I mean cmon. What other film has spawned a religion and multiple yearly festivals as well as such a devoted legion of fans as the achievers?
I expect that the Coens will be following up.
I mean it. I can feel it in the air.
Quote from: BikerDude on January 13, 2011, 02:28:57 PM
I expect that the Coens will be following up.
I mean it. I can feel it in the air.
Well, dude, we just don't know. Many a fine dude has called for a TBL II, but the brothers Coen have yet to let any new shit come to light. You got any leads?
A TBL II would be far fucking out, mang.
I heard a maybe from one source.
And DB, Jedi, yeah they are about at the same level as us, well there are two Jedi, one from Star Wars, but our man Jeff did it twice, because Men Who Stare at Goats also has a quasi religious following.
Quote from: revgms on January 13, 2011, 03:55:02 PM
, because Men Who Stare at Goats also has a quasi religious following.
Huh, did not know that - shall check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWw9QzvTCQ
Well Dudes, I don't know, I really don't know.
They would take chances if they did a TBL II, wouldn't they?
There's a high risk. Expectations would be high. It's difficult - maybe not possible, to do such a thing on purpose. You know what I mean? The "I" would interfere.
But then again, the CBs are, er, uh, kind of ... unpredictable, aren't they?
Faithfully BE
I gotta be honest dudes, I don't think I would want that. It's pristine now and my expectations would just be too high. No way anyone could produce something in reality that's been put to such a high standard in our imaginations.
Yeah, Trip, I think I go along with you on this.
Well the best concept I heard so far was, "The Jesus, the Second Coming", more spin off than sequel. The Lebowskian sites have the inside info on that.
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWw9QzvTCQ
Fucking A dude! Outstanding work my man! :D 8)
Shit dudes, and we just got finished writing The Little Lebowski!
Quote from: cckeiser on January 13, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Shit dudes, and we just got finished writing The Little Lebowski!
Seeds of a fan film maybe?
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 13, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on January 13, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Shit dudes, and we just got finished writing The Little Lebowski!
Seeds of a fan film maybe?
Yeah, I think that is what The Lennon is working on right now. Not sure, but the Koog meister may be working with The Lennon on turning The Little Lebowski script into a fan film.
That just may get the Coen Bros attention!!
In the late 60's and early 70's the trekkie world sent an uncompromising set of letters (by the thousands) to the nihilists of Hollywood demanding more Star Trek.
That raddled the cages and got the attention of the decision makers who are always thinking about feeding the monkey and "Star Trek Phase Two" was born. It was going to be a following up on the original series that went from 1966 to 1969.
(http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/10/bridge.jpg)
Although "Phase Two" never made it to TV airwaves, the letter campaign did help bring about "Star Trek, The Motion Picture" in 1979 (using much of the design concepts from "Phase Two" production plans). The rest is Trek history.
In 1987 Star Trek, The Next Generation, finally did make it to the boob tube, mainly due to the success of the series of movies.
(http://sharetv.org/images/star_trek_the_next_generation-show.jpg)
;D I would dig zesty coitus with Counselor Troy.
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Although I would dig seeing a well written and produced TBL II, and I think it would be worth the risk of making one (it could turn out to be a Hollywood compromised piece of shit), I would puke my guts out if they tried to turn it into a weekly TV show, or as in the case of Star Trek; a cartoon! OVER THE LINE!
Perhaps a 21st century letter writing campaign (email, YouTube vids interviewing dudes who want to see a TBL II, website for people to sign a petition, updates, etc.) would be effective?
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Fucking A dude! Outstanding work my man!
Thanks, Dude - seemed an appropriate moment to put that link there ;D
@ DB - Sounds like a good idea - if you're keen for a sequel - but exhausting.
Chances are, if there is a chance for cash then something is already being mulled-over - those rich fuckers (these days) don't miss a trick, man. :D
Quote from: cakebelly on January 14, 2011, 01:23:30 AM
@ DB - Sounds like a good idea - if you're keen for a sequel - but exhausting.
Chances are, if there is a chance for cash then something is already being mulled-over - those rich fuckers (these days) don't miss a trick, man. :D
Yeah, cake dude, true; for a community of slackers, it would be a monumental effort. Is this, what day is this? ;D
IMO: I feel I should add, at the risk of coming across as a killjoy, that I really don't care if they make a sequel or not. Oh, sure - I would probably see it (or wait for pay per view); if it was good, yeah cool - if bad, so what? As you said, DB - if they do it we can take it or leave it, no biggy. I understand that it would be fun if they did but frankly it would just muddy the waters. I can see the Forum now "Compromised second draft!" / "Bullshit! New Testament" / "Maybe we should accept both films and lah-di-dah". We certainly don't need another movie from Hollywood. What I would like to see are (don't like the term) fan-films. Something original by Dudes for Dudes.
