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The Dude Lifestyle => Living the Life of the Dude => Topic started by: Ninjabob27 on August 31, 2012, 02:04:11 PM

Title: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Ninjabob27 on August 31, 2012, 02:04:11 PM
     Is there anybody else on here who thinks the Libertarian Party is the most Dudely of the political parties? When you consider how they are all for pulling the troops out of countries they don't belong in and taking more power away from the Government. As well as the fact that they don't want the bible to have any affect on government whatsoever. They aren't bible-thumpers like the Republicans and they don't want to throw money around like Democrats.
   
    That being said, they fit right in there, a political party for their time and place. And let's not forget, Dudes, let's not forget that Gary Johnson has openly stated many times how he wants to legalize everybody's favorite greenery, man. I know I'm not the only one here who knows how beneficial the legalization of cannabis would be.

    Everything I said notwithstanding, I'm also just really tired of the popularity contest going on between the Republicans and Democrats, real reactionaries. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: forumdude on August 31, 2012, 05:36:17 PM
I have considered myself Libertarian for years, but it's only been after the recent economic disasters that I've felt that perhaps greater regulation of the finance sector might be in order. Laizzez Faire may be a bit to lazy, even for a principled Dudeist. Someone's got to guard the henhouse to keep the wolves out.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: EnglishDude95 on September 03, 2012, 03:37:34 PM
I'm not from the US so i don't know the precise ins-and-outs of US politics, but apparently a "left libertarian". What that means I'm not sure, but I agree with a mixture of liberal and libertarian ideas. I don't know much about Johnson but I think Ron Paul is a real whackjob to be honest, and I don't think extreme capitalism is a good solution to economic issues, completely destroying the welfare system would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater in my opinion. But hey, that's just like, my opinion man and I don't mind if anyone disagrees, as long as they aren't a real reactionary about it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Leopoldrose on September 03, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: EnglishDude95 on September 03, 2012, 03:37:34 PM
I'm not from the US so i don't know the precise ins-and-outs of US politics, but apparently a "left libertarian". What that means I'm not sure, but I agree with a mixture of liberal and libertarian ideas. I don't know much about Johnson but I think Ron Paul is a real whackjob to be honest, and I don't think extreme capitalism is a good solution to economic issues, completely destroying the welfare system would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater in my opinion. But hey, that's just like, my opinion man and I don't mind if anyone disagrees, as long as they aren't a real reactionary about it.

Amen English dude. Virtual fist bump.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: NobleElement on September 10, 2012, 10:48:12 AM
I just took this political leaning test and came up as Left-Libertarian.  I came out further out to the left and down than the Dalai Lama, which surprised me, so I can't vouch for how like, legit, the test is man.  But might be worth doing for fun:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: forumdude on September 10, 2012, 04:37:35 PM
Quote from: NobleElement on September 10, 2012, 10:48:12 AM
I just took this political leaning test and came up as Left-Libertarian.  I came out further out to the left and down than the Dalai Lama, which surprised me, so I can't vouch for how like, legit, the test is man.  But might be worth doing for fun:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

thanks for posting this, man. i just reposted at our facebook page and hundreds of dudeists replied. nearly everyone is left-libertarian: www.facebook.com/Dudeism
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Caesar dude on September 10, 2012, 05:18:08 PM
Fuck me...I'm further left libertarian than Ghandi!!! :)

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-8.00&soc=-7.95 (http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-8.00&soc=-7.95)
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 10, 2012, 07:16:20 PM
Fascinating survey.  I'm actually at pretty well the same score as Ghandi!  Who'da thunk.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 10, 2012, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: forumdude on August 31, 2012, 05:36:17 PM
I have considered myself Libertarian for years, but it's only been after the recent economic disasters that I've felt that perhaps greater regulation of the finance sector might be in order. Laizzez Faire may be a bit to lazy, even for a principled Dudeist. Someone's got to guard the henhouse to keep the wolves out.

Absolutely agreed. Corporations and financial institutions by their very nature are undude, so they need more oversight than any dude, that's for sure.  Not to brag, but Canada fared better than our neighbours to the south for that very reason: our rules are tighter.  I guess the financial culture in Canada would score more authoritarian ...
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Caesar dude on September 10, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
And your relaxed attitude to immigrants is cool too.

As long as they are contributing to rather than draining your economy.

I very nearly emigrated to Canada. I have relatives there.

