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Title: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on May 26, 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Post your links (what have yous) here to nominate a Fascist Of The Week (or, seeing as how things are going, fascist of the day).

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/washington-dc-police-officers-throw-homeless-man-from-wheelchair-video/ (http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/washington-dc-police-officers-throw-homeless-man-from-wheelchair-video/)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Ed C on May 26, 2011, 12:20:34 PM
Pfft, I'll just nominate David Cameron each week for the next 4 years, if it's all the same to you :)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on May 26, 2011, 12:39:10 PM
The Pima County Sheriffs dept., AZ.

A two tour marine was gunned down in his own home by a SWAT team serving a search warrant, they fired 70 rounds and he was hit by 60 bullets. The SWAT team kept EMTs out of the house for an hour while Jose(the marine) bled to death. Jose was sleeping after his night shift, also present were his wife and one of their two sons, the other was at school. Initial reports said they were there to investigate a cannabis distribution ring, no contraband was found, and nothing at the scene indicated criminal behavior, he would not have been arrested for any crime at all, if only he survived their para military tactics.

The story gets uglier from there, see it here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html).

For their actions and subsequent cover up actions, I nominate the Pima County Sheriffs Department for Fascists of the week.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on May 26, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
I wish to nominate both Tony Brown and Gordon Blair (it doesn't matter if you mix the names up they are the same people!) for fascists of the Century.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on May 26, 2011, 03:13:52 PM
Whoa Dude, we murcans have a lock on fascist ass wipes. George W. Bush, need I say more? Okay one moar, Dick(son of Satan) Cheney. Our human paraquats make your fascists look like hippies. You Brits helped give us the Age of Enlightenment, we did okay with it for a while, now it seems our leaders would rather move backwards toward fuedalism.

FFS we put sixty rounds into our own war veterans based on suspicion of possessing plant matter.




Just play'n Dude, but ya gotta admit I make a point
peace
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on May 26, 2011, 03:26:58 PM
Fair play! You win hands down with both Georges! Goddamn Murcans....The plane is crashing into the mountain for sure. :(
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on May 26, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
We WIN!!!! wait, what?
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on May 26, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
Well I capitulate on behalf of modern Britain.....our low life, wife beating, womanising, self important, tax dodging, expenses fiddling, law breaking, self serving, scum that we call politicians can't hold a candle to your lot...I have two words....Sarah Palin.

Nuff said....you murcans are world beaters! ;)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on May 26, 2011, 04:36:46 PM
We are all surrounded by fascist paraquats, that's why.......Dudeism. We are part of the solution, us and our compeers.

The Dude is asleep everywhere, but here the Treehorns have drugged him and got their fascist minion to fling coffee cups at his head.

Glad I'm a member of the Dudenation, that trumps my Murcaness.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on May 26, 2011, 04:49:58 PM
Hey man I am not having a go at you Reverend. The dude is a proud American I'm sure but never a Murcan.

I've lost all faith in our lot...and your lot and the French lot and well just all of the pocket lining bastards!

Peace Sir
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on May 26, 2011, 04:57:27 PM
I know how ya fee mang, this potential paradise is all fucked up right now.

And peace to you as well, no worries, iz all good.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Dave on May 26, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
These American cops are freaking me out man!

Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: meekon5 on May 27, 2011, 05:36:39 AM
Quote from: Caesar dude on May 26, 2011, 04:49:58 PM

...I've lost all faith in our lot...and your lot and the French lot and well just all of the pocket lining bastards!...


To be honest I never had the faith in our lot in the first place. Thatcher the Union Killer, "Oh lets let the Argies invade then we can have a little war and my popularity ratings will go up!"
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on May 27, 2011, 07:28:36 AM
This extreme UN-dude, the fucking fascist bastard!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13570160

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53025000/jpg/_53025516_012083109.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on May 27, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Thai gov't coming up here:

Thailand arrests American for alleged king insult

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/27/us-thailand-lesemajeste-idUSTRE74Q29T20110527

http://hosted2.ap.org/txdam/633c954da7d9434f9de7ed15f38075aa/Article_2011-05-27-AS-Thailand-Monarchy/id-f341747dfa2b43c4a2b92b531d24a133
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 03, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
All sound nominations above - here's my offering, this week (I don't wanna sound like a stuck record - it's the Catholics, again - but what can you do when they come out with shit like this?): http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/ (http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cckeiser on June 03, 2011, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 03, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
All sound nominations above - here's my offering, this week (I don't wanna sound like a stuck record - it's the Catholics, again - but what can you do when they come out with shit like this?): http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/ (http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/)

Jesus!! What's that smell!??
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on June 04, 2011, 02:02:43 AM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 03, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
All sound nominations above - here's my offering, this week (I don't wanna sound like a stuck record - it's the Catholics, again - but what can you do when they come out with shit like this?): http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/ (http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/catholic-church-officially-blames-hippies-for-their-child-abuse-scandals/)

This aggression will not stand, man!

............I'll have to look, but doesn't the Catholic church have a long history of abuse scandals of it's own? I seem to remember a problem with priests and little boys.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: FuckinA on June 04, 2011, 02:08:32 AM
Yeah, well, I think the only problem in Cakebelly's post is that he uses the term 'the catholics'. That's not the preferred nomenclature here dude! make it "some fascists within the catholic church' or something. There way more good people in the church...
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 04, 2011, 12:38:46 PM
"Yeah, well, I think the only problem in Cakebelly's post is that he uses the term 'the catholics'. That's not the preferred nomenclature here dude! make it "some fascists within the catholic church' or something. There way more good people in the church..."

That's just your opinion - my opinion (on the issue of the systematic rape of children, the covering up of said crimes and the threat of excommunication of the victims if they spoke of it) is  if you still belong to a church that forgives and protects the rapist and punishes the victim then you are not a 'good person' you are a cunt.

Good people do not belong to an organization that is involved in such crimes (it's long bloody history of persecution, homophobia, oppression of women, etc.).  Good people dissent - good people do something about it - good people have drawn a line in the sand. They start again and (at the paltry least) distance themselves from the criminals. There is no excuse, for 'good people' to remain in that church. NONE.

When your rug is pissed on you get a new rug: http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm (http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm) Scroll down the page to see a list of dissenting Catholic organizations . . they may just be good people.

http://youtu.be/hEn0px0uJZQ (http://youtu.be/hEn0px0uJZQ)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cckeiser on June 04, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcuin

Charlemagne

Alcuin's love of the church and his intellectual curiosity allowed him to be reluctantly persuaded to join Charlemagne's court. He joined an illustrious group of scholars that Charlemagne had gathered around him, the mainsprings of the Carolingian Renaissance: Peter of Pisa, Paulinus of Aquileia, Rado and Abbot Fulrad. Alcuin would later write that "the Lord was calling me to the service of King Charles."

