I seem think that the down-to-earthiness of Jodo Shin reflects a little more of Dudeism & the gentle fatalism of Fuck It, Let's Go Bowling more than Zen's formal monkiness.
Have a gander at this interview to see what I'm blathering about:
http://www.tricycle.com/ordinary-struggles
i totally agree. i've been hit with the zen stick one too many times, and had no sunglasses in which to put on and say 'fuck it'.
good find spacedog dude 8)
Quote from: hannahdude on August 28, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
i totally agree. i've been hit with the zen stick one too many times, and had no sunglasses in which to put on and say 'fuck it'.
I also agree with that.
I'm a big fan of pure land buddhism. It's more geared to the simple folk who really don't feel like sitting around and arguing about sutras.
It pretty much boils down to saying your namu amida buddhas until you've regained your dudeishness.
I think the best translation for namu amida buddha is:
Fuck this shit buddha, you handle it.
Definitely love the concepts and the mediation aspect of Zen more than the formalities. I have gone to the local Vietnamese Zen Center a few times and they are pretty laid back, but this is definitely worth checking out more.
Here's the late great Robert Anton Wilson summing it up in true style!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ain5WI0Lx8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ain5WI0Lx8M)
I like how Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) monkied around with Zen. He was a nutter for sure but he was also a real free-spirit experimenter. The idea of dynamic meditation, where one brings movement and therefore the body more into consciousness really resonates for me. I have been doing a lot of Osho influenced tantra recently and my genitals are already a lot more conscious.
Quotemy genitals are already a lot more conscious.
Vagina?
Db. I like the way we think! :)
Quote from: Caesar dude on October 01, 2012, 05:57:54 PM
Quotemy genitals are already a lot more conscious.
Vagina?
Do you make a habit out of fucking strangers in the ass, or are you just trying it out to see if you like it?
QuoteDo you make a habit out of fucking strangers in the ass, or are you just trying it out to see if you like it?
Only the pretentious ones mate. ;)
Quote from: Caesar dude on October 01, 2012, 05:57:54 PM
Quotemy genitals are already a lot more conscious.
Vagina?
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Namu Johnson Buddha!
I had a realisation about the 'vagina' energy yesterday. During sex I keep a sort of distance, a polarised yang energy, because this is more psychologically comfortable than properly merging with the softness of vaginal yin but also because sex based on energetic tension needs separation, it needs opposites and opposition. But there is a sort of making love that I got a glimpse of where there is a relaxation that comes before orgasmic release in the realisation (at a body level) that two have become one. My ego resisted this because it needs the story of independance and isolation to maintain its integrity but it has lifted a layer of tension from me and brought me closer to a feeling of peace.
Goodness me!
Touch a nerve did I? :)
Try being a dude and not just talking pseudo philosophical bullshit!
You carry on spouting babble and trolling...I'll carry on abiding.
Peace 8)
QuoteI had a realisation about the 'vagina' energy yesterday. During sex I keep a sort of distance, a polarised yang energy, because this is more psychologically comfortable than properly merging with the softness of vaginal yin but also because sex based on energetic tension needs separation, it needs opposites and opposition. But there is a sort of making love that I got a glimpse of where there is a relaxation that comes before orgasmic release in the realisation (at a body level) that two have become one. My ego resisted this because it needs the story of independance and isolation to maintain its integrity but it has lifted a layer of tension from me and brought me closer to a feeling of peace.
Nice edit....that's not what you said before!
So now it's "abuse then edit" Cool man I like your style!
8)
Sex from a distance? Huh? ;D
QuoteDuring sex I keep a sort of distance, a polarised yang energy, because this is more psychologically comfortable than properly merging with the softness of vaginal yin but also because sex based on energetic tension needs separation, it needs opposites and opposition.
This is disturbing on so many levels!
Sex is the closest we (humans) ever get to one another. It's a whole body experience a total commitment to openness with another human being, a sharing, in fact an almost total skin to skin contact with a person who shares the same needs and desires.
You seem to be describing it as an experiment. Or an independent desire...remote from your partner and somewhat exclusive to "you"
Good luck with that! I'm sure your sexual partner will feel awesome knowing that you are having sex just for you. Not exactly trying to make your partner happy but totally engaged in order that you can explain what you felt....not physically...but transcendentally!
