Certain things have come to light about the rights of the testicle-wearing community. I mean has it ever occured to you that ex-husbands are running around paying child support based on their 'maximum earning potential'!!! Hard to think of anything more un-dude.
Not that I'm saying things are easy for ex special ladies either. Once they've finished screwing your best friend and 'investing' the child support at Vegas, it's hard for them to work out what to do with all that spare time whilst they rattle around in that big house you paid for.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on January 24, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
Certain things have come to light about the rights of the testicle-wearing community. I mean has it ever occured to you that ex-husbands are running around paying child support based on their 'maximum earning potential'!!! Hard to think of anything more un-dude.
And if you
really want to feel like you've been fucked in the ass (against your will) by a stranger, get married and divorced in a state whose laws are such that if you are married, non-sterile, and cohabiting when the child is conceived, you're the legal father and liable for support even if there's no possible way that the child is carrying your genes and you can prove it's not. Been there, almost did that -- Was married, in Kaliphonia, unhappily, to a woman who was exceedingly generous with her affections. When I discovered that there were rarely vacancies between her knees when I wasn't looking, I stopped partaking of her bounties in order to avoid the obvious risks. She got knocked up, moved out, and told me a few weeks later about the spawn in the chamber. Apparently I was only made privy to that shit because the genetic material donor denied his involvement.
She didn't want that kid any more than she wanted the two she already had, so I paid for the abortion. If I hadn't, I'd have been paying for someone else's kid until about five years ago, maybe longer if it had gone to college. At least at that time, there was no way to escape that liability in the state of Kaliphonia.
Oops, meant to edit, not double-post. This sobriety shit ain't all it's cracked up to be!
I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this fucking strumpet......
My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support. THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws. I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments. Something wrong with that...
Quote from: Hominid on January 24, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support. THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws. I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments. Something wrong with that...
Serial marriage sounds like an interesting career option over there.
Quote from: Hominid on January 24, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support. THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws. I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments. Something wrong with that...
Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Hominid on January 24, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support. THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws. I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments. Something wrong with that...
Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.
Fucking kills me... just isn't right. It's a lot to pay for some company and a little pussy.
Quote from: Hominid on January 25, 2013, 09:46:11 AM
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Hominid on January 24, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support. THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws. I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments. Something wrong with that...
Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.
Fucking kills me... just isn't right. It's a lot to pay for some company and a little pussy.
Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.
You play you pay.
I just wish my state would require mother's to declare or attempt to contact the father of the child for child support before allowing them to apply for state assistance. Naturally, the other part of that would be the need to investigate those that claim they don't know.
I have a former coworker whom actually lives with the father of her child, and she didn't put his name on the birth certificate because it would mean she wouldn't get as much state assistance. Somehow, the state was informed of this, and they said they had no way to investigate because there is no way under state law to force someone to take a paternity test unless the mother asks for it.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 10:25:55 AMquote author=BikerDude link=topic=4247.msg35975#msg35975 date=1359127555]
Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.
You play you pay.
But then there's Righteous Dude's point that someone else plays and you still pay.
The issue of 'fairness' has to be relevant to justice otherwise you have justice which isn't just.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on January 25, 2013, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 10:25:55 AMquote author=BikerDude link=topic=4247.msg35975#msg35975 date=1359127555]
Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.
You play you pay.
But then there's Righteous Dude's point that someone else plays and you still pay.
The issue of 'fairness' has to be relevant to justice otherwise you have justice which isn't just.
Righteous Dude is right on that one.
But provided that it is your kid it is Justice to have to pay.
Is it "fair" that she lied and you ended up with a kid to support?
No.
Is it Just that you should be required to support it.
Yes absolutely.
Walk off a cliff and there is this thing called gravity.
Is it fair. Has nothing to do with it.
Bottom line watch where you put yer Johnson. I was told that from the time I was a boy.
You can fuck up your life big time. Be careful don't mess up.
Besides personally I was raised that you take responsibility for such things and don't whine about it.
Otherwise your a bum.
That's part of having testicles.
It's a very black mark on somebody that knocks a chick up and doesn't take responsibility.
I suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.
QuoteI suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.
Shouldn't be, really. Families are a universal thing, and even men with multiple wives look after their kidlets - it's a pride thing based on our evolutionary requirement to procreate.
Quote from: Hominid on January 25, 2013, 12:39:14 PM
QuoteI suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.
Shouldn't be, really. Families are a universal thing, and even men with multiple wives look after their kidlets - it's a pride thing based on our evolutionary requirement to procreate.
The stigma is likely cultural.
Walking away would be a great shame where I come from.