He was welcomed at the Palace School of Charlemagne in Aachen (Urbs Regale) in 782. It had been founded by the king?s ancestors as a place for the education of the royal children (mostly in manners and the ways of the court). However, Charlemagne wanted to include the liberal arts and, most importantly, the study of the religion that he held sacred. From 782-790, Alcuin taught Charlemagne himself, his sons Pepin and Louis, the young men sent to be educated at court and the young clerics attached to the palace chapel. Bringing with him from York his assistants Pyttel, Sigewulf and Joseph, Alcuin revolutionized the educational standards of the Palace School, introducing Charlemagne to the liberal arts and creating a personalised atmosphere of scholarship and learning, to the extent that the institution came to be known as the 'school of Master Albinus'.

In this role as adviser, he tackled the emperor over his policy of forcing pagans to be baptised on pain of death, arguing, "Faith is a free act of the will, not a forced act. We must appeal to the conscience, not compel it by violence. You can force people to be baptised, but you cannot force them to believe." His arguments seem to have prevailed - Charlemagne abolished the death penalty for paganism in 797.[7]

Charlemagne was a master at gathering the best men of every land in his court. He himself became far more than just the king at the center. It seems that he made many of these men his closest friends and counsellors. They referred to him as 'David', a reference to the Biblical king David. Alcuin soon found himself on intimate terms with Charlemagne and the other men at court, to whom he gave nicknames to be used for work and play.[citation needed] Alcuin himself was known as 'Albinus' or 'Flaccus'.

Alcuin?s friendships also extended to the ladies of the court, especially the queen mother and the king's daughters. His relationships with these women never reached the intense level of those of the men around him. Modern commentators,[8] have identified the homo-erotic tone of some of Alcuin's poetry, emphasising the spiritual and idealistic aspects of his love for his friends and his pupils.[9] While at Aachen, his pupils were given pet names, derived from classical allusions (mainly from Virgil's Eclogues).

Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cckeiser on June 04, 2011, 01:40:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boswell
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/sykeon-adelpho.html
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 04, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 04, 2011, 12:38:46 PM
"Yeah, well, I think the only problem in Cakebelly's post is that he uses the term 'the catholics'. That's not the preferred nomenclature here dude! make it "some fascists within the catholic church' or something. There way more good people in the church..."

That's just your opinion - my opinion (on the issue of the systematic rape of children, the covering up of said crimes and the threat of excommunication of the victims if they spoke of it) is  if you still belong to a church that forgives and protects the rapist and punishes the victim then you are not a 'good person' you are a cunt.

Good people do not belong to an organization that is involved in such crimes (it's long bloody history of persecution, homophobia, oppression of women, etc.).  Good people dissent - good people do something about it - good people have drawn a line in the sand. They start again and (at the paltry least) distance themselves from the criminals. There is no excuse, for 'good people' to remain in that church. NONE.

When your rug is pissed on you get a new rug: http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm (http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/dissorg.htm) Scroll down the page to see a list of dissenting Catholic organizations . . they may just be good people.

http://youtu.be/hEn0px0uJZQ (http://youtu.be/hEn0px0uJZQ)


Hey, man, I'm not trying to be a hard-on, because you make a very good point about protesting, but we all have logs in our eyes about that kind of stuff. For example, check out your use of the word "cunt"--very derogatory, violent, anti-woman, etc. We all get used to these kinds of things, and I'm not excluding myself in any way. I say, yeah, organize against oppression, help change the world, but it's not real cool to judge in the process. Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying, but it sounds to me like you're crossing the line a bit in this way. I think that a lot of times, it's just a matter of people being motivated to step out of their comfort zone.

"There is no excuse, for 'good people' to remain in that church." - Well, by this line of reasoning, all those of us who haven't left the US because of its war-mongering policies and actions are bad people. At least, that's the way I understand what you've said here. I get your anger, and there are a lot of people here who are angry about various fascist acts, and maybe we should do more about this as a group and as individuals. But, I guess I really think there are good reasons why people remain in the Catholic Church, and that they should be understood and honored.

We all partake in whatever injustices are intricately woven into our way of life. I'm not saying this is a good thing. I'm just saying take it easy on all us sinners, man.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 04, 2011, 04:53:21 PM
The use of the word "cunt", these days, has different connotations depending on where you are in the world. There are a lot of cunts about: tight, loose, evil, peachy-keen, good, dry, stupid, smart, lucky, drippy, scabby, ignorant, 'orrible.  We are all cunts, to some extent, but anyway  my wife says I shouldn't apologize because my cultural experience  differs from the slightly backward American experience (in this regard). It's use here (in the States) may be more an abusive term hurled at women (I'll admit I forgot where I was, so to speak and I was probably deliberately leaning towards the controversial in its usage) so, let me use the term bad person as I continue with the terminology used  in Fuckin' A's post.

Yeah, the Catholic church does not require you to have a  passport (it is not determined by geography, these days, as is the USA); it requires you to believe in certain things (like Papal infallibility, etc). It is an empire of thought and tradition; a system of belief that requires you to judge/denigrate certain of your fellow human beings in a particular manner. In a way, I guess, the  Catholic passport to heaven is a psychic one. So, I'm not sure that your geographical metaphor holds water. In fact, it doesn't. Indian Nationalists burned their ID cards in protest at the British Raj:  protesters against the Vietnam war burned their draft cards; thousands upon thousands of South American  dissenters have been 'disappeared' by American- backed regimes in the name of commerce [edit: and the partners of the 'disapeared' dance the"'Danse Macabre" in protest - they dance a waltz with themselves in public places]: what do Catholics do if they wish to protest the rape of children? Do they burn their cards? No, they leave the psychic-fold and set-up their own Church that addresses what ever issue they feel uncomfortable with. Those who do not protest are bad people and paper Christians. I am unaware of any catholic groups pressing for the arrest of the rapists and the Pope, but there may be. The infallibility issue means, in very real terms, that if the Pope thinks there are no crimes to answer for then the rank and file of believers are required to feel/think in the same way. There is no democratic system in place to remove the Pope that would leave the infallibility issue intact. If you remain a member of a church that requires you accept child rape (and many other inhumane/questionable beliefs) then you are, quite simply, a cunt  - sorry, I mean a bad person. Ignorance, blind faith, traditionalism - what have you - no fuckin' excuse. If you know the kind of shit that is going down but you turn a blind eye then you are a bad person; if questioning the validity of a priest's action takes you out of your "comfort zone" then fuck you, deal with it, evolve: we are talking about the sexual abuse of kids -  if you bury your head in the sand of doctrine you're a bad person and rape continues to be okay. You may wish to "honor" the ignorance, blind faith, indoctrinated states of such people - that's up to you. IMO honoring such twaddle merely perpetuates the crimes and makes you a bad person, too.  There are rules and in this particular case true Christians would not be content until the revered marble and gold halls of the guilty are torn down and the fuckers brought to justice.

