I believe that the Path of Dudeism is not just a Religion and a Philosophy, but that it is also a Way of Life. Your life will be more at Peace, through following the Path of Dudeism.
You will view the world through Clearer and Calmer eyes than you have ever done before. When you deal with people at work and through out other aspects of your life you will be able to deal with them with Kindness, Compassion, Tolerance, Wisdom and a Peaceful Calm Abiding. Being a Dudeist will make you a better person, and in doing so you can help to make the world a better place to live for us all.
Well said dude.
I have only been abiding as a Dudeist Priest for a few weeks now and already my life is improving. I am seeing things that I should of seen all along if it wasn't for my previously uptight thinking. I'm not just following the path of Dudeism, I'm also following the path I have followed when I was younger but strayed away from in college, to do what I love, the way I want to do it. Dudeism really changed my life as I'm sure it did for all you other dudes out there. The Dude Abides! :)
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
I think we all start out following the Dude Way because it's a natural way to be but then society fucks us up as we grow older. We are never taught that the Dude Way is the right way and so we end up on the wrong path at some point. For us Dudeists, we found the right path once again while others may have not. But hey, that's just like, uh, my opinion man.
Quote from: SirNels on July 06, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
I believe that the Path of Dudeism is not just a Religion and a Philosophy, but that it is also a Way of Life. Your life will be more at Peace, through following the Path of Dudeism.
Again I have to disagree.
Many of us are drawn here because this is how we live our lives.
Please don't try to force yourselves to change your lives to fit some abstract "Dude" idea.
Being "Dudeist" shouldn't change your life, it's only a word.
Following the Taoist idea, everyone is Dudeist, they just need to relax and realise the fact.
Again please stop trying to be the Dude and just get on with just being.
Quote from: meekon5 on July 19, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
Quote from: SirNels on July 06, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
I believe that the Path of Dudeism is not just a Religion and a Philosophy, but that it is also a Way of Life. Your life will be more at Peace, through following the Path of Dudeism.
Again I have to disagree.
Many of us are drawn here because this is how we live our lives.
Please don't try to force yourselves to change your lives to fit some abstract "Dude" idea.
Being "Dudeist" shouldn't change your life, it's only a word.
Following the Taoist idea, everyone is Dudeist, they just need to relax and realise the fact.
Again please stop trying to be the Dude and just get on with just being.
Good advice, M5, don't TRY (self defeating) to be a dude, just let your inner dude out to roll.
Good point. The Dude did not become the Dude by trying to be like that, it was a natural result of a lifetime of abiding.
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on July 19, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on July 19, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
Quote from: SirNels on July 06, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
I believe that the Path of Dudeism is not just a Religion and a Philosophy, but that it is also a Way of Life. Your life will be more at Peace, through following the Path of Dudeism.
Again I have to disagree.
Many of us are drawn here because this is how we live our lives.
Please don't try to force yourselves to change your lives to fit some abstract "Dude" idea.
Being "Dudeist" shouldn't change your life, it's only a word.
Following the Taoist idea, everyone is Dudeist, they just need to relax and realise the fact.
Again please stop trying to be the Dude and just get on with just being.
Good advice, M5, don't TRY (self defeating) to be a dude, just let your inner dude out to roll.
Yes, if you try to change yourself in an attempt to be more Dude-like, it becomes an attachment, and attachment can lead to all sorts of ugly things. We all have the Dude within us. Just relax and abide, and it will come through on it's own.
Yep, we all naturally want to follow the Dude Way because that's where it flows, so go with it man. :)
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
I dig your style man. Same here.
Hey fellows (didn't want to creat a new post, when there are already a lot about dudeism and its words).
I just found this gem over uberhumor (big day at work again).
I think it's a good and fun way to descibe Dudeism.
Cheer, mates.
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
woah... I'm in my mid 20-s, working hard and trying to provide for the family. no kids yet, but still. does this mean I can't embrace my dudeness yet? :(
Meekon5 remind me of a sentence.
"People prefer changing themselves rather than accepting themselves.
Because accepting themselves is the hardest choice.
And it will never change."
I like the little paradoxical irony in this sentence. I heard it from a comic showman (Anthony Kavanagh, Canadian/Quebec, maybe Masked dude knows him).
One should see what he/she is, and accept him/herself as he/she is, every part, goods and bad, Donny and Walter, Yin and Yang.
I'm no example, I do not have the arrogance to think so.
