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Speaking of Omaba and his guns; as a matter of fact, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a staunch enemy of the US Constitution and the Second Amendment, and a career GUN GRABBER, HAS A CONCEALED WEAPON"S PERMIT and carries a gun... "she enjoys having a CCW permit for HER OWN PISTOL."
You see, what people DON'T UNDERSTAND is that idiots like Feinstein want YOUR GUNS controlled and taken from you, BUT NOT THEIRS.
Notable Anti-Gun Hypocrites...
Jane Fonda asked why she and Tom Hayden had handguns when they supported gun control, she said, "Gun control? That's for other people, not for us."
Sammy Davis, Jr. - outspoken advocate of gun control, was caught by British police at London's Heathrow Airport trying to smuggle his handgun into England.
Dianne Feinstein as San Francisco mayor, tried to ban handguns in San Francisco, while she was enjoying the protection of both a police bodyguard and her own concealed carry (CCW) handgun permit.
Don Perata - A strong anti-gun advocate, he enjoys having a CCW permit for his own pistol.
NY Times publisher Arthur Sulzburger editorialized against guns but had his own CCW permit.
MARK IT ZERO! - http://www.gs2ac.com/NotableAntiGunHypocrites.html (http://www.gs2ac.com/NotableAntiGunHypocrites.html)
For me the problem is that (like most big issues today) we have 2 equally stupid propositions.
In order for us to not end up with gun control we need to have SOME suggestions from the Gun lobby that sound remotely reasonable. When they suggest that the answer is to arm teachers or have armed guards in Grammar Schools that just is not going to resonate.
I mean on one hand the suggestion is that we radically change the nature of our everyday society so that people are searched entering shopping malls and movie theaters and on the other hand the suggestion that we ban assault weapons. You can guess where the majority of people are going to come down on that.
For the average person banning assault weapons has no direct detrimental effect. And even if it has limited positive effect there is no reasons not to. Most people don't own an AR15.
Personally I do. As well as an SKS and AK along with 10 or so hunting rifles.
What do they do in Israel?
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Guns are so cool.
Every kid should be taught to enjoy them, as young as possible
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as a British I don't get what al the fuss is about really, why does everyone need a gun?
Quote from: banjodude on December 21, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
as a British I don't get what al the fuss is about really, why does everyone need a gun?
They give Americans a sense of freedom and power.
Sorry my post should have said 'British dude' and I'll learn how to spell 'all' as well:-)
but freedom from and power over what?
VAGINA!!!
monkey tennis
It's not freedom.It's paranoia.The freeist country in the world has bogeymen and needs super heroes.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on December 21, 2012, 11:06:34 AM
Guns are so cool.
Every kid should be taught to enjoy them, as young as possible
DAMN RIGHT! I absolutely agree! (http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif)(http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Sgt. Chris Misselt, of the Box Elder Police Department, helps a member of the Box Elder Boy Scouts Troop 28,
learn rifle fundamentals for his rifle shooting merit badge. (Photo by Police Chief Tim Ryan)...
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Mark it TEN! - http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/communities/boxelder/box-elder-police-department-helps-scouts-earn-badges/article_6aba0eb4-1aed-11e1-a2a9-001cc4c03286.html (http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/communities/boxelder/box-elder-police-department-helps-scouts-earn-badges/article_6aba0eb4-1aed-11e1-a2a9-001cc4c03286.html)
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think I may be leaving this discussion,
very undude
Quote from: banjodude on December 22, 2012, 04:51:40 AM
think I may be leaving this discussion,
very undude
Well dude, we just don't know; let's think about that. Can it be said that dudes can disagree and even have some fun competing in the ideas arena and still be dude-like? I would say so. It's just like our opinions, man.
Nothing is fucked here, dude, nothing is fucked. 8) I'm staying, finishing my coffee.
absolutely in agreement, every dude is 100% entitled his own opinion but I can't even get my head around why you would need a gun, never mind to discuss teaching kids how to use them, that's all I'm meaning.
