Smuggled sperm
Palestinians born 'from prisoners' smuggled sperm
He was born in Nablus's al-Arabia hospital in August last year. Within a few hours he looked more comfortable, snoozing in the arms of his mother Dallal. The father though was absent. Ammar Ziben is serving 32 life sentences in an Israeli prison for his involvement in bomb attacks in Jerusalem in 1997.
Well yes, what did you think this was all about? Fun and games? - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21658940 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21658940)
...Look, Ammar, I don't want a partner. In fact I don't want the father to be someone I have to see socially, or who'll have any interest in rearing the child himself.
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All arabs are automatically guilty of hating Israel and of being muslims.
The best thing would be to get rid of the lot of them. We could call it 'the final solution' or something catchy like that.
Just in case there was any doubt I thought I'd better add that the above is intended ironically.
Some people say that Americans don't get irony but then Alanis wrote a whole song about it a while ago and to anyone ouside the States, Canadians are just Americans with snow-shoes. However most of the things in her song - "like ray-ey-ain on you weddin day", weren't ironic, just a pain in the ass. And that of course is highly ironic.
As for my real feelings - love and peace to arabs and israelis - not that that has much to do with the original post.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on March 15, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
All arabs are automatically guilty of hating Israel and of being muslims.
The best thing would be to get rid of the lot of them. We could call it 'the final solution' or something catchy like that.
Just in case there was any doubt I thought I'd better add that the above is intended ironically.
Some people say that Americans don't get irony but then Alanis wrote a whole song about it a while ago and to anyone ouside the States, Canadians are just Americans with snow-shoes. However most of the things in her song - "like ray-ey-ain on you weddin day", weren't ironic, just a pain in the ass. And that of course is highly ironic.
As for my real feelings - love and peace to arabs and israelis - not that that has much to do with the original post.
"All arabs are automatically guilty of hating Israel and of being muslims."That's just like your opinion, man. I doubt that very many people believe that "all arabs are automatically guilty of hating Israel and of being muslims." 8)
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Quote from: DigitalBuddha on March 18, 2013, 09:55:56 AMI doubt that very many people believe that "all arabs are automatically guilty of hating Israel and of being muslims." 8)
I live in a rural mountain community in which the economy is primarily based upon energy extraction and agriculture, so there are many of that sort about. They're generally nice folks who are always ready to lend a hand when it's needed, but dumb as sun dried shit. They just don't have it in 'em to experience cognitive dissonance. I actually like most of them just fine, and we get along well because I either steer the conversation away from politics and/or religion or just nod and say uh-huh while seeking an exit. Most of them don't know that this freaky longhair disagrees with almost everything they stand for -- it's important to them that everyone think as they do and it's not a fight I'm inclined to take up because I can think my own thoughts just fine already.
When the locals are at the height of their inflamed self righteous passion, they cannot speak of the president without using his middle name because to them Hussein means Muslim and Muslim means hate-filled terrorist bomber. Most still believe that the guy is ineligible to be president because he was born outside of the US, and the fact that his mother was a citizen so even if he was born on the moon he's a citizen by birthright means nothing to them. (No, I am not defending the guy. I think he's every bit as evil as his predecessor.) They believe that there really is a "terrorist threat", and that The Troops are literally defending their freedom and way of life. They don't understand the term American Exceptionalism, and take it to mean that the US is just measurably better than everyone else. They believe that libruls hate America, non-whites are genetically inferior (so it's not their fault), that freedom of religion means we have to put up with Jews but not anyone else and especially not atheists (who are really all devil worshipers but won't admit it), and hydraulic fracturing is perfectly safe and those folks claiming their wells are contaminated by it are just looking for a free ride on the backs of hard working American oil companies. The locals believe that "weapons of mass destruction" were found in Iraq, that the Taliban fully supported bin Laden, "Arab Spring" was originally about yearning for good old American democracy, and whatever other nonsense Fox News tells them. A hot selling item at the drug store in town was icons of flag draped crosses.
My wife can't go more than about a week without remarking that Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
QuoteCanadians are just Americans with snow-shoes.