I'm not lazy (well, not totally), I work hard, to feed my family. I can't have all I wish (a dog, a HD bike, a pool, Swedish babysitters above 18 y.o. for my children,...), but I do with what i already have, and it fills me with joy
I'm clever was well educated, some of my physical form stick to the "beauty standards" of a man in our society, but I also have darker parts. I deal with it, hence I have no stress issues. I do not live like the Dude.
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I know what I know, what I don't know, I may learn it afterward, or not.
I accept my weakness as I do with strength, and my victories as my failures.
I do not try to "look like someone".
I am who I am, with my lifestyle, my thoughts, my opinion, and other people do it on their own ways.
If someone is displeased with it, he can say it, but he does not have the power to make me change, and he should not wish to do so, as I don't, upon him.
That is what the path of Dudeism is for me.
Quote from: Bullett00th on August 21, 2013, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
woah... I'm in my mid 20-s, working hard and trying to provide for the family. no kids yet, but still. does this mean I can't embrace my dudeness yet? :(
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
Quote from: Ron on February 21, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: Bullett00th on August 21, 2013, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
woah... I'm in my mid 20-s, working hard and trying to provide for the family. no kids yet, but still. does this mean I can't embrace my dudeness yet? :(
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
Mark it 8 dude!
Welcome to the forum. 10 posts before you become "dude" and can post links.
Stick around dude....I like your style. 8)
Quote from: Ron on February 21, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: Bullett00th on August 21, 2013, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
woah... I'm in my mid 20-s, working hard and trying to provide for the family. no kids yet, but still. does this mean I can't embrace my dudeness yet? :(
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
Good words, Ron dude. Nice to have you in our beach community, mang. Grab a place on the rug and abide, dude! Bars' over there.
Quote from: Ron on February 21, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Quote from: Bullett00th on August 21, 2013, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: wozza on July 18, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
I too was following the path in my twenties. Then I got distracted by the need to provide for a family. Now that they're nearly grown up, and with the help of the Church of the Latter-Day Dude, I'm once again embracing my dudeness.
I wonder how much of a common story this is?
woah... I'm in my mid 20-s, working hard and trying to provide for the family. no kids yet, but still. does this mean I can't embrace my dudeness yet? :(
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
I don't think anyone is advocating the "turn on, tune in, drop out" philosophy here. That shit died out with the old communes from the 60s.
One thing that a lot of Lebowski fans seem to miss is that as of the events of the movie, the Dude is on the verge of homelessness. He's unemployed and appears to be having trouble paying his rent. He's writing a post-dated check for half and half. By the end of the movie, no one has provided him any sort of payout for his troubles and I don't see a reason to be optimistic about his future condition. You can certainly emulate the Dude in this way, but you're not going to end up in a good place. It's very hard to abide when you're sleeping or shitting behind a dumpster, especially in a town like L.A. The Big Lebowski made one good suggestion throughout the entire film: "Get a job, sir!" Of course he was a giant fucking hypocrite, but that doesn't negate the value of his suggestion.
The two Dudes who were the real-life basis for The Dude, Jeff Dowd and Peter Exline, were/are successful members of the film industry, and Exline is a college professor. Jeff Bridges? He's a multi-millionaire and Academy Award-winning actor, artist and musician who's been married to the same woman for almost 40 years and has three kids. I think it's a gigantic mistake to look at the character that is a blend of these three men and assume that the lessons to take away are primarily ones of hedonism, selfishness and sloth.
(After checking out Exline's website, I think it's safe to say that he won't be making appearances at any future Lebowski Fests or Coen Brothers Fan Club meetings. Also, note Jeff Bridges' slight irritation anytime an interviewer asks, "How are you and The Dude different?" "I would say I'm a bit more motivated.", is usually his answer.)
In reality, unless we've won the lottery, were born or married into Lebowski money, or found a briefcase with a million dollars in it under an overpass, we all have to work, pay bills, support others, etc. I try to be frugal so I'm not as dependent on a particular job or income level, but I still have to work.
I'm not saying we should all become mindless little Republican achievers, or compromise ourselves for a job. What I'm saying is, Dudeism should be an outlet for avoiding or dealing with many of the unnecessary stresses that come with those responsibilities and your general outlook on life, not an excuse to turn your back on those responsibilities and the people who depend on you.
Right on man.
Quote from: Ron on February 21, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
wow, that is deep! pretty good point I say. makes me wonder if the movie tried to tell us to stop being naive and marry our tolerance with conviction.
Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2014, 01:21:35 AM
I don't think anyone is advocating the "turn on, tune in, drop out" philosophy here. That shit died out with the old communes from the 60s.
One thing that a lot of Lebowski fans seem to miss is that as of the events of the movie, the Dude is on the verge of homelessness. He's unemployed and appears to be having trouble paying his rent. He's writing a post-dated check for half and half. By the end of the movie, no one has provided him any sort of payout for his troubles and I don't see a reason to be optimistic about his future condition. You can certainly emulate the Dude in this way, but you're not going to end up in a good place. It's very hard to abide when you're sleeping or shitting behind a dumpster, especially in a town like L.A. The Big Lebowski made one good suggestion throughout the entire film: "Get a job, sir!" Of course he was a giant fucking hypocrite, but that doesn't negate the value of his suggestion.
The two Dudes who were the real-life basis for The Dude, Jeff Dowd and Peter Exline, were/are successful members of the film industry, and Exline is a college professor. Jeff Bridges? He's a multi-millionaire and Academy Award-winning actor, artist and musician who's been married to the same woman for almost 40 years and has three kids. I think it's a gigantic mistake to look at the character that is a blend of these three men and assume that the lessons to take away are primarily ones of hedonism, selfishness and sloth.
(After checking out Exline's website, I think it's safe to say that he won't be making appearances at any future Lebowski Fests or Coen Brothers Fan Club meetings. Also, note Jeff Bridges' slight irritation anytime an interviewer asks, "How are you and The Dude different?" "I would say I'm a bit more motivated.", is usually his answer.)
In reality, unless we've won the lottery, were born or married into Lebowski money, or found a briefcase with a million dollars in it under an overpass, we all have to work, pay bills, support others, etc. I try to be frugal so I'm not as dependent on a particular job or income level, but I still have to work.
I'm not saying we should all become mindless little Republican achievers, or compromise ourselves for a job. What I'm saying is, Dudeism should be an outlet for avoiding or dealing with many of the unnecessary stresses that come with those responsibilities and your general outlook on life, not an excuse to turn your back on those responsibilities and the people who depend on you.
all true, but in time I came to the conclusion that we are asking too many questions about the Dude's finances. There's plenty of situations where his attitude is not affected by his material status, and that's something to consider
Quote from: Bullett00th on February 24, 2014, 12:26:33 PM
all true, but in time I came to the conclusion that we are asking too many questions about the Dude's finances. There's plenty of situations where his attitude is not affected by his material status, and that's something to consider
I think everyone should strive to be free of the urge to covet thy neighbor's speedboat and McMansion and lead a blissful life void of excessive material attachments, but that's totally different than assuming that you should follow the (fictional) Dude's lead of dropping out of any sort of responsibility in life. I'm not aware of any apartments in Venice that are free, or free bowling alleys with bars that serve free caucasians. I mean, I guess you could make a career out of living off of various forms of welfare, but that's not much of a life either.
Quote from: Bullett00th on February 24, 2014, 12:26:33 PM
Quote from: Ron on February 21, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
Sorry to necro this thread but I wanted to respond to this idea.
Through my teens and into my early twenties I was heading down what many consider a Dudelike path. And like many I had to confront the reality of providing for myself and then others, something the lifestyle that I saw at that time as being Dudelike just did not allow. I joined the military and transformed overnight into Walter and remained that way for 22 years. Six years ago I left the military but nothing really changed in how I approached life. It took those six years for me to realize that I hadn't really understood what the Stranger was trying to tell me. Now I firmly believe the Stranger's tale included all of the important characters for different reasons, but The Dude, Walter and Donny represent a trinity of personality characteristics that taken in moderation at any point in anyone's life can make embracing your Dudeness achievable. I strongly believe that those are; Tolerance, Conviction and Naivete. Once we recognize that we do not know it all, dedicate ourselves to earning our wisdom rather than simply learning knowledge and develop the tolerance needed to abide the things we just can't change, then we start down a path to a happier more fulfilled existence.
But you know that's just my opinion man and I am not always right, except when I am.
Ron
wow, that is deep! pretty good point I say. makes me wonder if the movie tried to tell us to stop being naive and marry our tolerance with conviction.
Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2014, 01:21:35 AM
I don't think anyone is advocating the "turn on, tune in, drop out" philosophy here. That shit died out with the old communes from the 60s.