Apparently not everywhere.
The devil's in the detail here though dudes. Nobody's saying men shouldn't pay.
But should they have to pay for someone else's child as they do in California?
Should they have child support set at their 'maximum earnings potential' when they want a more relaxed lifestyle?
That wouldn't be enforcable within a marriage, why is the bar set higher and biting deeper when you are divorced?
The rules of gravity are fixed by nature but the rules of divorce are fixed by people. If they aren't right we can change them.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on January 25, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
The devil's in the detail here though dudes. Nobody's saying men shouldn't pay.
But should they have to pay for someone else's child as they do in California?
Should they have child support set at their 'maximum earnings potential' when they want a more relaxed lifestyle?
That wouldn't be enforcable within a marriage, why is the bar set higher and biting deeper when you are divorced?
The rules of gravity are fixed by nature but the rules of divorce are fixed by people. If they aren't right we can change them.
Hmmm. There's food for thought.
My advice.
Don't fuck up.
Definitely not always fair. True story: I know a guy named Greg who was happily married. Two kids, 2 and 4, nice little girls. One day the wife just packs up and leaves while he's at work. She made no attempts to tell Greg or her friends she was unhappy.
She doesn't call or write anyone, not her kids, her family, her friends, no one. Greg goes on with life, getting help from his & her parents.
Twelve years later the bitch comes back. She makes no apologies but files for custody for her daughters. The elder girl hates the mother and the younger doesn't really know her. She gets full custody and over three quarters of Greg's pay goes to child support. Now, Greg doesn't get angry over the money, but she gets the kids while he gets one weekend a month if she feels like it?
Now that's some bullshit.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 12:24:23 PM
Bottom line watch where you put yer Johnson. I was told that from the time I was a boy.
Careful ain't enough. The options are abstinence or risk. Just as in everything else in life, really.
I live in an isolated town in the mountains, forty miles or more in every direction from the nearest towns and more than a hundred miles from the nearest shopping mall. A nice, safe, friendly place where you can count on your neighbors if disaster strikes. Some time ago some kind of scientist dudes were doing some kind of science shit at a lake that's considered nearby by local standards, above 10,000 feet in elevation, and found in the water a radioactive isotope whose only known terrestrial source is a factory in China. Specifically, the smokestacks of that factory, as the product of that factory doesn't leave China.
So maybe on the day that particle and some number of like particles fell from the sky, there was a dude up there fishing... A dude who never smoked or even entered a place where smoking was allowed, who never worked in a job where there were respiratory risk factors, who exercised regularly, watched his diet, ate only whole foods and fish and game from this seemingly pristine environment. There are dudes like that around here, too. And maybe he inhaled one or three of those particles that flew here from fucking China, man, and has since died of lung cancer.
Don't we all hear that kind of shit fairly often? Some random person never smoked a cigarette in his life, never lived in a polluted city, et cetera, dies of lung cancer. Some fuckin' guy who was a health nut his whole life dropped dead from a heart attack in his forties. And so on.
Careful ain't enough. The bumper sticker is correct: Shit Happens. It's easy enough to believe you've got this shit wired while it's not happening to you, but the simple truth is that there ain't a one of us who's got this shit wired. The world we live in is interconnected in myriad ways we don't stand a chance of fully or even adequately comprehending.
Way back when it was my shit to worry about I did my homework. Apparently that fucked up law in Kaliphonia is rooted in the decision that it's better to fuck that one guy really, really hard than to fuck the whole of the state just a little bit. Yeah, he and his wife are Asian and the child is black, but, ya know, fuck that guy anyway. Yeah, the guy has rock solid undeniable proof that his wife was fucking the pool man, who is black, but fuck that guy anyway. Yeah, genetic testing proves that he was not involved in conceiving the child, but fuck that guy anyway.
Shit Happens. Careful ain't enough.
Quote from: RighteousDude on January 25, 2013, 03:36:06 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 12:24:23 PM
Bottom line watch where you put yer Johnson. I was told that from the time I was a boy.
Careful ain't enough. The options are abstinence or risk. Just as in everything else in life, really.
I live in an isolated town in the mountains, forty miles or more in every direction from the nearest towns and more than a hundred miles from the nearest shopping mall. A nice, safe, friendly place where you can count on your neighbors if disaster strikes. Some time ago some kind of scientist dudes were doing some kind of science shit at a lake that's considered nearby by local standards, above 10,000 feet in elevation, and found in the water a radioactive isotope whose only known terrestrial source is a factory in China. Specifically, the smokestacks of that factory, as the product of that factory doesn't leave China.