Being a Canadian, I disagree: we're also differentiated by our better manners, and we don't carry handguns everywhere! ;-)
Quote from: Hominid on March 18, 2013, 08:56:15 PM
Being a Canadian, I disagree: we're also differentiated by our better manners, and we don't carry handguns everywhere! ;-)
Oh shut up and go back to your poutine, Canuckistani! ;D
See what I mean about the manners? ;)
Quote from: Hominid on March 18, 2013, 10:03:11 PM
See what I mean about the manners? ;)
Boy, what a sensitive lot you are up there in Northern Mexico! ;D
It's that kind of shit made me dump my Canadian girlfriend. Which leads naturally to the question I've never got around to asking: Do pubescent virgin Canadian males fabricate tales of their nymphomaniacal American girlfriends?
I wouldn't know, I've yet to meet a Canadian pubescent that is virgin... we score pretty early up here. ;)
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 12:57:05 AM
I wouldn't know, I've yet to meet a Canadian pubescent that is virgin... we score pretty early up here. ;)
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Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 12:57:05 AM
I wouldn't know, I've yet to meet a Canadian pubescent that is virgin... we score pretty early up here. ;)
Uh, Dude, I've got and have had Canuck clients in my internet applications development business, so I know better. Try again! ;D
Wow dude, that must be some interesting software you develop, giving you first hand knowledge of your client's private sexual habits! Any "back doors"? ;)
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Wow dude, that must be some interesting software you develop, giving you first hand knowledge of your client's private sexual habits! Any "back doors"? ;)
You mean coitus? :o ;D
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Wow dude, that must be some interesting software you develop, giving you first hand knowledge of your client's private sexual habits!
If they were private I wouldn't know about them. :o I have a strong sense of propriety and professional ethics so I don't go snooping around in other people's shit -- but there are those who just hang it all out on public display, and because of my job I've seen things I'd never have gone looking for otherwise and would just as soon have never seen at all. It's enlightened me on just how broad the range of "normal" really is. I don't judge, really, but some shit just makes ya wonder What The Fuck.
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 09:08:59 AM
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Wow dude, that must be some interesting software you develop, giving you first hand knowledge of your client's private sexual habits!
If they were private I wouldn't know about them. :o I have a strong sense of propriety and professional ethics so I don't go snooping around in other people's shit -- but there are those who just hang it all out on public display, and because of my job I've seen things I'd never have gone looking for otherwise and would just as soon have never seen at all. It's enlightened me on just how broad the range of "normal" really is. I don't judge, really, but some shit just makes ya wonder What The Fuck.
Ya, "normal" seems to have gone out the window. At least when it comes to social decorum and professionalism. We all have our versions of "normal", so we stick to others of the same ilk. Interesting stuff.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 10:13:45 AM
Ya, "normal" seems to have gone out the window. At least when it comes to social decorum and professionalism.
I'm kinda guilty of that. When I jettisoned a client up yonder in Winnipeg, the guy went totally nuts. He seesawed around between threatening me and begging me to reconsider. It was strange. Anyway, he just wouldn't take no for an answer as long as I was being nice... so I flatly told him to "go blow a goat". In response, he derided me for my lack of professionalism. Imagine a pornographer, of all people, deriding me for saying "go blow a goat". ;D
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 10:13:45 AM
Ya, "normal" seems to have gone out the window. At least when it comes to social decorum and professionalism.
I'm kinda guilty of that. When I jettisoned a client up yonder in Winnipeg, the guy went totally nuts. He seesawed around between threatening me and begging me to reconsider. It was strange. Anyway, he just wouldn't take no for an answer as long as I was being nice... so I flatly told him to "go blow a goat". In response, he derided me for my lack of professionalism. Imagine a pornographer, of all people, deriding me for saying "go blow a goat". ;D
I used to run our company's email, firewall, and proxy servers, so I'd see everyone's surfing habits. You wouldn't believe the outrageous sites people would visit from their cubies. I would post the top ten on the cafeteria's bulletin board. Didn't stop them till each one was challenged individually, some were even fired. Legal cases resulted... real ugly. People are stupid sometimes.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 12:47:37 PMYou wouldn't believe the outrageous sites people would visit from their cubies.
Yeah, actually, I would.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 12:47:37 PMPeople are stupid sometimes.
And it's a surprising number of them, too, and many who have no excuse for not knowing better.