One thing that a lot of Lebowski fans seem to miss is that as of the events of the movie, the Dude is on the verge of homelessness. He's unemployed and appears to be having trouble paying his rent. He's writing a post-dated check for half and half. By the end of the movie, no one has provided him any sort of payout for his troubles and I don't see a reason to be optimistic about his future condition. You can certainly emulate the Dude in this way, but you're not going to end up in a good place. It's very hard to abide when you're sleeping or shitting behind a dumpster, especially in a town like L.A. The Big Lebowski made one good suggestion throughout the entire film: "Get a job, sir!" Of course he was a giant fucking hypocrite, but that doesn't negate the value of his suggestion.
The two Dudes who were the real-life basis for The Dude, Jeff Dowd and Peter Exline, were/are successful members of the film industry, and Exline is a college professor. Jeff Bridges? He's a multi-millionaire and Academy Award-winning actor, artist and musician who's been married to the same woman for almost 40 years and has three kids. I think it's a gigantic mistake to look at the character that is a blend of these three men and assume that the lessons to take away are primarily ones of hedonism, selfishness and sloth.
(After checking out Exline's website, I think it's safe to say that he won't be making appearances at any future Lebowski Fests or Coen Brothers Fan Club meetings. Also, note Jeff Bridges' slight irritation anytime an interviewer asks, "How are you and The Dude different?" "I would say I'm a bit more motivated.", is usually his answer.)
In reality, unless we've won the lottery, were born or married into Lebowski money, or found a briefcase with a million dollars in it under an overpass, we all have to work, pay bills, support others, etc. I try to be frugal so I'm not as dependent on a particular job or income level, but I still have to work.
I'm not saying we should all become mindless little Republican achievers, or compromise ourselves for a job. What I'm saying is, Dudeism should be an outlet for avoiding or dealing with many of the unnecessary stresses that come with those responsibilities and your general outlook on life, not an excuse to turn your back on those responsibilities and the people who depend on you.
all true, but in time I came to the conclusion that we are asking too many questions about the Dude's finances. There's plenty of situations where his attitude is not affected by his material status, and that's something to consider
Well I was going for simple rather than deep but I will take the compliment.
I think that naivete is important not for its essence but for what it should induce and that is curiosity. There are two ways to overcome your naivete and both are valuable. We can learn knowledge from what others have experienced or we can earn wisdom by experiencing those things for ourselves. Obviously there is a place for both, but I think we only learn something about ourselves when we experience things and therefore any earned wisdom is greater than learned knowledge of the same subject. Does that get you any closer to dudeness? Fucked if I know.
I like to think that there really isn't just one path or formula to dudeness. Sartre could have written in Existentialism is a Humanism: "...Dudes first of all exist, encounter themselves, surge up in the world--and define themselves afterwards." We can chose to abide, and to be a dude instead of an asshole. But since Dudes can choose to be either assholes or not, they are, in fact, neither of these things essentially.
Again, that's just like my opinion man.
Ron
I read that, in an early script, the Cohens explained the Dude's apparent non-concern with finances by saying he was the sole heir to the Rubik's Cube fortune since it was created by his uncle. Not sure what that means, purports to mean, or doesn't mean. I doubt many of us have that cushion to fall back on. Therefore, moderation in our dude-ness would appear the best course.
Ron, nice one about the Dude, Walter and Donny Trinity. I dig your style dude. To me, Dudeism definitely isn't exclusively embodied by the Dude, but by the balance between the different characters of the movie.
I also think that the opposite of being Dude is trying too hard to be like him. Everyone has to try to be his own Dude, even if your style will be completely different from that of THE Dude. Digging that path can be a bit of a bummer but I think with enough bowling rounds and caucasians, it's doable.
Quote from: Rev. PikaSonic on July 18, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
I think we all start out following the Dude Way because it's a natural way to be but then society fucks us up as we grow older. We are never taught that the Dude Way is the right way and so we end up on the wrong path at some point. For us Dudeists, we found the right path once again while others may have not. But hey, that's just like, uh, my opinion man.
Fuckin eh far fucking out man I completely agree fuck scosiety
My path to Dudeism also rekindled post military. My wife loved my dude-like approach to life and watched it get uptight with business and then military... Dudeism was a wake-up call to get back on the path of Abiding. But I think this is one dude that will take listen to "the Stranger" and work on my path from a different angle...
I find it funny how while there are lots of Taoist tendencies and references for the movie... but people miss the meaning of the the Stranger.
That some kind of Eastern thing?
Far from it.
The Christian Dude Abides is Christ ;)