Nice one! :)
Edit: Without the modify button.
You're a wanker.
Quote from: Caesar dude on October 03, 2012, 08:11:51 PM
Edit: Without the modify button.
You're a wanker.
He's the center of his own universe, and that post shows it in spades. He had the nerve to tell me outright that he was more enlightened than I was; this during many other condescending posts that he does to intentionally raise the ire of the community with scripted new age psycho babble. I'm truly puzzled beyond puzzled why this troll hasn't been punted.
Edit: I'm not enjoying it here as much as I used to. That's *my* issue, I realize that - I own my own feelings, but I just need to state that out loud. I love good zesty
honest debate (as some of you know), along with just normal day-to-day sharing that we all do here...
Nuff said.
I'm puzzled myself. I'm sure Boston is not a troll (we're friends), but every now and then I do notice some strange posts that sound aggressive. The one about fucking strangers in the ass certainly came out wrong. I'm sure it was meant as a joke. Am I wrong?
But Caesar, you're hitting back a bit hard as well. No need to call people a wanker. And if he doesn't want to put his wee wee in his lady's hoo hah and just see how it feels - or doesn't feel, there's nothing wrong with that. Different strokes for different folks, i guess, pun intended.
Psychobabble should be tolerated here but so is pointing out if it seems like bullshit. Same with New Ageyness. Personally I think most New Age stuff and Psychobabble is antithetical to Dudeism as well, but we have to attack it on its merits - as Caesar has done, albeit a bit harshly - not throw the bodhi out with the bathwater.
Word to the abides, Boston - use smiley faces when you're being ironic. Or just take er a bit easier on the snark. People are starting to find you annoying! You don't want that, do you?
One thought here, dudes. And this is just like my opinion, man; sometimes its good a have a dude post some stuff on the board that antagonizes a few dudes, if for anything, because we all like a good battle and a good debate once in a while. I mean if everything was Yin, where would be the Yang? If everything was white, what use is it without some color (even color we don't dig) splashed on the white canvas to stir things up?
Some of the best content, and the most amount of fun on a message board like this, can come from a dude who joins and then stirs things up a bit, even if a lot of what is posted is bullshit, it still gets us thinking when we respond to content we disagree with or don't dig.
That is to say; where would the Dude be without Walter around? Where would Walter be without Donny? And where would The Big Lebowski be without the Nihilists crashing the Dude's private residence and causing some water to be spilled out of the tub?
That is not to say that I agree with all of the stuff Boston Rockbury has posted, oh contraire; much of it is bullshit...but pretty good bullshit I would say, but bullshit none the less.
as always; IMHO ;)
(http://img.printfection.com/14/332981/x41ZG.jpg)
Quote from: forumdude on October 03, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
Psychobabble
I do a lot of that after my 6th or 7th beer. ;D But I would agree; Boston Rockbury dude, try being calmer. ;)
Sorry for getting my back up dudes - you guys are demonstrating more patience than I am, so I tip my hat to your dudeliness. Diplomacy may not be my strong point, and I'm not shy to share my opinion. But most of all, my BS meter has an inverse relationship with my patience.
So, I'll call'em as I see'm. It just may not always be pretty! ;) I'll rest easy knowing you dudes are taking it easy for us sinners...
Quote from: Hominid on October 03, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
Sorry for getting my back up dudes - you guys are demonstrating more patience than I am, so I tip my hat to your dudeliness. Diplomacy may not be my strong point, and I'm not shy to share my opinion. But most of all, my BS meter has an inverse relationship with my patience.
So, I'll call'em as I see'm. It just may not always be pretty! ;) I'll rest easy knowing you dudes are taking it easy for us sinners...
Same here; glad he's out there, takin' er' easy.
Quote from: forumdude on October 03, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
every now and then I do notice some strange posts that sound aggressive. The one about fucking strangers in the ass certainly came out wrong. I'm sure it was meant as a joke. Am I wrong?
Sorry about the aggressive elements of my posts. There won't be any more of that. I am thinking about the "uncomfortable with the word vagina and the female form". I wonder if we partly experinece the vagina as a force of rejection, because it propels us from the total protection and nurturance of the womb into the pain and suffering of the world. Is it a symbolic doorway?