The exploitation of humanities need to place something between him/her and the cold, lonely, vastness of the universe  is a problem when that something becomes immune to the rule of law (or at least common decency), when it becomes twisted and corrupt. The need for a psychic buffer zone (if you will) is perfectly understandable, I might even venture that I think it may be a natural condition of our State as human beings. Dudeism, brethren, will help us ease our fears with laughter, the odd oat soda and maybe an occasional row (baby oil optional)  - it may help us see, even though our tongues are usually in our cheeks (sometimes other people's cheeks) that, really, there are rules, there is a line and when you cross it you become part of the problem: you become a fuckin' fascist and you will be treated as one until it is understood that this aggression against the innocents will most certainly not fuckin' stand. Peace, you cunts.
Cuntbelly, somewhere in cunting Pomona.

ps. I appreciate that you (Outer Limit) are not trying to be a hard on; I guess I am coming across as one but then again, surely that is the desired response in this case. There is a line . . isn't there?
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on June 04, 2011, 05:35:07 PM
@ Cakebelly

To use the Facebook term. If their was a like button here I would have clicked it!

I was brought up as Catholic and soundly rejected there ideals and philosophy before the age of 10. I can't "not be" a Catholic as I was Christened one...and you can't really un-Christen yourself.

One of my priests (Father Gallagher) was a drunken Irish sod who was shagging his housemaid! This was whispered about by all the adults who still worshipped every Sunday but as they were "good Catholics" managed to turn a blind eye in the name of whatever.

Fuck the Catholic Church,  Fuck the Nazi Pope, Fuck the paedophiles. They are Jew and women hating Cunts. And I will not apologise for my use of the word because it describes the unapologetic, murdering fuckheads exactly.

I really do hope that Malachy was correct and that Nazi bastard is the penultimate Pope.

In peace Reverends!!!!!
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 04, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
Cakebelly, I agree with you that there's a line you do not cross in regard to children. But child abuse is everywhere. It's not just in the Catholic church--it's in the schools, in the homes, in the parks, wherever there are perpetrators with access to children. Coverups are everywhere as well, and yes, we should do everything we can to protect children and bring the perps to justice. If you don't see anything good in the Catholic religion or in the followers of it, then that's your opinion, man. I'm just saying that the Catholic Church certainly doesn't have a corner on the child abuse market, and that Catholics who take in easy in regard to activism about this issue are no different from you and me when we're not doing all we could for whatever cause we're very much aware of and believe in. I could get behind tough love on this issue, but what I'm hearing from you seems more along the lines of hate. I could be misinterpreting, but this is my concern, dude.

As far as "cunt," the use of the word to refer to a woman or a woman's anatomy in a derogatory way is still pretty common. Yes, it has plenty of other uses, even in the "backward" USA. You want to use it--that's up to you--but to me, it's part of the whole hating women thing, which I think is alive and well in the US and world-wide.

I have a friend who doesn't like TBL because of the 281 or however many "fucks" in it. I don't have a problem with "fuck." I like the word--it's expressive and it feels good to say it. But I'm very aware that it's a violent expression. The line I draw--for myself--is that I don't like to hear words that refer to a woman or a part of a woman as an insult, and when I do and if it seems like the thing to do, I'll state my opinion. To me, it's like the kids calling things "gay" these days when they mean "stupid." I'm personally not offended when I hear this, but I'm aware that others are, and I'm pretty sure that it's just another way to keep homophobia going.

When "cunt" is used to mean something or someone nasty, I do feel personally offended. I'm a transgender man--I lived as a woman, with women's parts, for 40-odd years. There are female dudes on this board, and while I can't speak for them or, for that matter, any of the male or other-gendered dudes here, I personally don't think it's a real welcoming part of the language. I'm not trying to protect anyone, and am very aware that no one but me may feel offended by the word or think it has anything to do with misogyny. I'm just pointing out that I don't think it's cool and why I feel that way. Also, just to be clear, I never asked you for an apology, nor do I require one. I just wanted you to hear my points.


Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Dave on June 05, 2011, 12:43:17 AM
I went to a Catholic High School, even though I wasn't Catholic.

The Principal was a Marist Brother. He was a really nice guy, and he was very popular.

Up until my Senior year where he molested a 15 yr old boy on Camp.

It was fucked up in more ways that one. I know people shouldn't let them affect you, but it kinda makes me ..... well I have no interest in returning for the School Reunion. I'm not exactly proud to have gone there.

12 years of education for something like that to happen.

Of course, too many people can brush it aside merrily.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 05, 2011, 02:20:09 PM
@ Dave: Shit, Dude, that's fuckin' tough, man. If I may ask, what happened to the molester: arrested, de-frocked or quietly moved somewhere else? To have one's trust broken in such a fashion is, I imagine, a catastrophic blow - that will echo throughout one's life. Was the victim given all the help possible? If replying to this brings back memories you'd rather not air that's okay, man. I would (although I hesitate to offer any advice, would seem rather arrogant of me) say that it sounds as if you had a decent enough time there (up until the incident) and that you got yourself a good education. It may all feel tainted and useless but maybe the sands of time will blow some of the hurt and betrayal away long enough for you to spy a long lost moment of happiness or joy: gleaming away, in the hope that you'll pick it up and treasure it again . . maybe, you know. Thanks for sharing, Dude, abide.

(Will respond to the rest later on today or tomorrow - my girls are currently making a play date for the park on the phone).  ::)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Tripnastic on June 05, 2011, 06:38:07 PM
When we retrieved our luggage yesterday, we saw that the Mexican TSA (don't know what it's actually called) had ripped the zipper pulls off of my wife's bag, and broke both zippers.  She had a lock on, but it was one of the approved locks that all airports have the universal keys for. 

I wouldn't have even cared if they cut the lock off for some reason, but they just snapped the zippers instead to get a look inside.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 06, 2011, 03:44:55 PM
The title of this thread is "fuckin' fascists (of the week)" - I put up a link to a story (that caught my eye) about the Catholic Church throwing stones at the counter-culture movement of the 60's - 70's (and the 'sexual revolution') and citing the flowering of the flower people as the cause in the "spike" of child rape within the church. I thought it might be of interest to Dudeists/hippies. Here's a small part of it:

The study, undertaken by John Jay College of Criminal Justice (PDF) at the request of America?s Catholic bishops, links the spike in child abuse by priests in the 1960s and 70s to the importance given to young people and popular culture along with the emergence of the feminist movement, a singles culture and a growing acceptance of homosexuality. It also cites crime, drugs, an increase in premarital sexual behavior and divorce.

You see, the gist of the article is that the Catholic Church is looking for answers outside their walls - looking to lay blame elsewhere instead of just doing the Christian (and lawful) thing of handing over the guilty. Now, it can look for answers in society and lay some kind of trip on the rest of us as long as they (again) hand over the guilty - this would, of course, include the Pope. My responses all relate, funnily enough, to the Catholic Church - that is what the article is about. I am not going to go over the same ground (as far as I can see it is self-evident: if you are a Roman Catholic then you believe in Papal infallibility then you are admitting that child-raping priests are not guilty of a crime; therefore you are a paracunt - and if not a believer in child abuse then a protector of rapists), the crux of the matter is pederast priests -  I just hope you see how that works.

The larger issue for you may be the use of the word "cunt"  - it seems to be, from your responses - while it's something of a bummer that you choose to be upset by that I choose not to be. I choose the larger issue. Now I don't care if you carry your vagina/penis in a purse, sport it on your forehead or even call yourself a trans-human - who gives a fuck, this is the Dudeist Forum - we try to be all inclusive (save for pederasts and their supporters). Maybe you think your gender re-alignment affords you a deeper  insight into the hurtful nature of the word - you could be right. The word is hurtful, it is something of a shocker - that can sometimes be the nature of dissent.