So maybe on the day that particle and some number of like particles fell from the sky, there was a dude up there fishing... A dude who never smoked or even entered a place where smoking was allowed, who never worked in a job where there were respiratory risk factors, who exercised regularly, watched his diet, ate only whole foods and fish and game from this seemingly pristine environment. There are dudes like that around here, too. And maybe he inhaled one or three of those particles that flew here from fucking China, man, and has since died of lung cancer.
Don't we all hear that kind of shit fairly often? Some random person never smoked a cigarette in his life, never lived in a polluted city, et cetera, dies of lung cancer. Some fuckin' guy who was a health nut his whole life dropped dead from a heart attack in his forties. And so on.
Careful ain't enough. The bumper sticker is correct: Shit Happens. It's easy enough to believe you've got this shit wired while it's not happening to you, but the simple truth is that there ain't a one of us who's got this shit wired. The world we live in is interconnected in myriad ways we don't stand a chance of fully or even adequately comprehending.
Way back when it was my shit to worry about I did my homework. Apparently that fucked up law in Kaliphonia is rooted in the decision that it's better to fuck that one guy really, really hard than to fuck the whole of the state just a little bit. Yeah, he and his wife are Asian and the child is black, but, ya know, fuck that guy anyway. Yeah, the guy has rock solid undeniable proof that his wife was fucking the pool man, who is black, but fuck that guy anyway. Yeah, genetic testing proves that he was not involved in conceiving the child, but fuck that guy anyway.
Shit Happens. Careful ain't enough.
I don't know what to say about the cancer and heart attack stuff.
Seems a bit off topic but..
IMHO you really should move.
That crap don't happen here.
I never heard of it.
Quote from: Masked Dude on January 25, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Definitely not always fair. True story: I know a guy named Greg who was happily married. Two kids, 2 and 4, nice little girls. One day the wife just packs up and leaves while he's at work. She made no attempts to tell Greg or her friends she was unhappy.
She doesn't call or write anyone, not her kids, her family, her friends, no one. Greg goes on with life, getting help from his & her parents.
Twelve years later the bitch comes back. She makes no apologies but files for custody for her daughters. The elder girl hates the mother and the younger doesn't really know her. She gets full custody and over three quarters of Greg's pay goes to child support. Now, Greg doesn't get angry over the money, but she gets the kids while he gets one weekend a month if she feels like it?
Now that's some bullshit.
Yeah that is.
How'd she end up getting the kids?
Here's the california BS.
http://www.courts.ca.gov/1202.htm (http://www.courts.ca.gov/1202.htm)
Quote
Cases Where Parentage Is Presumed Because the Parents Were Married
A child born during a marriage is presumed (assumed) to be a child of the marriage, and the husband and wife (or, after January 1, 2005, domestic partners) are the legal parents. This is called a ?conclusive presumption? which means that the presumption (that the child is a child of the married couple) cannot be disproved, even if there is evidence to disprove it. Read Family Code section 7540 for the law about this presumption.
There are very limited exceptions to this rule, and they can be very complicated to figure out. If you are married and have a child that you are not sure is your biological child, talk to a lawyer. A lawyer will be able to help you figure out if you have a legal basis to dispute paternity and, even if you can do it legally, if you should do it based on other considerations. Click for help finding a lawyer.
Seriously I'd move.
She got the kids because of the usual "kids need their mother" excuse. Judge used that, saying they needed to know her. The older one told the court as soon as she and her sister were able to leave the mother they would. She would only use her first name, not "Mom" or anything.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 25, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
IMHO you really should move.
There's no need. I don't live in Kaliphonia, and won't again enter the state. When we lived in Las Vegas, NV and would travel south to Arizona to visit our offspring the shortest route passed through Kaliphonia so we too a longer route. The roads were better on the longer route anyway.
I was born in Kaliphonia, but skedaddled when I was 18 vowing never to live there again... but the economy went to shit so I went back to work in the defense industry while Raygun was spending like mad on Star Wars and his great military build-up. As soon as things got better again I hauled ass. It was during the interim that I became too-well versed in Kaliphonia family law.
It's not the mistakes that you'd never consider making anyway that you have to watch out for. ;)
Hey BD, or anyone else aquainted with the rules of Dwarf 'tossing' - can you elucidate how this intriguing contest works?
In France I've never seen Dwarfs competing in this way. Do they toss themselves off or do they get chicks to do it for them?
An how is the winner decided in this minature tossing off manually contest. Is it first past the post or are we talking distance attained?
If it's a question of distance it would give the taller dwarfs an advantage, which seems unfair as they are then less 'dwarf'.
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Just don't tell the elf, dude ;)
this is more like a proper dudeist sport - MIDGET BOWLING
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