like Lenin said, "you look for the person who will benefit and.....uh, uh". So who benefited? The people Eisenhower referred to as the military/industrial complex, that's who. The point is to concentrate the wealth at the top of the ladder and bring the rest of us into subservience. The rest is all theatre! Just keep watching the shiny object, then you'll be too busy to see what's really going on.
When I think back to the 50s and 60s, which is what I think of when I think of the good old days, we didn't rely on the system of justice to sort out all our shit. If one were to be sufficiently aggrieved by the conduct of another one simply went and punched the other in the mouth. No delays for discovery or decisions to overturn on appeal. We just got 'er done. Now almost everyone is afforded protection by the law for just about anything they do, particularly our DC people. Martha Stewart gets 2 years for insider trading but the boys and girls in DC wrote that law in such a way as to exempt themselves. A regular worker has to toil 20 years for a pension but a DC rep only has to serve a single 2 year term and he/she's got it locked. Then they bitch about people who do a 20 and out and start talking "pension reform is the only thing that will save us".
There's a story I heard about people who come into the system vowing change. They get shown footage of something like the Kennedy thing or the Wellstone thing, like what really happened. Then they are asked very simply if they have any questions about their agenda.
I guess what my point is is that the game is rigged dudes. It's just becoming more visible. The press, for the most part, is just the propaganda arm of the "G", they put out what they are told and they keep us watching the shiny object. And the shiny object is whatever keeps us from seeing the truth. It's a sound byte. The sad thing is that we, as a nation, have fallen for it. I think we're fucked.
Quote from: LotsaBadKarma on June 13, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
Check out the video, pretty funny and inneresting. Don't know that I have the necessary cojones for this but maybe some in here do. My hat's off to ya!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ba0cc80eec/nsa-wiretapping-public-service-announcement)
Hahahaha "that there's funny" lol
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Out of respect for Forumdudes request I'm not going to discuss politics anymore because he's right man, everybody is going to see, MOST, issues differently and even an attempt at discussing it in a civilized manner generally leads to somebody getting offended or rubbed the wrong way and then the petty and childish antics begin :( and nobody wants that right 8)
I will however, most certainly agree with you about how people just run to the law or big brother nowadays instead of being able to handle a situation for themselves, but perhaps some people just went to far or something. And government employees of any kind, no matter title, position or affiliation, should not get a salary and all these benefits AFTER they're job is over, your job is over so go back to work like everyone else; except you know REASONABLE pensions or retirement or whatnot, those are cool man, you gotta earn those after a long period of loyal and very exhausting work lol :)
And yes man, the media definitely is a big part of the problem too. I could be wrong here but I believe that if the mass media didn't exploit all of these tragedies then they probably wouldn't happen nearly as often.
They're just like giving all the sad, angry, depressed, confused people, and the just plain psychotic ones too, ideas of what to do man. They're probably just like sitting there man, sitting there with all these undudely things just totally messing with their mind right, then they see all the attention that these people get from the mass media with their horrific acts. They want that attention right, attention feels good man, and if they can hurt "the people who 'wronged' them" in the process; well dang man, they just take that idea and run with it, they might just copy somebody else or come up with some new variation or something. Now I'll grant you that in some cases these people may have been likely to commit some other sort of horrible crime anyways but who really knows. Then again "Some people just want to watch the world burn" so I guess, really, bad shits going to happen no matter what we do :(
I'm not saying that these atrocities don't deserve media recognition, I just believe that if the mass media did it a little less "in your face" or what have you and with a little more respect, that such tragedies wouldn't happen quite so often. Hell though, maybe they'd just happen more then but we just wouldn't know it, who knows right, it's all just speculation man.
As for me, I shall Take it easy and Abide 8)
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