I appreciate it's a constitutional issue as well.
The reason for the guns is that it gives the citizens a way to defend themselves, which os why it was written in. And the reason people teach children about guns is because statistically if a child is familiar with firearms and has been responsibly taught (which does happen more often than reported) they are generally less likely to shoot up schools or random people. The issues come into play when someone with mental illness or the like end up with firearms. This is prohibited by laws. The next problem is either way it goes down criminals will always have guns. At the end of the day, this talk about it all is exhausting. Neither side has it right and never will. They even blame video games and movies for violence here. Never mind the fact that news reports these acts constantly. Just my opinion.
My $0.02 here is that death by guns is sensational news, as opposed to disease, which kills FAR more people. Statistically, gun deaths are very low... outlawing firearms may remove them from law abiding citizens' hands, but criminals will always be able to get them.
Exactly dude. That's pretty much how it works. I mean when Colombine happened there was an "assault weapons" ban then..... Guess what those two actually used? Just saying. I feel that its someone using tragic events to push their agenda. I'm pretty liberal but even I see something wrong when all sides are pulling the same tricks...
Never miss a chance to exploit a tragedy!
Quote from: Stever on December 22, 2012, 03:32:02 PM
Never miss a chance to exploit a tragedy!
Funny you should post that..........(http://gettingoffthebench.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/pigs-at-the-trough.jpg)
If anyone is in the dark as to why all the gun grabbers (among other silly people) are coming out of their sleazy holes lately (AKA Dianne Feinstein and friends), well, it's because it's feeding time at the pig trough,
and Hilary explains the main course..."Never waste a good crisis" - Hillary Clinton - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62igfNu-T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62igfNu-T0)
Quote from: banjodude on December 22, 2012, 06:37:15 AM
absolutely in agreement, every dude is 100% entitled his own opinion but I can't even get my head around why you would need a gun, never mind to discuss teaching kids how to use them, that's all I'm meaning.
I appreciate it's a constitutional issue as well.
OK then.
What I'm afraid of is the future. Technology doesn't stand still. It seems to me at some point in the future any kid will be able to print up a WMD on a 3D printer. Or something that would afford action at a distance - like an iDrone. Don't like your teacher? Send an iDrone to his house (coordinates via google maps) and blow up his house.
And don't get me started on phasers. We've already got tricorders (smart phones). Surely phasers are just around the corner.
;D As far as my need for any weapons in the future is concerned, I got that that problem covered; anyone fucks with me they're in a world of pain! MARK IT ZERO!........
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All kidding aside; as far as being able to manufacture a weapon on a 3D printer is concerned (i.e., out of a type of plastic), no doubt that is not too far off into the future. They can already manufacture guns not made with steel that are hard to detect with standard metal detectors, if at all......
(http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2010/09/hgpolymer_032707c.jpg)
Check out - http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/ (http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/)
This is why we in the USofA need guns...
Quote from: RighteousDude on December 18, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
Armed Task Force To Patrol Streets (http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2012/12/15/top_story/doc50cbbb312e241511092932.txt) fucking with citizens just for being outdoors. Said task force would be in riot gear and carrying AR-15's at all times, stopping everyone they see to perform ID checks and compel the citizen to give a valid reason for being out and about.
Land of the free, home of the brave!
There is always some ashat in government trying to enforce his Nazi agenda!
QuoteWhere the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.
Barnhill, John Basil (1914). "Indictment of Socialism No. 3" (PDF). Barnhill-Tichenor Debate on Socialism. Saint Louis, Missouri: National Rip-Saw Publishing. pp. p. 34. Retrieved on 2008-10-16.
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I really dig the whole FACTS thing,dude!
"A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves"
I apologize in advance of being undudely but my Walter is coming out.
I was on a few other forums (even one I paid for). I've already seen a couple posts about Americans & firearms that didn't sound friendly. On other forums there were insanely long threads about the USA and guns, calling citizens all kinds of names and blaming them for 99-100% of the world's ills. I left those forums and canceled my memberships.
