New shit has come to light;
So I was thinking (which is not really what I wanted to do this weekend) that Dudeism needs a mainstream voice; an online magazine of Dudeist thinking, a magazine of "like that's just our opinion, man," a Dudeist perspective on the news, politics, religion, the arts, music, sciences, history, pop culture, social networking and what-have-you.
A sort of "New Yorker magazine of Dudeism." Something like the DudesPaper, but more of a mass appeal used to offer Dudeist thinking on popular topics to the non-Dudeist world, and maybe even the square community, giving them an idea of Dudeism and the world of laid back slacking and general laziness.
Was thinking it could be called.......
DudePoint" or DudePoint.com or something like that.
Any thoughts, dudes? ;)
My first article would be on "Women, Dudeism and Beer," a favorite topic of mine. ;D
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I like it, man. I had a similar idea, but I think yours is probably easier to put into place. And the easier path is often the Duder path.
My idea, for the record, was a Dudeism podcast. Like a "Ask The Dudes" sort of thing - regular hosts, weekly guest dudeists or experts on things.. taking questions about anything, whether advice or opinion or just generally raising a discussion point and kicking it about.
I really like the idea but it sounds like a fair amount of work to get sorted - finding the people, sorting out the recording process, dealing with the frickin' time difference if we want to get anyone overseas involved... it's one of those things I'd really love to do but probably don't have all the necessary know-how to do it right.
So tell me more about your idea, man. How would you look at differentiating it from the Dudespaper?
Quote from: mrpaddy on November 27, 2012, 10:22:48 AM
I like it, man. I had a similar idea, but I think yours is probably easier to put into place. And the easier path is often the Duder path.
My idea, for the record, was a Dudeism podcast. Like a "Ask The Dudes" sort of thing - regular hosts, weekly guest dudeists or experts on things.. taking questions about anything, whether advice or opinion or just generally raising a discussion point and kicking it about.
I really like the idea but it sounds like a fair amount of work to get sorted - finding the people, sorting out the recording process, dealing with the frickin' time difference if we want to get anyone overseas involved... it's one of those things I'd really love to do but probably don't have all the necessary know-how to do it right.
So tell me more about your idea, man. How would you look at differentiating it from the Dudespaper?
Not sure what it would look like, but I was thinking that it would be something like an online magazine version of free open source software (created in the same manner and maybe managed like open source applications are managed); an open source magazine created by all dudes worldwide. Not a Wiki per se', but a popular magazine run by a foundation similar to say Mozilla, but for a web based magazine. It would be run by a non-profit foundation.
And fuckin' eh, man; a podcast would be righteous!
I like it, man. Having it open source would presumably have the potential to get a lot more content on there quicker and with more variation.. a great new Dudeist resource!
Anything I can do to help, let me know!
To be honest I was thinking that maybe the Dudespaper should evolve into a more general interest sort of magazine. Move away from the Lebowski stuff and truly be a "Lifestyle Magazine for the Deeply Casual." So there's be columns on how to relax, simplify your life, easy ways to help feed the monkey, practical consumerism, ideas for activities that are unique and not the same old same old. Basically epicureanism but the original uncompromised first draft.
The website could use a total redesign and we could relegate the current lebowski centric stuff to a section all it's own.
Or do you guys think it would be better to start with something totally fresh?
When in doubt....do both! 8)
Quote from: forumdude on November 30, 2012, 11:00:48 PM
To be honest I was thinking that maybe the Dudespaper should evolve into a more general interest sort of magazine. Move away from the Lebowski stuff and truly be a "Lifestyle Magazine for the Deeply Casual." So there's be columns on how to relax, simplify your life, easy ways to help feed the monkey, practical consumerism, ideas for activities that are unique and not the same old same old. Basically epicureanism but the original uncompromised first draft.
The website could use a total redesign and we could relegate the current lebowski centric stuff to a section all it's own.
Or do you guys think it would be better to start with something totally fresh?
Good concepts there ForumDude. I would go for the "something totally fresh" approach mostly because I think the Dudespaper is cool like it is. The mass appeal concept would be great to see. "Lifestyle Magazine for the Deeply Casual" ...perfect tag line!
Maybe Abide Magazine?
A Lifestyle Magazine for the Deeply Casual is the Dudespaper's tag line (see the logo) but we could always move it to the new site.
There's a bimonthly magazine here called THE CHAP. Something like that would be awesome.
The Culinary Section could be called "A Few Burgers, A Few Beers." ;D
;D ......
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Well yeah.but I think it would really tie the world together if you could buy a hard copy from a station/airport bookstore.THE CHAP comes out every 2 months and isn't all that big but seems to be doing ok. It's all about being the right kind of chap.I read it from time to time.Well hey,I work on the railway so we treat these places as a library.I have often thought that it would be nice to have a dude version.