As stated, the issue for me is that the guilty, in this matter,  are called to account. I understand that the late pope was a pederast protector, too ( well, let's face it - they all have been); they are in the process of making him a Saint  (was the finding and killing of Bin  Laden his first 'miracle' or second?), imagine that: Saint of Pederasts(?) What message here? Better to protect the fabric of the church than the body of a child. Never underestimate the power of structured religion over the minds of the superstitious.

The Catholic Church has a (approx) membership of 1 billion, 150+ million (that's a pretty big chunk of humanity); all of whom, presumably believe in Papal infallibility (otherwise they would belong to a dissident Catholic movement, would they not?).  That's a sixth (or so) of the world's population that have been indoctrinated (you don't have to be a believer, I guess - you just have to stay a member to be a paracunt) into the belief that priests who rape are not guilty of committing a crime. That very fact alone should be enough to bring the whole church down - but it ain't enough ( at least the atheists attempted to arrest the Pope - where were all the Christians?) - who knows what is(?) Never underestimate the power of structured religion over the minds of the superstitious.

Yeah, so who knows what it will take but here's one avenue of exploration: dissent. These responses are part of my dissent (yes, I deliberately used controversial language); I will use whatever language I choose in my dissent: paracunt, bad person, pederast sympathisers - what have you - to make it clear that, until they hand over the rapists and their protectors they are beneath my contempt. That's my issue, my dissent.

I look forward to the day when the Catholic church becomes all- inclusive. I keenly await the day they hand over the guilty, apologize and give their wealth to the poor. I look forward to the day when they agree that Papal infallibility is nonsense - heck, I look forward to the day that they become Christian.

As to me judging others, well - a pederast is a pederast in a club that says it's okay so forgive me, I'll call "over the line" on that one and if you are a still member of that club then you are guilty, too. As to me being "over the line" - well, what can I say: I was uncomfortable on your side of the line. As to me being a hater - phew! that really does sound exhausting. You may be right, though - tune in to the next episode when I tear the flowers (especially those fuckin' holier than thou Lillies) a new arse-hole.

                          (http://i.imgur.com/d9YG5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on June 06, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Yo cakedude, very cool stuff there, man. Interesting reading. "a pederast protector" ...fucking eh right!
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on June 06, 2011, 06:40:41 PM
@Rev Cakes

Whow!!! Thumbs up dude...I wish I had half the writing ability you posses.....whow....blown away dude.

Very eloquent and totally what I would have said if I could have even thought that far!

I've been saying this for years but not as well!

Whow....
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on June 06, 2011, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: FuckinA on June 04, 2011, 02:08:32 AM
Yeah, well, I think the only problem in Cakebelly's post is that he uses the term 'the catholics'. That's not the preferred nomenclature here dude! make it "some fascists within the catholic church' or something. There way more good people in the church...

There are good people in the Catholic church, but I think its sad that the people didn't take control of their church and kick the living shit out of the priests who had molested children and kick the shit out of ANYONE protecting them. The problem is that most people in the Catholic church, IMHO, are brain washed into believing bullshit like the Pope is some kind of absolute representative for God on earth and cannot be punished for what hew does. He is in fact nothing more than a religious dictator with his head up his ass a lot of the time. In reality, he's no one special, no more than anyone else. Fuck the asshole if he protects hard core criminals like child molesters.

If you are a true Catholic then take your church back, dude; demand that these sick fucks who molested children get whats coming to them. As far as I know, NOT ONE of these fucking pederasts has gone to jail for what they have done. There is simply NO excuse for what these perverted sick fucks have done. They should be in jail, NOT protected by a corrupt church. No church should be protecting child molesters.

That's just like my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 06, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 04, 2011, 11:12:16 PM


As far as "cunt," the use of the word to refer to a woman or a woman's anatomy in a derogatory way is still pretty common. Yes, it has plenty of other uses, even in the "backward" USA. You want to use it--that's up to you--but to me, it's part of the whole hating women thing, which I think is alive and well in the US and world-wide.

.... The line I draw--for myself--is that I don't like to hear words that refer to a woman or a part of a woman as an insult, and when I do and if it seems like the thing to do, I'll state my opinion. ...

When "cunt" is used to mean something or someone nasty, I do feel personally offended. ...



Respectfully snipped...

For me (having lived my entire life as a woman), it's not what's being said, but how it's being said...personally, I can tolerate "fuck", "Cunt", or any other derogatory label all day long-- but I start to get squeamish at "gay" and "faggot", and I positively get the vapors over "nigger".

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Call me a hypocrite, but when it comes to the protection of children, you just keep on hatin', cuntbelly  ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 06, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on June 06, 2011, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: FuckinA on June 04, 2011, 02:08:32 AM
Yeah, well, I think the only problem in Cakebelly's post is that he uses the term 'the catholics'. That's not the preferred nomenclature here dude! make it "some fascists within the catholic church' or something. There way more good people in the church...

There are good people in the Catholic church, but I think its sad that the people didn't take control of their church and kick the living shit out of the priests who had molested children and kick the shit out of ANYONE protecting them. The problem is that most people in the Catholic church, IMHO, are brain washed into believing bullshit like the Pope is some kind of absolute representative for God on earth and cannot be punished for what hew does. He is in fact nothing more than a religious dictator with his head up his ass a lot of the time. In reality, he's no one special, no more than anyone else. Fuck the asshole if he protects hard core criminals like child molesters.

If you are a true Catholic then take your church back, dude; demand that these sick fucks who molested children get whats coming to them. As far as I know, NOT ONE of these fucking pederasts has gone to jail for what they have done. There is simply NO excuse for what these perverted sick fucks have done. They should be in jail, NOT protected by a corrupt church. No church should be protecting child molesters.

That's just like my opinion, man.

... and mine too, man (arms thrown up into the air, victory howl ensues) !  ;)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on June 07, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
Quote from: Busmum on June 06, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 04, 2011, 11:12:16 PM


As far as "cunt," the use of the word to refer to a woman or a woman's anatomy in a derogatory way is still pretty common. Yes, it has plenty of other uses, even in the "backward" USA. You want to use it--that's up to you--but to me, it's part of the whole hating women thing, which I think is alive and well in the US and world-wide.

.... The line I draw--for myself--is that I don't like to hear words that refer to a woman or a part of a woman as an insult, and when I do and if it seems like the thing to do, I'll state my opinion. ...

When "cunt" is used to mean something or someone nasty, I do feel personally offended. ...



Respectfully snipped...

For me (having lived my entire life as a woman), it's not what's being said, but how it's being said...personally, I can tolerate "fuck", "Cunt", or any other derogatory label all day long-- but I start to get squeamish at "gay" and "faggot", and I positively get the vapors over "nigger".