If this turns into another USA-bashing I'm gone for good. I'm proud of both countries of which I'm a citizen and in which I've lived. But I'm a bit sick of every tragedy being used to bash my father's side of my family.
I'm glad we can have opinions and discussions here quietly and nicely. But once again in another thread the same questions are asked and I don't see it ending well.
I'm not angry and I don't expect this to change or stop. Just wanted my $0.02 in.
Ok, going to go dude out for a while.
Quote from: Masked Dude on December 23, 2012, 01:37:42 PM
I apologize in advance of being undudely but my Walter is coming out.
I was on a few other forums (even one I paid for). I've already seen a couple posts about Americans & firearms that didn't sound friendly. On other forums there were insanely long threads about the USA and guns, calling citizens all kinds of names and blaming them for 99-100% of the world's ills. I left those forums and canceled my memberships.
If this turns into another USA-bashing I'm gone for good. I'm proud of both countries of which I'm a citizen and in which I've lived. But I'm a bit sick of every tragedy being used to bash my father's side of my family.
I'm glad we can have opinions and discussions here quietly and nicely. But once again in another thread the same questions are asked and I don't see it ending well.
I'm not angry and I don't expect this to change or stop. Just wanted my $0.02 in.
Ok, going to go dude out for a while.
This is a family restaurant, dude, and your opinions are respected. So I would say that staying and enjoying your coffee would be cool. As for country bashing; not sure I follow your drift. I don't see much country bashing, but I do see lots of opinions, man, about some very important subjects. Dudes here are, by and large, very cool people who have deep feelings about life.
So far, even opinions expressed in strong terms, have been in a dude-like more or less laid back manner. Lots of uncompromised first drafts. Not to mention, though I humbly disagree with some postings, they have been posted in open honesty and by dudes who are informed about what they post, right or wrong.
So dude, my point is that life goes on man. Post your opinions, they are held in value. Everybody deserves their place on the rug. Though personally, I try to stay away from the pee stain. 8)
Abide.
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 22, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
All kidding aside; as far as being able to manufacture a weapon on a 3D printer is concerned (i.e., out of a type of plastic), no doubt that is not too far off into the future. They can already manufacture guns not made with steel that are hard to detect with standard metal detectors, if at all......
(http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2010/09/hgpolymer_032707c.jpg)
Check out - http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/ (http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/)
Please, Please be careful about making such statements. The guns shown have polymer frames, but also have gigantic hunks of metal sitting on top of the polymer frame. Slides, barrels, and internal parts are all metal, and are easily detected by the simplest of metal detectors.
As for the 3D printing, two guys did manage to make an AR-15 lower receiver (the registered part of the gun) in their shop. It only lasted 6 rounds before it broke, but it did fire those 6 rounds. It eventually broke where the receiver extension tube threads into the back of the reciever. It's only a matter of time before they develop a plastic that can be used in these priinters that is strong enough to take the abuse.
Peace Dude :D
Quote from: karmatso on December 23, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 22, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
All kidding aside; as far as being able to manufacture a weapon on a 3D printer is concerned (i.e., out of a type of plastic), no doubt that is not too far off into the future. They can already manufacture guns not made with steel that are hard to detect with standard metal detectors, if at all......
(http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2010/09/hgpolymer_032707c.jpg)
Check out - http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/ (http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/featured_handguns_polysh_032707/)
Please, Please be careful about making such statements. The guns shown have polymer frames, but also have gigantic hunks of metal sitting on top of the polymer frame. Slides, barrels, and internal parts are all metal, and are easily detected by the simplest of metal detectors.
As for the 3D printing, two guys did manage to make an AR-15 lower receiver (the registered part of the gun) in their shop. It only lasted 6 rounds before it broke, but it did fire those 6 rounds. It eventually broke where the receiver extension tube threads into the back of the reciever. It's only a matter of time before they develop a plastic that can be used in these priinters that is strong enough to take the abuse.