Quote from: Zen Dog on December 01, 2012, 08:25:42 PM
Well yeah.but I think it would really tie the world together if you could buy a hard copy from a station/airport bookstore.THE CHAP comes out every 2 months and isn't all that big but seems to be doing ok. It's all about being the right kind of chap.I read it from time to time.Well hey,I work on the railway so we treat these places as a library.I have often thought that it would be nice to have a dude version.
Looks like a righteous mag...
http://thechapmagazine.co.uk/ (http://thechapmagazine.co.uk/)
Keep the dudespaper as more of a dudeist and Lebowski centric. I think you still need to be able to appeal to those that are already here. I know for sure I would read the new concept myself in whatever form it may take.
Count me in!
And may I suggest for layouts, etc. if someone can't afford Adobe InDesign, a good FOSS alternative is Scribus. Just look at some tutorials about graphic design and learn grids and you're on your way!
I can dig the idea dudes.
Not likely that we'd do a print version (too much outlay) so InDesign wouldn't be the tool of choice (I have a copy - used to be a print graphic designer - but thanks for the suggestion), probably just do an online version. Interesting idea though. Would be a good way to get the Dudocracy involved - I've been loath to put ads on any Dudeism sites, but a Dudeist general interest magazine could have them, and then people who submit content could earn Google adwords revenue from pages they write that are clicked on.
Gotcha. I was thinking more of PDFs than print. Had that in my head. :)
What an absolutely righteous idea dudes. It'd be a lot of work, but once launched, it's just a matter of filling it with content once a month. (Or 2 - whatever...) I like that tagline already mentioned, and having it as a general interest magazine with a few ads would feed the monkey. Should I mention the unmentionable and suggest it be a men's magazine? For me, some comedy and parody would be kinda fun; if you remember "The Man Show" with Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carrola... not quite as overt, like girls on trampolines, but fun nonetheless. Perhaps have a page 3 girl. ;)
Just a thought. But moving away from Lebowski and making it a general interest e-rag would certainly fly.
Some suggested departments:
-"We got Yer Beeper" - Review of low and medium tech toys that still make do. Palm pilots, Beta, 8-Tracks, brick phones, View Masters
-"The In and Out's Closed" - Quick recipes for those midnight munchies
-"Toes By Three" - Medical Breakthroughs for Boomers
-"I Hate the F*cking Eagles" - Music, movie, and book reviews
There's lots of potential here.
(http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif) What would be cool would be a Dudeist Magazine App like the CNN, BBC, or NPR App.....
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The app idea is good, too. I can write Android apps but not iPhone ones. It's possible but I don't have an iPhone to test them on.
And I like the idea of the Page 3 Girl, but what would the female Dudes think? Chime in!
May I also suggest adding to the tech idea? We can review software/apps that make life easier or funner.
Here are some other ideas to add to the app idea. These are mainly to increase exposure.
Google has its Google Currents, and the corresponding Producer, so you can publish digital magazines available to Android and iPad/iPhone users.
Amazon can offer magazines through the Kindle Publishing program.
I've been playing with both, and there are pros and cons for each. I think for ease of use, Amazon's would be better. You just make a HTML/XML/epub file, use KindleGen to create a Kindle book. You can make HTML with a text editor or various free editors. XML is easy if you know it. Epubs are simple through something like Sigil (which I use and love).
If not, feel free to ignore this message. :)
Quote from: forumdude on December 03, 2012, 10:00:07 AM
Not likely that we'd do a print version (too much outlay) so InDesign wouldn't be the tool of choice (I have a copy - used to be a print graphic designer - but thanks for the suggestion), probably just do an online version. Interesting idea though. Would be a good way to get the Dudocracy involved - I've been loath to put ads on any Dudeism sites, but a Dudeist general interest magazine could have them, and then people who submit content could earn Google adwords revenue from pages they write that are clicked on.
I've got an article about how to remove grout stains using spirit vinegar that I'd be happy to contribute. I originally wrote it for the Catholic Herald but they rejected it (probably because of all the spelling mistakes) so you could have it for free.
Quote from: forumdude on November 30, 2012, 11:00:48 PM
To be honest I was thinking that maybe the Dudespaper should evolve into a more general interest sort of magazine. Move away from the Lebowski stuff and truly be a "Lifestyle Magazine for the Deeply Casual." So there's be columns on how to relax, simplify your life, easy ways to help feed the monkey, practical consumerism, ideas for activities that are unique and not the same old same old. Basically epicureanism but the original uncompromised first draft.
The website could use a total redesign and we could relegate the current lebowski centric stuff to a section all it's own.
Or do you guys think it would be better to start with something totally fresh?