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Call me a hypocrite, but when it comes to the protection of children, you just keep on hatin', cuntbelly  ;D

Ahhh, its the Goddess of Oat Sodas (AKA the GOOS). Good to see you here, dude! What's been happening? Hope all is dude-like in your abiding.   ;D  Good words, by the way.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 06:53:32 AM
Ah, I've been lurking mostly my friend- too exhausted by the man to play on the ol' lappie these days >:(

Working with stroppy cunts makes it hard to abide ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:49:36 AM
Actually, a whole lot of Catholics don't believe in Papal infallibility. They go about their merry way using birth control, engaging in premarital sex, having same-sex partners, etc.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:49:36 AM
Actually, a whole lot of Catholics don't believe in Papal infallibility. They go about their merry way using birth control, engaging in premarital sex, having same-sex partners, etc.
... and converting to other religions... I asked a formerly catholic work mate today   8)
;D ;D


Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 02:52:10 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:49:36 AM
Actually, a whole lot of Catholics don't believe in Papal infallibility. They go about their merry way using birth control, engaging in premarital sex, having same-sex partners, etc.
... and converting to other religions... I asked a formerly catholic work mate today   8)
;D ;D




Yeah, a lot of ex-Catholics out there.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 06, 2011, 09:29:00 PM

For me (having lived my entire life as a woman), it's not what's being said, but how it's being said...personally, I can tolerate "fuck", "Cunt", or any other derogatory label all day long-- but I start to get squeamish at "gay" and "faggot", and I positively get the vapors over "nigger".


Yeah, sometimes it's the way it's been said, and sometimes it's the word itself. Since I stated my problems with "cunt," it's been used over and over by different posters. I realize it's been sometimes used in a supportive way (however, not of my point of view), but most times it seems to me like as it was meant in a hostile way, as if to say, well, you don't like it, then fuck you, I'll say it as much as I damn please. Basically, I feel like a piece has been pulled out on the lane. 
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on June 07, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
I'll accept your point there Outer and could see how you you might take mine and others use of the word cunt as a direct dig at you. But I don't think that's the case.

My use of the word cunt in my post is because it's the most vile, degrading, filthy word I know and wholly and completely describes the bastards I was referring to.

Cunt is not misogynist unless it is being aimed at a woman.

Nigger (and I do  not apologise as I am using a word and not referencing) is not racist if it is aimed at a caucasion. (sic) :)

Hope this clears things up at least from me. I have no problem disagreeing with a point and remaining civil but I don't think there is any uncalled for aggression here man.

Peace
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 07, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
I'll accept your point there Outer and could see how you you might take mine and others use of the word cunt as a direct dig at you. But I don't think that's the case.

My use of the word cunt in my post is because it's the most vile, degrading, filthy word I know and wholly and completely describes the bastards I was referring to.

Cunt is not misogynist unless it is being aimed at a woman.

Nigger (and I do  not apologise as I am using a word and not referencing) is not racist if it is aimed at a caucasion. (sic) :)

Hope this clears things up at least from me. I have no problem disagreeing with a point and remaining civil but I don't think there is any uncalled for aggression here man.

Peace

Thanks, Caesar dude. I did not feel like you were attacking me, and appreciate your mellow posture. And while I disagree, in part, with your points regarding undue aggression and cunt not being misogynist unless it's directed at a woman, I can accept that this is your opinion. So we're cool.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 05:48:56 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 07, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
I'll accept your point there Outer and could see how you you might take mine and others use of the word cunt as a direct dig at you. But I don't think that's the case.

My use of the word cunt in my post is because it's the most vile, degrading, filthy word I know and wholly and completely describes the bastards I was referring to.

Cunt is not misogynist unless it is being aimed at a woman.

Nigger (and I do  not apologise as I am using a word and not referencing) is not racist if it is aimed at a caucasion. (sic) :)

Hope this clears things up at least from me. I have no problem disagreeing with a point and remaining civil but I don't think there is any uncalled for aggression here man.

Peace

Thanks, Caesar dude. I did not feel like you were attacking me, and appreciate your mellow posture. And while I disagree, in part, with your points regarding undue aggression and cunt not being misogynist unless it's directed at a woman, I can accept that this is your opinion. So we're cool.

Were you feeling attacked? If so, I'm sorry-- just enjoying the conversation/banter.

Remember when "niggardly" meant selfish?
;)

Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on June 07, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
QuoteRemember when "niggardly" meant selfish?

Yeah and when baa baa black sheep was a nursery rhyme.

Words and their use and inference change over generations and over time....maybe the most innocuous word of the 21st Century will be abhorrent in the 22nd.

To paraphrase the NRA "it's not words that hurt people, it's people that hurt people."

Peace dudes
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 05:48:56 PM

Were you feeling attacked? If so, I'm sorry-- just enjoying the conversation/banter.

Remember when "niggardly" meant selfish?
;)



I appreciate your condolences, Busmum. It was more a combination of attacked and lack of support. I remember "niggardly" and also "nigger-rigged." Don't know if you have that expression in the UK (that's where you are, right?).
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 07, 2011, 05:22:11 PM
I'll accept your point there Outer and could see how you you might take mine and others use of the word cunt as a direct dig at you. But I don't think that's the case.

My use of the word cunt in my post is because it's the most vile, degrading, filthy word I know and wholly and completely describes the bastards I was referring to.

Cunt is not misogynist unless it is being aimed at a woman.

Nigger (and I do  not apologise as I am using a word and not referencing) is not racist if it is aimed at a caucasion. (sic) :)

Hope this clears things up at least from me. I have no problem disagreeing with a point and remaining civil but I don't think there is any uncalled for aggression here man.

Peace

Thanks, Caesar dude. I did not feel like you were attacking me, and appreciate your mellow posture. And while I disagree, in part, with your points regarding undue aggression and cunt not being misogynist unless it's directed at a woman, I can accept that this is your opinion. So we're cool.


Yeah... remember you can always report to the moderator if you feel the agression is over the line...
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 08:10:39 PM

Thanks--guess I'd rather try to sort it out first.

Yeah... remember you can always report to the moderator if you feel the agression is over the line...
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
Well, I wanna watch-- I love a good sorting!
;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 05:48:56 PM

Were you feeling attacked? If so, I'm sorry-- just enjoying the conversation/banter.

Remember when "niggardly" meant selfish?
;)



I appreciate your condolences, Busmum. It was more a combination of attacked and lack of support. I remember "niggardly" and also "nigger-rigged." Don't know if you have that expression in the UK (that's where you are, right?).

Actually, I'm a yank, but I'm married to a brit... which is why I understand the usage of the"c-word" and his intent ;)

...and I'm an educator, so I really get my hackles raised when it comes to kids. My work mate told me today that one time, one of the nuns at her school refused to let her go to the toilet--she "pooped her pants" and they wouldn't let her go home and change...had to sit there for the rest of the day to "learn her lesson".

That's one of the reasons why she left the fold, and not even the most compelling one.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 09:17:47 PM
Systemic abuse isn't always sexual- but kids can't get away like adults can. :(
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: Busmum on June 07, 2011, 09:12:48 PM

Actually, I'm a yank, but I'm married to a brit... which is why I understand the usage of the"c-word" and his intent ;)

...and I'm an educator, so I really get my hackles raised when it comes to kids. My work mate told me today that one time, one of the nuns at her school refused to let her go to the toilet--she "pooped her pants" and they wouldn't let her go home and change...had to sit there for the rest of the day to "learn her lesson".