Peace Dude :D
Of course, you are correct, Sir, that's true; they have items such as metal springs, that's why I mentioned "they can already manufacture guns not made with steel that are
hard to detect with standard metal detectors;" there is so little metal in them that they may be all but undetectable. My guess is that it won't be long until no metal is used and they will have perhaps carbon fiber parts replacing the metal parts such as springs.
Quote from: Masked Dude on December 23, 2012, 01:37:42 PM
I apologize in advance of being undudely but my Walter is coming out.
I was on a few other forums (even one I paid for). I've already seen a couple posts about Americans & firearms that didn't sound friendly. On other forums there were insanely long threads about the USA and guns, calling citizens all kinds of names and blaming them for 99-100% of the world's ills. I left those forums and canceled my memberships.
If this turns into another USA-bashing I'm gone for good. I'm proud of both countries of which I'm a citizen and in which I've lived. But I'm a bit sick of every tragedy being used to bash my father's side of my family.
I'm glad we can have opinions and discussions here quietly and nicely. But once again in another thread the same questions are asked and I don't see it ending well.
I'm not angry and I don't expect this to change or stop. Just wanted my $0.02 in.
Ok, going to go dude out for a while.
I dont think we have any country bashing here-I hope not!!
I myself am on other forums,too,and this is THE pace to be,mang!
If you want to see anti-american,anti-gun posts,dude,you should see the rants by americans,about america,over on the comments section of a place like CNN....woo-hoo!
Just sayin...
I also worry when we stray into polarized topics like gun control. Whatever anyone's opinion, I just hope that everyone keeps it civil. What may seem like a self-evident truth to one person may seem like the ravings of a goddamn moron to the next.
Most political discussions seem to me attempts to predict the future - will gay marriage destroy the nuclear family? will gun control usher in greater control by the state? will reducing guns reduce murders? will not allowing state funds to pay for nativity scenes result in the decay of morals? will legalizing pot make people content to sit on the couch and not struggle to get rich? will dudeism ever be as popular as the flying spaghetti monster?
None of us know any of these things for certain. The best we can do is calmly investigate the data and make some educated guesses. The only shitty thing is when people stick to their fundamental principles without even entertaining the arguments of others. In that case there is no fruitful discussion. 99 percent of the comments on news articles seem to be just that - fistfights, not philosophy. I'm happy that most of the stuff here is civil and that generally people don't get too hot headed.
I hope this all doesn't sound pedantic or condescending. I'm sure most of you agree. This is a pretty quiet little beach community.
On a personal level; I'm pretty amazed at all of the blathering we have done here and it is still a quiet civil beach community. There are chat boards that would cut their dicks off to have such peace among members who are dealing with subjects that tend to heat up to fucking outright flame wars. You know, the "fuck you asshole, take that shit and shove it, you moron idiot, drop dead!" kind of stuff.
About the only flame war in this family restaurant is who will light up a J the fastest! The worst you see around here is "well, yeah, that's just like your opinion, man."
The only real moderation that needs to be done in this private residence, man, is kicking some goldbricker out for spamming and peeing on the rug (that ties the room together) with some lame shit about discount Puma running shoes we can buy off some lame ass Russian discount shoes website. The fuckin' pendehoes!
Have to say that I am proud of the dudes on the Dudeism Forum; I have also been amazed at a lot of great and honest comments. Very dude-like!
That's just like my opinion, man. 8)
Quote from: cckeiser on December 20, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
What do they do in Israel?
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Who wants to live in Israel?
I'm glad so far that the discussions here have been civil. :) Some of the comments have sort of reminded me of how other places started, that's all. Stever is right, though. Other forums jump straight into jackassery.
For me it was just that I'm not used to having people like dudeists talking online. Of course I won't agree with everyone on everything but I'm glad I don't feel unwelcome. I'm going to grab my self-made rug and stick around this place. Even the ones I don't agree with are still very cool and would love to see more of their posts.
