Been throwing around the idea of typeing up my own dudeist books...
I got some down what ya think....
We are all one way or another part of the machine.
But yet, What is a cog that refuses to turn.
What is a belt that refuses to move.
well that... Well that is a dude.
One who relizes that life is more then stuff.
It's more then reachin for society's goals
It is more then being a cog in the machine.
In a world were society tries to dictate every thing about you.
What you were, What you want to be, How to live.
What not to smoke, Don't drink to much, Get a job you bum.
Why can't it just let a dude abide, In a world were hate in standerd.
Were reactinaries succced becouse they react. And the dude..
Well the dude abides, And nothing pisses the machine of more.
Then a dude who can abide.
Quote from: JonseyMcFly on March 18, 2011, 06:02:54 AM
...What is a cog that refuses to turn.
What is a belt that refuses to move.
well that... Well that is a dude....
At the risk of being confrontational (yeh right):
If all the world (universe) is a machine then it's everyone else that are the cogs and belts trying to move against the motion, the Dudeist not just the Dude as I don't agree with personification of the religion in a single person, the Dude is not my messiah, "If you see the Dude on the Street kill him!", The Dudeist is the one element that is not fighting against the Tao, but is flowing with it.
Though I will agree about it not being a cog in the machine, but only if the machine is the capitalist machine where your only worth is the amount you consume.
Quote from: meekon5 on March 18, 2011, 07:22:31 AM
If all the world (universe) is a machine then it's everyone else that are the cogs and belts trying to move against the motion, the Dudeist not just the Dude as I don't agree with personification of the religion in a single person, the Dude is not my messiah, "If you see the Dude on the Street kill him!", The Dudeist is the one element that is not fighting against the Tao, but is flowing with it.
The machine as i refer to is is a definition of world capitalist society. Consume, Conform, Reproduce.
Quote from: JonseyMcFly on March 18, 2011, 07:53:34 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on March 18, 2011, 07:22:31 AM
If all the world (universe) is a machine then it's everyone else that are the cogs and belts trying to move against the motion, the Dudeist not just the Dude as I don't agree with personification of the religion in a single person, the Dude is not my messiah, "If you see the Dude on the Street kill him!", The Dudeist is the one element that is not fighting against the Tao, but is flowing with it.
The machine as i refer to is is a definition of world capitalist society. Consume, Conform, Reproduce.
You have to be careful with statements of what your Dudeism is:
Quote from: digitalbuddha on March 18, 2011, 02:55:10 AM
The problem is that the dude you are talking about thinks that there is only one form of dudeism ... that would presuppose that Dudeism is one thing, and one thing only; a single set of "dudeism principles" and a "single catechism" to be followed.
In reality, dudeism is fluid and different for each dude; it is as unique as each dude is. ...
I get that your trying to define your Dudeism for your self but see no use in My Dudeism is this conversations.
Sorry.
I re-read this and it seems a lot harsher than it's meant.
What I'm trying to say is don't bother yourself in statements of what you are (and Your Dudeism is this) and just dive into the forum and join in some of the conversations, I think its there that the real "My view on Dudeism" actually comes out, in the interaction and interplay of the different people as we crash off each others ideas and slowly begin to polish the rough ideas into a way of being.
There again myself coming from a Zen Taoist background, Dudeism is about what you do.
The spoken Dudeism is not the true Dudeism, the empty vessel makes the most noise.
He says making loads of noise as usual.
Abide, communicate, be, don't preach.
Quote from: JonseyMcFly on March 18, 2011, 06:02:54 AM
Been throwing around the idea of typeing up my own dudeist books...
I got some down what ya think....
We are all one way or another part of the machine.
But yet, What is a cog that refuses to turn.
What is a belt that refuses to move.
well that... Well that is a dude.
One who relizes that life is more then stuff.
It's more then reachin for society's goals
It is more then being a cog in the machine.
In a world were society tries to dictate every thing about you.
What you were, What you want to be, How to live.
What not to smoke, Don't drink to much, Get a job you bum.
Why can't it just let a dude abide, In a world were hate in standerd.
Were reactinaries succced becouse they react. And the dude..
Well the dude abides, And nothing pisses the machine of more.
Then a dude who can abide.
Welcome to the forum dude!
It's just like my opinion dude, but I would like to think all opinions are welcome...just as long as we know they are just like our opinions.
Like Rev Meekon5 points out...Dudeism is all about none preachiness! ;D
Pull up a rug dude and smoke em if you got em! 8)
Well, ok, we are all part of 'The Machine', but we need to not refuse to turn, but simply find a way of turning that's more beneficial. A machine does indeed only work if all the parts function as needbe, but some of them can sometimes slow down and in turn the machine will slow as well.