That's one of the reasons why she left the fold, and not even the most compelling one.

I know a few Catholics and ex-Catholics, and am also a teacher. I've heard a lot of stories about parochial schools and also the Catholic church--ridiculous stuff. I doubt that even one of the people I know who remains Catholic would hesitate to report an incident that caused harm to a child once they knew about it or even suspected it. That's why I don't like it when all Catholics are being put in the same category as Catholic leaders who are perpetrators or who protect perpetrators. I'm also pretty sure that there are tons of Catholic priests who wouldn't harm kids in any way. And there are plenty of people trying to change the Catholic church from within.

I recently heard a speaker at a spirituality conference who said that she had witnessed a lot of infighting between activist groups working on the same problem in different ways. This was an LGBT activist in particular, and a minister. She listed 4 different approaches to creating change, all valid in her view. She felt that they all need to be employed, and I agree with her. Secession is only one of the ways that can be effective.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Dave on June 07, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 05, 2011, 02:20:09 PM
@ Dave: Shit, Dude, that's fuckin' tough, man. If I may ask, what happened to the molester: arrested, de-frocked or quietly moved somewhere else? To have one's trust broken in such a fashion is, I imagine, a catastrophic blow - that will echo throughout one's life. Was the victim given all the help possible? If replying to this brings back memories you'd rather not air that's okay, man. I would (although I hesitate to offer any advice, would seem rather arrogant of me) say that it sounds as if you had a decent enough time there (up until the incident) and that you got yourself a good education. It may all feel tainted and useless but maybe the sands of time will blow some of the hurt and betrayal away long enough for you to spy a long lost moment of happiness or joy: gleaming away, in the hope that you'll pick it up and treasure it again . . maybe, you know. Thanks for sharing, Dude, abide.

(Will respond to the rest later on today or tomorrow - my girls are currently making a play date for the park on the phone).  ::)

From what I know, the Molester dropped out of the Brotherhood, ended up marrying one of the female teachers??? and went to the USA for sex addiction treatment???  He was later charged with what he did.   Details are sketchy because the Church mainly keeps it out of the papers. The Media helps keep this shit silent.

I didn't know much about the victim, but the other day when I mentioned our ex-principal to a former school mate on facebook, he sent me a private message saying that dude is now his Brother in Law!  

Apparently the dude was really bitter about the Catholic Church, and my mate wanted to know why, and dude confided that it was him that got molested.

Whatever the institution, the 'victim' always comes off second best.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
I knew someone for awhile who got molested by a nun. Now, that angle doesn't make the headlines.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Outer Element on June 08, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:37:24 PM

I've heard a lot of stories about parochial schools and also the Catholic church--ridiculous stuff.


I just want to clarify that what I meant by "ridiculous" was "ridiculously fascist." No child should be treated in the ways that we're talking about here.

Parochial students came into the public schools in grade 9 in my home town, and they had a reputation of being "trouble-makers"--although I'm sure not all of them were, and there certainly students of the wild variety who had only attended public schools. I'm inclined to think that mistreatment by authority figures and too many nonsensically strict rules had a lot to do with this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: FuckinA on June 09, 2011, 12:02:32 PM
Wow, lot of stuff going on about one post about "all catholics" and "not being the preferred nomenclature" man! But I get the drift, and I agree with most of it.
Anyway, about fucking fascists: how bout parking controlers? (I don't know how you call them in the USA but I mean the fucks who go around waiting 'till your car is parked one minute too long and give you a fine!
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: meekon5 on June 09, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
I knew someone for awhile who got molested by a nun. Now, that angle doesn't make the headlines.

There is a lot more Female pedophiles coming to light, and it seems to shock the general public that such a thing can exist.

even this article starts from the premise that most are male:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8022861.stm

But this has been raising doubts:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/may/26/breaking-female-paedophilia-ring-review

(or http://www.channel4.com/programmes/breaking-a-female-paedophile-ring)

Again i think females may have gotten away with this for longer because of the cultural doubt, and (back to one of my favourite topics) like female husband beaters, the endemic culture ridicules the abused individual, for instance see the number of articles in the gutter press almost praising one teacher or another for having an affair with a student, instead of questioning the ethics and whether it is actually an abusive relationship.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 27, 2011, 05:12:32 PM
From what I know, the Molester dropped out of the Brotherhood, ended up marrying one of the female teachers??? and went to the USA for sex addiction treatment???  He was later charged with what he did.   Details are sketchy because the Church mainly keeps it out of the papers. The Media helps keep this shit silent.

I didn't know much about the victim, but the other day when I mentioned our ex-principal to a former school mate on facebook, he sent me a private message saying that dude is now his Brother in Law!  

Apparently the dude was really bitter about the Catholic Church, and my mate wanted to know why, and dude confided that it was him that got molested.

Whatever the institution, the 'victim' always comes off second best.



Sorry it has taken me awhile to respond, Dude - blimey, small world; glad the fucker got what was coming to him. That probably doesn't make the victim feel any better, though. Hopefully he'll be able to purge the bad memories and get on with his life happily. Thanks for responding.

@ Outer Limit: There may be those who think they are changing the system from within - well, good luck with that. There may be those who say they are opposed to the non-action of the hierarchy (in this matter) and yet remain in the Church and have a few coffee mornings to discuss (or pray) for change. Okay, good luck with that, too. You may all get together every second week, sit round a campfire and sing kumbaya and congratulate each other on your radical views. Such pathetic reaction, IMO (see what I did there?), changes and serves nothing. Well, I guess it serves to help hold the children down while they are being molested - for all the good it does. It may, however, help when combined with a more direct dissent: to  create a wave of repulsion that swells and rises to a tsunami of righteous indignation that will strike against the walls of their palaces (Christian palaces, I ask you I thought  the only temple Jesus required was the temple of the body faithful ) and bring them crashing down. Jesus was pissed-off enough to lose his inner-Dude at the money-lenders. Imagine what he's do (or say) to child-rapists. Would he sing a few rounds of kumbaya or get his ass-kicking sandals on? I don't think, when he said: 'suffer the little children to come unto me" it was so he could rape them.  Is it really radical to use the word "cunt" in such circumstances? Surely it's just a pebble of dissent hurled at the (apparently) impregnable walls of the Catholic Bastille. Let the kumbayas continue, let the murmurs grow to a sustained hum of contempt and let those who would protest in other ways surf that wave as they will. Do try to avoid suggesting others are haters because they choose (in the matter of child rape) to protest in their own way; as if there is a fucking rule book when it comes to pederasty and those who have taken holy orders. Same lines and laws for everyone.

Now I'll say it one more time (with a slight compromise): if you are a Roman Catholic and are not engaged in some form of dissent at your church's official position on rapists then you are a paracunt. If you feel you have been personally attacked then you have not been reading carefully enough. You have choices to reset your upset: accept that this is just my opinion, ignore the posts completely  or just say 'fuck it' and go bowling.