I am happy that no one backed off or apologized (no need anyway). So I'll tell that part of me to go eat a bag of shit and shut up. :)
Thanks, guys!
Quote from: banjodude on December 22, 2012, 06:37:15 AM
absolutely in agreement, every dude is 100% entitled his own opinion but I can't even get my head around why you would need a gun, never mind to discuss teaching kids how to use them, that's all I'm meaning.
I appreciate it's a constitutional issue as well.
So far I haven't NEEDED a gun (other than hunting) but I damn sure enjoy them.
It's a blast (no pun intended) to go out on an afternoon from time to time and set up some water jugs and blast em from several hundred yards.
Plus we have the right to own them. And I like that.
It's an attitude thing. As long as we remember that WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT then the idea of the government taking away our guns or other freedoms remains in perspective.
As it used to say in my sig line "freedom is something that dies unless it's used" -Hunter S Thompson
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 24, 2012, 05:13:37 AM
On a personal level; I'm pretty amazed at all of the blathering we have done here and it is still a quiet civil beach community. There are chat boards that would cut their dicks off to have such peace among members who are dealing with subjects that tend to heat up to fucking outright flame wars. You know, the "fuck you asshole, take that shit and shove it, you moron idiot, drop dead!" kind of stuff.
About the only flame war in this family restaurant is who will light up a J the fastest! The worst you see around here is "well, yeah, that's just like your opinion, man."
The only real moderation that needs to be done in this private residence, man, is kicking some goldbricker out for spamming and peeing on the rug (that ties the room together) with some lame shit about discount Puma running shoes we can buy off some lame ass Russian discount shoes website. The fuckin' pendehoes!
Have to say that I am proud of the dudes on the Dudeism Forum; I have also been amazed at a lot of great and honest comments. Very dude-like!
That's just like my opinion, man. 8)
It's cause we own guns.
I think we can all sit on the rug here,and not resort to randomly calling each other fuck-heads-this is the most civil,intelligent forum I have ever had the pleasure to be a small part of,and I am proud of all of us!
But,dude...you keep posting that pic of the chick in Israel..she is awesome,aint she?
I'm not sure owning guns *makes* us a relatively peaceful beach community; linking cause and effect in that way might be a bit of a stretch, but you may be right there BD... Americans by nature are slightly aggressive so perhaps their behaviour *needs* to be tempered by the fact that the other guy may have a Glock tucked in his belt... As opposed to your neighbours up north (us Canajuns) - known for our politeness - we don't need such potentially threatening things to keep us civil. I may just be blathering here, but that's what we do here, right?
I've been in various on-line communities for literally decades, so I can echo other's comments here about how cool everyone is. It *is* unusual... it has to do with the kind of person Dudeism attracts. It's similar to the kind of professional-minded people photography forums attracts (which I used to attend with regularity). Here, I like the debates; I like the personalities; I like the comradery... and I do prefer it over the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - I have no inkling to dress like a pirate!
Quote from: Hominid on December 24, 2012, 01:05:48 PM
I'm not sure owning guns *makes* us a relatively peaceful beach community; linking cause and effect in that way might be a bit of a stretch, but you may be right there BD... Americans by nature are slightly aggressive so perhaps their behaviour *needs* to be tempered by the fact that the other guy may have a Glock tucked in his belt... As opposed to your neighbours up north (us Canajuns) - known for our politeness - we don't need such potentially threatening things to keep us civil. I may just be blathering here, but that's what we do here, right?
I've been in various on-line communities for literally decades, so I can echo other's comments here about how cool everyone is. It *is* unusual... it has to do with the kind of person Dudeism attracts. It's similar to the kind of professional-minded people photography forums attracts (which I used to attend with regularity). Here, I like the debates; I like the personalities; I like the comradery... and I do prefer it over the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - I have no inkling to dress like a pirate!
I've lived in both the US and Canada.
Overall I didn't find people substantially different but I did find certain differences in attitudes.