Gah, I'm fed up with that metaphor, I'm confusing myself :P I said all I needed to on this very subject here: http://dudespaper.com/dudeciples-and-the-pan-dudeian-nation.html/
Essentially, I agree with the spirit of the statement, Jonsey :) We all have a part to play, but we get to dictate our own function and how best to benefit society without playing ball with the 'almighty overlords' as they deem themselves (aka, The Man :))
Welcome aboard, the bar's... err... another metaphor, man ;)
I just get in my nickers every know an then to philosohyz..
Just thought i would share..
And I wasnt referring to *the dude* as a single person, I was using it to reffer to the collective of all dudes. Wether dudeists or not.
But yea. It's just like my opinion man...
Whow Jonsey dude...Meekon just opened a can of whoopass on your philosophy! :o
Whatever happened to abide?
I'm not taking sides btw....
Peace dude and welcome.
Fuck it dudes...lets go bowling! ;D
Quote from: cckeiser on March 18, 2011, 11:06:38 PM
Fuck it dudes...lets go bowling! ;D
Sounds good to me...
First round of Caucasians on me.
Sorry JonseyMcFly my barks worse than my bite.
It just seemed that some Dude had just walked into my favourite bar stood on a table and started shouting the odds.
Articles to the Dudespaper. I'm sure Rev Ed and some of the others can give you some tips.
Welcome to the forum, any rug in the place, bars over there.
;D
Quote from: meekon5 on March 19, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
Sorry JonseyMcFly my barks worse than my bite.
It just seemed that some Dude had just walked into my favourite bar stood on a table and started shouting the odds.
Articles to the Dudespaper. I'm sure Rev Ed and some of the others can give you some tips.
Welcome to the forum, any rug in the place, bars over there.
;D
It's all good, I wouldnt of posted my opinion if i didnt want other's opinion on it.
Quote from: JonseyMcFly on March 21, 2011, 06:58:43 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on March 19, 2011, 06:44:01 PM
Sorry JonseyMcFly my barks worse than my bite.
It just seemed that some Dude had just walked into my favourite bar stood on a table and started shouting the odds.
Articles to the Dudespaper. I'm sure Rev Ed and some of the others can give you some tips.
Welcome to the forum, any rug in the place, bars over there.
;D
It's all good, I wouldnt of posted my opinion if i didnt want other's opinion on it.
If you want opinions we certainly got plenty of those on this here forum.
;D
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
If you want opinions we certainly got plenty of those on this here forum.
;D
I don't, but that's just my opinion.
Quote from: Banjo Dude on March 23, 2011, 06:56:01 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on March 23, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
If you want opinions we certainly got plenty of those on this here forum.
;D
I don't, but that's just my opinion.
I know i've had mine alot lately. lotta heinous vibes and undudelike thoughts. trying to purge it out and get back to the stress free dudeliness i try and support. thanks to all my fellow dudes who remind me of what we were all here for.
"gooooosfrabbbah"
What makes a Dudeist, Mr. Lebowski? A pair of metaphysical suppositions....
Tend to agree with my compeer, Meekon. A few years back (about 10 years after that situation with that camelfucker in Iraq) I fell into Taoism with a dash of Zen (this was after my infamous Ayn Rand stage...well, at least it was an ethos).
Anyway, since i see dudeism through that lens, it's really a modernized retelling of the taoist,-zen tradition with maybe a little of the Greek Cynics, Epicureans and even a bit of The Jesus (the original Jesus..Not the compromised second draft)..especially the Gnostic Jesus (Gospel of Thomas).
So I guess what I'm blathering about is that Dudeism is not a religion or belief system that stands alone.... more of a continuation or distillation (like a fine batch of Kahlua) of a valued human tapestry..very much like a rug that can be peed on by getting too uptight in thinking about it or even labeling (which is what I just did...).
BTW, do you find that watching TBL widened your vocabulary? Micturate? Compeer? etc.??
"The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name."
I like Dudeism because it fits so well with Do No Harm.
Abiding = Doing no harm
Doing no harm = Abiding.
It's a journey not a destination.
And it all starts and leads back to the movie.
I dig it because it exists on many levels. And there are lots and lots of ins and outs.
Anybody ever investigate Theodore Herzl?
Phenomenology. Wow.
"Will it and it is so." As Walter says.
It's not for no reason.
It's in there. The golden path. Lotta strands. Lotta ins and outs.
Nihilistic Tendencies in Psychology and the Phenomenology of Off-Color Jokes
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/nihilistic.html
Dude time is on .... it is clicking ..... on my side.... right on by me Dude...