@M5 - You are quite right there are as many female abusers as there are male.
@Busmum - You are quite right, abuse isn't always sexual.

Any Christian who is not a hero is a pig Leon Bloy
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 27, 2011, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on June 09, 2011, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: Outer Element on June 07, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
I knew someone for awhile who got molested by a nun. Now, that angle doesn't make the headlines.

There is a lot more Female pedophiles coming to light, and it seems to shock the general public that such a thing can exist.

...respectfully snipped...

Again i think females may have gotten away with this for longer because of the cultural doubt, and (back to one of my favourite topics) like female husband beaters, the endemic culture ridicules the abused individual, for instance see the number of articles in the gutter press almost praising one teacher or another for having an affair with a student, instead of questioning the ethics and whether it is actually an abusive relationship.

quite right meekon5... i think that female molesters have always been there... but when you're a 14 yr old boy with jiz to spare... we, as a society, tend to view that boy as rather lucky, instead of a victim. i mean really--he just got his rocks off by someone other than himself! woot!

humor aside, the adult in question is a very sick person; using their position of authority to achieve sexual gratification (regardless of the gender roles) is just plain wrong. it's interesting to note that in my school district, more females have been fired for sexually inappropriate behavior than men in the last 10 years-- and the victims were both male and female. believe me, these assholes were not praised for their activities in any way, shape, or form. the number of teachers fired for this type of conduct should be zero. less then zero, even! >:(

food for thought.

...and...er... what color panties are you wearing, hmmmmm?  ;)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 27, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 27, 2011, 05:12:32 PM
From what I know, the Molester dropped out of the Brotherhood, ended up marrying one of the female teachers??? and went to the USA for sex addiction treatment???  He was later charged with what he did.   Details are sketchy because the Church mainly keeps it out of the papers. The Media helps keep this shit silent.

I didn't know much about the victim, but the other day when I mentioned our ex-principal to a former school mate on facebook, he sent me a private message saying that dude is now his Brother in Law! 

Apparently the dude was really bitter about the Catholic Church, and my mate wanted to know why, and dude confided that it was him that got molested.

Whatever the institution, the 'victim' always comes off second best.



Sorry it has taken me awhile to respond, Dude - blimey, small world; glad the fucker got what was coming to him. That probably doesn't make the victim feel any better, though. Hopefully he'll be able to purge the bad memories and get on with his life happily.

@ Outer Limit: There may be those who think they are changing the system from within - well, good luck with that. There may be those who say they are opposed to the non-action of the hierarchy (in this matter) and yet remain in the Church and have a few coffee mornings to discuss (or pray) for change. Okay, good luck with that, too. You may all get together every second week, sit round a campfire and sing kumbaya and congratulate each other on your radical views. Such pathetic reaction, IMO (see what I did there?), changes and serves nothing. Well, I guess it serves to help hold the children down while they are being molested - for all the good it does. It may, however, help when combined with a more direct dissent. It may help create a wave of repulsion that swells and rises to a tsunami of righteous indignation that will strike against the walls of their palaces (Christian palaces, I ask you I thought  the only temple Jesus required was the temple of the body faithful ) and bring them crashing down. Jesus was pissed-off enough to lose his inner-Dude at the money-lenders. Imagine what he's do (or say) to child-rapists. Would he sing a few rounds of kumbaya or get his ass-kicking sandals on? I don't think, when he said: 'suffer the little children to come unto me" it was so he could rape them.  Is it really radical to use the word "cunt" in such circumstances? Surely it's just a pebble of dissent hurled at the (apparently) impregnable walls of the Catholic Bastille. Let the kumbayas continue, let the murmurs grow to a sustained hum of contempt and let those who would protest in other ways surf that wave as they will. Do try to avoid suggesting others are haters because they choose (in the matter of child rape) to protest in their own way; as if there is a fucking rule book when it comes to pederasty and those who have taken holy orders. Same lines and laws for everyone.

Now I'll say it one more time (with a slight compromise): if you are a Roman Catholic and are not engaged in some form of dissent at your church's official position on rapists then you are a paracunt. If you feel you have been personally attacked then you have not been reading carefully enough. You have a choice to reset your upset: accept that this is just my opinion, ignore the posts completely and go on about your day or just say 'fuck it' and go bowling.

@M5 - You are quite right there are as many female abusers as there are male.
@Busmum - You are quite right, abuse isn't always sexual.

Any Christian who is not a hero is a pig Leon Bloy

rock on, dude... rock fuckin' on!  ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on June 27, 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: FuckinA on June 09, 2011, 12:02:32 PM
Wow, lot of stuff going on about one post about "all catholics" and "not being the preferred nomenclature" man! But I get the drift, and I agree with most of it.
Anyway, about fucking fascists: how bout parking controlers? (I don't know how you call them in the USA but I mean the fucks who go around waiting 'till your car is parked one minute too long and give you a fine!

well, yeah... you got a point. but they're shitty little cunts, not evil cunts  ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on June 28, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
Nah, what would our towns and cities be like without Traffic Wardens/Parking Controllers? They don't get my vote.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: FuckinA on July 01, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
Then it depends on the town I think... Here they are fucking fascists!
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on July 04, 2011, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on June 04, 2011, 05:35:07 PM
@ Cakebelly

To use the Facebook term. If their was a like button here I would have clicked it! - -

In peace Reverends!!!!!

Doh! I am so slow,CD - yeah, it sure is a bit strange that there ain't a Facebook 'Like' button on this thread. Isn't it? Maybe not.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: A.B. Dude on July 06, 2011, 08:33:28 PM
Now I know everyone's on about rapists and pedophiles, but this topic is about fascists of the week. So here's mine:

Some human paraquat pulled leaves off of my lettuce plants in my garden! It wasn't a rabbit or some marmot or something like that. The leaves were torn and stolen. These fucks pissed on my rug today, man. My garden is my bowling alley--it's what helps me to stay Dude. Listening to Creedence and pulling up weeds, watching plants grow, and just general abiding.

But this fuckin guy, I mean, this aggression will not stand, man! I can understand being broke and needing food--which is one reason I grow my own vegetables. But damn. That lettuce would have really tied the dinner table together, you know?
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cckeiser on July 06, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
Damn,sorry to hear about your troubles dude.
Maybe they thought it was Wild Lettuce? ???
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on July 06, 2011, 11:02:16 PM
Fuckers, Dude: food you have grown destined for your table - way over the line.  >:(
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:08:55 AM
@cckeiser

No fuckin way they could have thought that. It was a plot in the community gardens, where there are large signs that say "The food grown in these plots belong to the plot renters" because there have been plenty of rug pissers in the past years.

@cakebelly

Yeah, man. I applied for a food card through the state assistance office but they refused me twice. How people with no jobs can live off welfare while I work two jobs and still can't afford groceries is something I can't understand. So I said fuck it, dude, and started growing my own food.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on July 07, 2011, 01:20:25 AM
Growing your own food - a very dudely way to tie one's life together - while, at the same time, gently sticking it to the man. Something we Dudes should think about - well, those lucky enough to be able to scratch about in a plot of land. Networking, local markets, seed exchanges - endless nutritious possibilities, Dudes.


http://www.nsalg.org.uk/ (http://www.nsalg.org.uk/)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Fuckin' A, man. I've been meaning to make a topic about it, but I'm still pretty new and didn't want to end up putting it in the wrong spot.  But even if you don't have your own plot of land, there are often community garden opportunities. Here in my town, I rented a 15x15' plot for the summer months for only $15.