Canadians found my concept of no line between the Government and the people to be cool but generally they said that they never thought of it like that. That is to say "What gives the government any right to say that a law abiding citizen can't have a gun?" The law abiding citizen IS the government just as much as the President.
I enjoyed the Canadian attitudes about a lot of things but I did find a LOT of unquestioned conformity.
The development I lived in had very strict rules about a lot of stuff. You could only paint your house with "approved" colors. It was sort of creepy and "stepford wifeish".
I rented but if I owned the place it would have been Tiger Stripe Camo the next week.
Of course I was only joking about the guns.
That wasn't Kanata was it? It had (has?) very tight bylaws on paint colour, fence heights, roof materials... It's not typical "Canadiana"...
Quote from: Masked Dude on December 24, 2012, 11:51:02 AM
So I'll tell that part of me to go eat a bag of shit and shut up. :)
Don't be doing that, man. The world will put well more than enough shit on your plate all by itself. It doesn't need your help.
Sometimes I think Thomas Jefferson should be A Great Dude in History...
"The beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it won't ever be an issue unless a tyrannical government takes it away from the People."
- Thomas Jefferson
Case in point........
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control and from 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control and from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935 and from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Guatemala established gun control in 1964 and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Uganda established gun control in 1970 and from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Cambodia established gun control in 1956 and from 1975 to 1977, one million
educated' people, unable to defend themselves, w ere rounded up and
exterminated.
------------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson
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Armed,and abiding here,dude!
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 27, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Sometimes I think Thomas Jefferson should be A Great Dude in History...
"The beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it won't ever be an issue unless a tyrannical government takes it away from the People."
- Thomas Jefferson
Case in point........
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control and from 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.
------------------------------
In 1911, Turkey established gun control and from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
China established gun control in 1935 and from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Guatemala established gun control in 1964 and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Uganda established gun control in 1970 and from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Cambodia established gun control in 1956 and from 1975 to 1977, one million
educated' people, unable to defend themselves, w ere rounded up and
exterminated.
------------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson
So, any examples of unsuccessful exterminations because people owned guns? For some reason I can't see an individual holed up in a house being able to fend off an entire government with a shotgun. I'm thinking it would take a revolution. Then I look and Siria and think... nah, that ain't working out too peacefully. But maybe I'm uninformed and uneducated (...not a history buff).
Quote from: Hominid on December 27, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on December 27, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Sometimes I think Thomas Jefferson should be A Great Dude in History...
"The beauty of the 2nd Amendment is that it won't ever be an issue unless a tyrannical government takes it away from the People."
- Thomas Jefferson
Case in point........
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control and from 1929 to 1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.
------------------------------
In 1911, Turkey established gun control and from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
China established gun control in 1935 and from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Guatemala established gun control in 1964 and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Uganda established gun control in 1970 and from 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------
Cambodia established gun control in 1956 and from 1975 to 1977, one million
educated' people, unable to defend themselves, w ere rounded up and
exterminated.
------------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson
So, any examples of unsuccessful exterminations because people owned guns? For some reason I can't see an individual holed up in a house being able to fend off an entire government with a shotgun. I'm thinking it would take a revolution. Then I look and Siria and think... nah, that ain't working out too peacefully. But maybe I'm uninformed and uneducated (...not a history buff).
No, you are correct, Mang; "an individual holed up in a house being able to fend off an entire government with a shotgun" would stand little chance of doing so, BUT...
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
...A well regulated militia would have a good chance, if armed, as referenced in the Second Amendment. Although, "A well regulated militia" that has been disarmed would stand no chance either. It takes both.
A dudeist militia.
What would that look like?
Quote from: BikerDude on December 28, 2012, 09:07:15 AM
A dudeist militia.
What would that look like?
What?....what day is this? ???
Quote from: BikerDude on December 28, 2012, 09:07:15 AM
A dudeist militia.
What would that look like?
;D This........
(http://tikimexican.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/big_lebowski_walter_gun.jpg)
And like the Stranger says..........
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/399341_559871674027443_2092695788_n.jpg)