As glad as I am to have got rid of that pornographer whose product is on the far side of outrageous because it means I never have to see that shit again, I'm even more glad that I don't have occasion to interact with his user registration data any more. I'm just fine with people being into weird shit, but it's the damnable stupidity of putting not just jobs but entire careers at risk to indulge that need that really bugs me.
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 02:50:40 PM
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 12:47:37 PMYou wouldn't believe the outrageous sites people would visit from their cubies.
Yeah, actually, I would.
You want to hear what's bad? I used to do volunteer IT work for a local daycare and their all-female employees would visit some truly fucked up porn sites while on the job. About half involved schoolgirl porn. That's just... damn.
Fuck me dude, that's really fucked in the head. I think every "job" location's proxy server should have a disclaimer stating that all surfing is monitored. You know, Terms of Use and all that. Porn's bad enough - but we had a dude trying to hack our competition from the office! Nmap, the whole nine yards!
Quote from: Masked Dude on March 19, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
I used to do volunteer IT work for a local daycare and their all-female employees would visit some truly fucked up porn sites while on the job.
I figure that if you want to maintain respect for a person you should never, under any circumstances, look at his or her browsing history. Not because everyone has something in there that you don't want to know about, but because enough do. I've been told, and it seems reasonable enough though I have no way of knowing, that the porn a person looks at is very rarely indicative of the sexual activities the person engages in, or would even consider engaging in.
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Masked Dude on March 19, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
I used to do volunteer IT work for a local daycare and their all-female employees would visit some truly fucked up porn sites while on the job.
I figure that if you want to maintain respect for a person you should never, under any circumstances, look at his or her browsing history. Not because everyone has something in there that you don't want to know about, but because enough do. I've been told, and it seems reasonable enough though I have no way of knowing, that the porn a person looks at is very rarely indicative of the sexual activities the person engages in, or would even consider engaging in.
Me, I just like boobies! Think Al Bundy from "Love & Marriage". ;)
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Masked Dude on March 19, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
I used to do volunteer IT work for a local daycare and their all-female employees would visit some truly fucked up porn sites while on the job.
I figure that if you want to maintain respect for a person you should never, under any circumstances, look at his or her browsing history.
Actually, that was part of my job. Clear things out, see if they're doing any non-work browsing, etc. So if I hadn't, I wouldn't have been able to use that as work history. I didn't tell the director whose computers had what on them, since I agree that what you browse isn't a direct reflection on you. However, as we all know, in the business world, you should be working, not doing fun work. Save the fun stuff for elsewhere. :)
On the up side, I only did that sort of work for a very limited time. It was boring, so I went back to repair and teaching back then.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 07:12:01 PM
Me, I just like boobies! Think Al Bundy from "Love & Marriage". ;)
If I could sing, I'd release my song "I Like Titties" for all the world to hear. :)
An interesting debate is whether workplaces should not only block porn sites, but Facebook, work searches, dating sites, etc. Privacy laws can be weird depending on what side of the fence you're on.
Courtesy of Joe Walsh, who almost succeeded in unfucking the Eagles, ILBT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i903v5UvcK4). For your listening and viewing pleasure.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 09:31:26 PM
An interesting debate is whether workplaces should not only block porn sites, but Facebook, work searches, dating sites, etc. Privacy laws can be weird depending on what side of the fence you're on.
I figure that it's legit to block porn and other sites that might give offense to one's cow-orkers, known malware hosts, and other such things as might cost the company serious money. Other than that, those are real live thinking, feeling human beings out there in those soul destroying cubicles, or, worse, open office plans. Treat 'em right and they'll do good work, go all fascist on them and they'll go all Office Space on you. (They'll work just enough to avoid getting fired, and when they're pissed off they'll do exactly as they're told even when they know it's somewhere between suboptimal and completely fucking wrong.)
My own squid3 installation has as its only purpose the blocking of sites known to the good folks of malwarepatrol.net (http://www.malwarepatrol.net/) to be distributing malware. And the squid3 logs are completely disabled because trust and loyalty are two way streets.
Quote from: RighteousDude on March 19, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 09:31:26 PM
An interesting debate is whether workplaces should not only block porn sites, but Facebook, work searches, dating sites, etc. Privacy laws can be weird depending on what side of the fence you're on.