A million times this! The Big Lebowski is and always will be sacred fun to us, but it is somewhat minor to the bigger message of dudeism. Dudeism is about a lot more than just fanboyism to many of us and I know many others can be turned off by the fanaticism of the TBL before they can open up to dudeism message. If this pool is stagnating, then it's time to open the dam and go with the flow. Let's not be afraid of the unknown. Keep'er Easy Dudes.
Quote from: Masked Dude on December 04, 2012, 11:22:51 PM
The app idea is good, too. I can write Android apps but not iPhone ones. It's possible but I don't have an iPhone to test them on.
And I like the idea of the Page 3 Girl, but what would the female Dudes think? Chime in!
May I also suggest adding to the tech idea? We can review software/apps that make life easier or funner.
Ah, I think maybe a page three dude, or a dude of the week or what have you, might appeal to broader audience. Page three girl kinda sounds like Easy Rider or something. Just, ya know, my opinion and such.
How about using Zeen.com from Google? 8)
http://zeen.com/ (http://zeen.com/)
Quote from: cckeiser on December 10, 2012, 10:35:42 PM
How about using Zeen.com from Google? 8)
http://zeen.com/ (http://zeen.com/)
Wow, that's way cool! (http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif)
...but
"Zeen," is that some kind of Eastern thing? ;D
To get off the ground, the magazine needs an editor. I'd love to see this thing happen. If FD, DB or any of the other big boys ain't got time, I'd be happy to volunteer.
100% delighted to stand aside if anyone else wants it but it would be a real pity if somebody didn't pick up the bag of undies and run with it.
super! the forum has some of the smartest fellers in dudeism. it would be great to start here. everybody think about ideas for the new magazine. Columns, features, the name of the mag, etc. Maybe we can even do google adwords and people can share in the ad revenue. I've been averse to putting ads in Dudeist stuff but this would be more general interest so it might be ok.
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on December 11, 2012, 11:50:44 AM
To get off the ground, the magazine needs an editor. I'd love to see this thing happen. If FD, DB or any of the other big boys ain't got time, I'd be happy to volunteer.
100% delighted to stand aside if anyone else wants it but it would be a real pity if somebody didn't pick up the bag of undies and run with it.
Fine by me...sounds exhausting...8)
Quote from: forumdude on December 11, 2012, 10:54:59 PM
super! the forum has some of the smartest fellers in dudeism. it would be great to start here. everybody think about ideas for the new magazine. Columns, features, the name of the mag, etc. Maybe we can even do google adwords and people can share in the ad revenue. I've been averse to putting ads in Dudeist stuff but this would be more general interest so it might be ok.
I'll help where I can....just let me know what you need.
As for the name ??? How about The Art of Dudeism? The Dudeist Life? The Dudeist Life Style? Pin Dudeism?
anyone else have a name?
I'd be glad to help out in any way I can. Editor, contributor, monkey, whatever. :)
I'm a big fan of calling it "Abide" or "Abide Magazine." Basically a name to suggest it's for easier and productive living.
It could have sections for
- Music - and if people let us link to YouTube, web, or mp3, all the better
- Books
- How-to - make shelves, fix that bad CD burn, make Roman curtains from old fabric
- Movies - cinema, DVD, Blu-ray
- Abiding Places - photos of places, like your favorite beach scene, hidden forest pocket, or something worthy of being printed out and hung near your desk
- Apps - apps that may make your life a bit easier, or at least more fun
- Lifestyle - recipes, drinks, restaurants, funny stories about such things
- 13 Questions - find someone famous or noteworthy; why 13 questions? Playboy and others have 20, why not 13? Could use 21 for blackjack. Or 42 for the meaning of life. So on.
It could have main sections, like Entertainment (music, books), Lifestyle (food, drink, clothes), Tech, Travel & Places, and so on.
Just a few ideas I typed out really fast. Didn't think them through and been having a rough time, so don't expect quality work right now. :)
i own the domain abideguide.com - maybe we could make a magazine called the abide guide as well? or just "Abide Guide".
I'd prefer to do something with "Abide". More of a general interest. But something with Dude could work too. Should it be oriented towards men? Or both sexes?
It should be "oriented" for dudes.
i agree. i think it should be for dudes of both sexes. not too much t and a. although some is ok, if it's done in a lighthearted way.
If you have no other plans for abideguide.com, I'm all for calling the magazine "Abide Guide."
It's all about the monkey dudes.
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Quote from: forumdude on December 11, 2012, 11:25:43 PM
i agree. i think it should be for dudes of both sexes. not too much t and a. although some is ok, if it's done in a lighthearted way.
Vagina? ;D
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My first article would be on "Women, Dudeism and Beer," a favorite topic of mine. ;D
I have the image for you right here for that article:
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or
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Way cool photos, dude! ;D(http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/default/images/post/thumbup.gif) Beer and females forms; two of my favorite subjects.
Any new leads here dudes? 8)