I know that on my most undude days that my garden usually helps me to put things in perspective. Fishing is also a great way to say "fuck it", chill, and have a few oat sodas.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 07, 2011, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Fuckin' A, man. I've been meaning to make a topic about it, but I'm still pretty new and didn't want to end up putting it in the wrong spot.

No worries, dude. If you post something in the wrong section, we can always move it. Dudes on this forum are pretty damn good at keeping things on topic, but no worries if you make a mistake. Fuck it, man, let's just get us a lane.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: meekon5 on July 07, 2011, 07:43:33 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on July 07, 2011, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Fuckin' A, man. I've been meaning to make a topic about it, but I'm still pretty new and didn't want to end up putting it in the wrong spot.

No worries, dude. If you post something in the wrong section, we can always move it. Dudes on this forum are pretty damn good at keeping things on topic, but no worries if you make a mistake. Fuck it, man, let's just get us a lane.

There's a structure to where we have to put threads?

Wow i did not know that.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cckeiser on July 07, 2011, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on July 07, 2011, 07:43:33 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on July 07, 2011, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Fuckin' A, man. I've been meaning to make a topic about it, but I'm still pretty new and didn't want to end up putting it in the wrong spot.

No worries, dude. If you post something in the wrong section, we can always move it. Dudes on this forum are pretty damn good at keeping things on topic, but no worries if you make a mistake. Fuck it, man, let's just get us a lane.

There's a structure to where we have to put threads?

Wow i did not know that.

Shit dude...neither did I! ???
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on July 07, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Shit, this morning I was fantasizing about a Dudeist farm co-op, could set something up in Maine. Try and figure a way to let city Dudes contribute some how.

Damn, that doesn't sound fascist enough, do we need to move that post? Rules are rules, am I wrong?
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 07, 2011, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on July 07, 2011, 07:43:33 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on July 07, 2011, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: A.B. Dude on July 07, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
Fuckin' A, man. I've been meaning to make a topic about it, but I'm still pretty new and didn't want to end up putting it in the wrong spot.

No worries, dude. If you post something in the wrong section, we can always move it. Dudes on this forum are pretty damn good at keeping things on topic, but no worries if you make a mistake. Fuck it, man, let's just get us a lane.

There's a structure to where we have to put threads?

Wow i did not know that.

Is this...what day is this?  ;D
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: meekon5 on July 08, 2011, 06:59:50 AM
Quote from: revgms on July 07, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Shit, this morning I was fantasizing about a Dudeist farm co-op, could set something up in Maine. Try and figure a way to let city Dudes contribute some how.

Damn, that doesn't sound fascist enough, do we need to move that post? Rules are rules, am I wrong?

Possibly on the same level certain Tibetan Buddhist establishments work, let the city Dudes come down to the farm for religious retreats and let them act as lay brothers who just work around the farm where and when it's needed.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: A.B. Dude on July 10, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
Here's my fascist of the week.

Lady plants a vegetable garden in her front yard. Neighbors complain and cite city ordinance. She could face 93 days in jail. FOR GROWING FOOD.

That's just not right, man.

Link: http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/07/does-michelle-obama-know-about-this/
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on July 10, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
QuoteLady plants a vegetable garden in her front yard

Whow!!! Land of the free huh!


I this was earlier in the year I wouldn't fall for your April fool joke!


Good luck with that one Mr Prosecutor!

Peace and incredulity dudes!
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: BikerDude on July 11, 2011, 08:44:38 AM
When I lived in Canada for a while the development I lived in had a lot of odd "ordinances".  Not really laws but just sort of neighborhood brown shirts nazi crap.
They had a handful of colors that you were "allowed" to use on your house.
I crap you negative. If you wanted to paint any portion of your home you needed to use the approved colors.
I was renting, but if I owned a house there, I'd have painted it tiger stripe camo just to give the freaking Nazi's a pain.
Mostly the Canadians are a very cool bunch but this little neighborhood was very very twin peaks.
Soccer mom androids.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on July 11, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Un-fuckin'-believable - I'm kinda lost for words on this one A.B. Dude, yeah, those assholes get my vote for Fuckin' Fascists of the Week.

One thing I have always found not only odd but insanely offensive is that where I live (Brit Dudes won't believe this)  in this part of SoCal you can't hang washing out to dry (would look unsightly). Yeah, we have to use a machine when the sun is boiling the freakin' air we breathe. Fuck environmental and power issues - can't have the neighborhood looking unsightly. In fact I don't think the locals would know what a clothesline was.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Caesar dude on July 11, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
In Germany you can't hang out your washing or mow your lawn on a Sunday....they like to keep it peaceful one day a week! :)
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: DigitalBuddha on July 11, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on July 11, 2011, 04:02:11 PM
In Germany you can't hang out your washing or mow your lawn on a Sunday....they like to keep it peaceful one day a week! :)


At least it's an ethos.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: A.B. Dude on July 11, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
I can't think of anything more peaceful than enjoying an oat soda on a fine day, watching the laundry dry on the line and watching the vegetables grow.

But that's just like my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: Busmum on July 12, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on July 11, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Un-fuckin'-believable - I'm kinda lost for words on this one A.B. Dude, yeah, those assholes get my vote for Fuckin' Fascists of the Week.

One thing I have always found not only odd but insanely offensive is that where I live (Brit Dudes won't believe this)  in this part of SoCal you can't hang washing out to dry (would look unsightly). Yeah, we have to use a machine when the sun is boiling the freakin' air we breathe. Fuck environmental and power issues - can't have the neighborhood looking unsightly. In fact I don't think the locals would know what a clothesline was.

of course the locals know what a clothesline is... it's what they use to tie up their dogs and kids to the front gate... ::)

... and you can hang your laundry up-- in that rat-infested fuckhole of a community laundry room, right next to the lovely smelling dumpsters. :-\
Title: Re: Fuckin' Fascists! (of the week)
Post by: cakebelly on July 12, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Busmum on July 12, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on July 11, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Un-fuckin'-believable - I'm kinda lost for words on this one A.B. Dude, yeah, those assholes get my vote for Fuckin' Fascists of the Week.

One thing I have always found not only odd but insanely offensive is that where I live (Brit Dudes won't believe this)  in this part of SoCal you can't hang washing out to dry (would look unsightly). Yeah, we have to use a machine when the sun is boiling the freakin' air we breathe. Fuck environmental and power issues - can't have the neighborhood looking unsightly. In fact I don't think the locals would know what a clothesline was.

of course the locals know what a clothesline is... it's what they use to tie up their dogs and kids to the front gate... ::)

... and you can hang your laundry up-- in that rat-infested fuckhole of a community laundry room, right next to the lovely smelling dumpsters. :-\

Yeah, so that would be 'inside' then . .