I experience vagina as a force of rejection because i am so frequently rejected by people who own them.
Ha ha.
But seriously, I do think that men are daunted not by the female form, but by the female persona. The femind can be unfathomable, and can be dangerous. Men in love are like children driving cars. Women in love are like technicians building those cars. IMDO.
And since the vagina is something so coveted, it can be unsettling. Like a big ancient temple or mansion. You want to get near it, to go inside, but you're afraid of its power. That once you go in, you'll never see the world in the same way again.
Quote from: Hominid on October 03, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
my BS meter
;D Like this?
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif)
Quote from: forumdude on October 04, 2012, 03:30:20 AM
I experience vagina as a force of rejection because i am so frequently rejected by people who own them.
See there's another common thread in Dudeism, beards and rejection (Oh wait a minute are the two connected perhaps)?
I too have recently been rejected. Funny really because I'm usually so good at the body language, eye contact thing.
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on October 04, 2012, 05:09:15 AM
Quote from: Hominid on October 03, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
my BS meter
;D Like this?
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif)
Precisely! (Good find! :D )
Quote from: meekon5 on October 04, 2012, 08:25:22 AM
Quote from: forumdude on October 04, 2012, 03:30:20 AM
I experience vagina as a force of rejection because i am so frequently rejected by people who own them.
See there's another common thread in Dudeism, beards and rejection (Oh wait a minute are the two connected perhaps)?
I too have recently been rejected. Funny really because I'm usually so good at the body language, eye contact thing.
Women like the bad boys with long hair, so I think eye contact is low on the list. ;)
Quote from: Hominid on October 04, 2012, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on October 04, 2012, 05:09:15 AM
Quote from: Hominid on October 03, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
my BS meter
;D Like this?
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif)
Precisely! (Good find! :D )
I was thinking about putting that in my signature. ;D
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on October 04, 2012, 06:24:26 PM
Quote from: Hominid on October 04, 2012, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on October 04, 2012, 05:09:15 AM
Quote from: Hominid on October 03, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
my BS meter
;D Like this?
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/1242749315_bullshit_amplifier-detector.gif)
Precisely! (Good find! :D )
I was thinking about putting that in my signature. ;D
DIBS!!!!!!
But, I'm tryin' to figure out how to do that...
Me know how now.
Quote from: Hominid on October 04, 2012, 07:12:37 PM
Me know how now.
Mark it 10! Looks good in your sig, dude. ;D(http://dudeism.com/smf/Themes/classic/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Quote from: meekon5 on October 04, 2012, 08:25:22 AM
Quote from: forumdude on October 04, 2012, 03:30:20 AM
I experience vagina as a force of rejection because i am so frequently rejected by people who own them.
See there's another common thread in Dudeism, beards and rejection (Oh wait a minute are the two connected perhaps)?
I too have recently been rejected. Funny really because I'm usually so good at the body language, eye contact thing.
I have never rejected a women because of her beard. Than again, haven't come across many with one, at least not the kind we are talking about here. :D
Just to cut through all the vaginas and bullshit, so to speak ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grzRgQ_AWY&feature=share (ftp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grzRgQ_AWY&feature=share)
Quote from: mrubs on February 12, 2012, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: hannahdude on August 28, 2011, 12:13:04 PM
i totally agree. i've been hit with the zen stick one too many times, and had no sunglasses in which to put on and say 'fuck it'.
I also agree with that.
I also want to agree with that
Dudes, after reading the posts, I feel like tired.
Just wanna ask one question both linked to Zen Buddhism and vaginas. Why would it necessarily be a matter of 1 or 2 ?
I admit I got interest in Zen Buddhism from my teenager epoca. And it made me like really really zesty for a while. Well, at some point, the here-and-now life took over.
I just can not really understand why it has to be or all-white or all-black.
I mean it serious. Why Yin and Yang, Vagina and Penis ?
No joke, I'm colour-blind and see usually no difference between traffic lights from far.
"The Dude abides"
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. Knowin' he is out there takin' it easy for all us sinners.
Doesn't matter how you swing it dude...."and it harms none....do as you will". That's from a different book dude, but a good one.