Peace you fellow libertarian you! :)
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: cckeiser on September 10, 2012, 10:05:40 PM
(http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-4.62&soc=-4.21)
The Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

I have no idea what this means? ???
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 10, 2012, 10:40:28 PM
It's useful to compare it to other known people...



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Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: NobleElement on September 11, 2012, 11:52:58 AM
My friends and I were discussing the validity of the test. Most people show up as some form of Left, and we thought that you almost had to answer like an asshole to get Right.

Forumdude, glad it was shared. Feel like I contributed to dudeism or something. ;)

And if nothing else, it gets ya thinking.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 11, 2012, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: NobleElement on September 11, 2012, 11:52:58 AM
we thought that you almost had to answer like an asshole to get Right.

But that's partly the point - it clearly shows how the right thinks!  ;)
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Zen Dog on September 20, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
I'm slightly north west of the Dalai Lama.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: BikerDude on September 21, 2012, 06:34:50 PM
I would agree.
And it is the most Dudely because if you are a libertarian you can just go bowling instead of voting.
Cause your vote means nothing.

Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
The *only* reason I vote is so I have a right to bitch an complain... otherwise, by not voting you've waived that right by your non-involvement.

IMDO of course...
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: BikerDude on September 21, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
The *only* reason I vote is so I have a right to bitch an complain... otherwise, by not voting you've waived that right by your non-involvement.

IMDO of course...


George Calin always said the opposite.
When you don't vote you can complain about them.
The people who voted the jerks into office waive the right.

I don't care either way.
My point is that if you aren't voting for one of the 2 it's a wasted vote.
Unless of course the 3rd party candidate has taken you from one of the 2.
I typically don't like either.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 07:22:48 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on September 21, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
The *only* reason I vote is so I have a right to bitch an complain... otherwise, by not voting you've waived that right by your non-involvement.

IMDO of course...


George Calin always said the opposite.
When you don't vote you can complain about them.
The people who voted the jerks into office waive the right.

I don't care either way.
My point is that if you aren't voting for one of the 2 it's a wasted vote.
Unless of course the 3rd party candidate has taken you from one of the 2.
I typically don't like either.

Well, as it turns out, the most responsible vote here in Canada is for a party that only has an extremely small house representation... so it's a wasted vote anyways. 

We bitch a lot, but where else can we live that's better than here?
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: BikerDude on September 21, 2012, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 07:22:48 PM
Quote from: BikerDude on September 21, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Hominid on September 21, 2012, 06:55:05 PM
The *only* reason I vote is so I have a right to bitch an complain... otherwise, by not voting you've waived that right by your non-involvement.

IMDO of course...


George Calin always said the opposite.
When you don't vote you can complain about them.
The people who voted the jerks into office waive the right.

I don't care either way.
My point is that if you aren't voting for one of the 2 it's a wasted vote.
Unless of course the 3rd party candidate has taken you from one of the 2.
I typically don't like either.

Well, as it turns out, the most responsible vote here in Canada is for a party that only has an extremely small house representation... so it's a wasted vote anyways. 

We bitch a lot, but where else can we live that's better than here?

I never got to vote in Canada but if I ever did I'd have been with the Marijuana party.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: cckeiser on September 21, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
With "Black Box" voting machines our votes do not count anyway. Just one of many site on Black Box voting machines.
http://www.votescam.org/the_evidence
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box_voting
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: Ninjabob27 on September 30, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
    Dudes! I'm happy to see all the feedback. A lot of ins and outs to sort through. Also, thanks for the survey, Forumdude. Interesting how the term "wasted vote" managed to get stuck in here. Interesting, to me anyway, because Gary Johnson is using it as a tongue-in-cheek campaign slogan. Maybe that's why I like him best, he just seems so fucking chillaxed. Somebody I could share a lane with any day, though I guess Obama seems friendly enough too. Not stiff like Romney, he's not of this world.
   
    Since there was a survey put up, I'd like to share the one I took a couple months ago. I found it to be good and thourah. Nice way to see where you stand on the political spectrum.
http://www.isidewith.com/

There ya have it.
Title: Re: Libertarian Dudes
Post by: cckeiser on September 30, 2012, 10:55:17 PM
http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=3791.0

Quote from: cckeiser on September 27, 2012, 01:29:34 PM
I thought I would be in Gary Johnson's camp, but it turns out I'm more in Jill Stein's!

Try this short quiz to see which 2012 presidential candidate you side with...

http://www.isidewith.com/presidential-election-quiz

Here are my results... http://www.isidewith.com/results/131904254

The Facebook group may like this as well. I am not on Facebook. 8)