I figure that it's legit to block porn and other sites that might give offense to one's cow-orkers, known malware hosts, and other such things as might cost the company serious money. Other than that, those are real live thinking, feeling human beings out there in those soul destroying cubicles, or, worse, open office plans. Treat 'em right and they'll do good work, go all fascist on them and they'll go all Office Space on you. (They'll work just enough to avoid getting fired, and when they're pissed off they'll do exactly as they're told even when they know it's somewhere between suboptimal and completely fucking wrong.)
My own squid3 installation has as its only purpose the blocking of sites known to the good folks of malwarepatrol.net (http://www.malwarepatrol.net/) to be distributing malware. And the squid3 logs are completely disabled because trust and loyalty are two way streets.
You make a very good point; it is indeed a two way street, and for the most part we're all trustworthy. It's always a small minority that fuck it up for the rest of us. Being in that position of responsibility (i.e. deciding on blowing the whistle or not) is sure a tightrope. Thankfully we had a well defined corporate policy, part of being hired was agreeing to it. Not too fascist; it was a good balance.
Then, well, every so often us IT guys would just say fuck it and spend the afternoon on a patio drinking beers with cute waitresses in short skirts with no underwear. (Them, not us - really!) My special lady picked me up from work drunk on a Friday afternoon more than once. And that's with my manager... made it all worth it.
Quote from: Hominid on March 19, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
Then, well, every so often us IT guys would just say fuck it and spend the afternoon on a patio drinking beers with cute waitresses in short skirts with no underwear. (Them, not us - really!) My special lady picked me up from work drunk on a Friday afternoon more than once. And that's with my manager... made it all worth it.
It's important to keep in mind what truly matters, I think. 8) Once upon a time when I was pretending to be a field engineer I worked for an outfit where most Fridays we'd shut the office down early and go for margaritas on the company's tab. The regional manager kept old AmEx cards from departed employees to pay with, and gave up the name of some random client contact to the corporate office on the East Coast so they could cheat on their taxes claiming it as a business meeting. I always thought it would be more honorable to put it on the regional manager's own card and not do the tax cheat thing at all, but who am I to turn down a beverage or five?
I almost hated to leave that place, but the CEO promised me a really fat (25%) raise, then flew his fascist ass across the country to explain to me why he was reneging. I cannot abide a liar, so I went to work for a competitor and so got an even fatter (40%) raise. The new outfit wouldn't permit liquor on the company tab, though. I guess it was a Muslim thing. I thought it strange that they'd buy hookers and blow (literally) for the executives of client companies who'd rig the competitive bidding process but wouldn't buy me a drink now and then. I've been living amongst humans since 1961 and I ain't got the screwy bastards figured yet.
QuoteI've been living amongst humans since 1961 and I ain't got the screwy bastards figured yet.
Me, 1955. Fuck it all, let's go bowling. (Which I'm terrible at BTW). I think we cope with it all by just labeling it all as "foibles". We cope the best way we can. White wine works for me. Well...... till Monday rolls around.
Quote from: Hominid on March 20, 2013, 01:26:26 AM
Me, 1955. Fuck it all, let's go bowling. (Which I'm terrible at BTW).
I've got too many years of tickling keyboards behind me -- bowling wrecks my wrists. But if some chick in a short skirt with no damned undies wants to bring a parade of drinks while I hang around watching other people throwing rocks, I'm all for it!
Quote from: Hominid on March 20, 2013, 01:26:26 AM
I think we cope with it all by just labeling it all as "foibles".
Foibles... a euphemism for some degree of insanity, right? ;D
Quote from: Hominid on March 20, 2013, 01:26:26 AM
White wine works for me. Well...... till Monday rolls around.
You switch to red on Monday?
First, the important stuff. Any reason to spend time with ladies in short skirts with no undies is always legit. :)
When I had a few employees I told them as long as they did their work they could view any site they wanted or smoke anything. I didn't allow torrents but that was never a problem. If they went to a client's home or work just don't smell funny. :)
I don't smoke at all and don't view certain things while working. But I've had a few adult beverages while working from home. I guess I should be glad they were bummed when I closed shop.
But yeah respect must go both ways. I agree with that.