Edit:
And while we are on the subject of films: will somedude please make a freakin' video for the Abideist Channel! I could learn a lot and not be bored by my own dreary offerings. Fire-Dude Dave made one (lovely piece - great tune, serene visuals, dudely):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8BUJTPnpJM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8BUJTPnpJM)
I agree with Cake.
There is a great little documentary "Werner Herzog eats his shoe" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081746/) do see it to understand it.
But Herzog makes a statement where he says if you want to make a film go and do it, steal the film stock and camera's if you have to, but go and do it.
More films are being made by "normal" people and Hollywood is beginning to feel the bite like the record industry dinosaurs.
Make it distribute it and cut out the neolithic middle men that should have died out years ago, who under estimate Americas (and the worlds) intellect and persist in re-making dumbed down versions of what where very good films but they think people wont have seen them because people don't do subtitles.
Soap box down and walking away with hands up.
Wow dudes, some excellent Dude think here.
Guess I'll just sit back and do a J, watch the ball roll and mark it as it is. Ya' know, abide.
It would be cool to see some fan films, and I certainly dig the style of our own Little Lebowski crew, and I hope they throw some serious rocks with their efforts.
Cheers
Quote from: cakebelly on January 14, 2011, 11:41:48 AMWhat I would like to see are (don't like the term) fan-films. Something original by Dudes for Dudes.
You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)
Dig your concept of "Something original by Dudes for Dudes." Fucking eh!
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...
Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.
they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.
@M5 - well said, I'll note the Herzog thing and make some time (sometime) to check it out, thanks for the tip.
@Didge - thanks, yeah - check out Fire Dude Dave's video. Oh, and Dudes, if you have a You Tube account and you know of another Dude on there; comment on their videos, fave them if you like them. We can use this resource - add another strand to the rug, dudes. Hi, Revgms - welcome on board the Abideist Channel - got any videos, Dude?
I should like to start off a Video Thread but I don't really know much about the medium (well, nowt really). However, I'd like to encourage Dudes to sign up with You Tube (yeah, they are assholes) - we can, I think, use it to our advantage. As M5 commented: just do it.
Don't over-think it. Claim some of that net space.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 14, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...
Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.
they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.
Ha! Just had a thought inspired by your comment on Ford Prefect; I wonder if Ford could have been played by Jeff Bridges in his dude like persona? Would it have worked? Was the character of Ford, as written by Adams, dude like enough to have the dude fit in?
Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 14, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...
Yeah man, that was a pisser (The League); laughable, bush-league symbolism with Sawyer saluting Allan Quatermain's grave (death of the Brit Empire - rise of the American - but still Anglo-Saxon - Empire). Fuck, no wonder Alan Moore washed his hands of it.
Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.
they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.
Oops, fucked that up: Yeah man, that was a pisser (The League); laughable, bush-league symbolism with Sawyer saluting Allan Quatermain's grave (death of the Brit Empire - rise of the American - but still Anglo-Saxon - Empire). Fuck, no wonder Alan Moore washed his hands of it.
Links to watch movies/short films online: http://www.ubu.com/film/ (http://www.ubu.com/film/)
http://www.openculture.com/freemoviesonline (http://www.openculture.com/freemoviesonline)
http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/a-z (http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/a-z)
http://www.theworldcinematheque.com/TheworldcInemateque.com/World_Cinematheque.html (http://www.theworldcinematheque.com/TheworldcInemateque.com/World_Cinematheque.html)
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:29:29 PM
...Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.
Now I have to agree LOTR was excellent, but they couldn't leave that alone either could they (what was that shite with the Warg riders attacking the refugees from Edoras on the way to Helm's Deep).
Actually though it is the closest to the original (see the cartoon version (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077869/)).
I actually feel I gave almost seven years of my life to this set of films from the first time i heard the rumours they were making them.
I must ask though, are they so good because of hollywoods intervention, or despite hollywoods intervention and the backbone Steve Jakson held in stopping them messing with it too much (but do see the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_film_trilogy) pages for the huge amount of variation from the original)?
Quote from: meekon5 on January 17, 2011, 06:11:18 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:29:29 PM
...Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.
Interesting point on the Wargs, M5, going to have to go back and re-read that section again. Did you ever hear the BBC Radio Drama version? I posted a link to a torrent for a 13 part stereo adaptation done in the 80's. It's nothing short of awesome, mang!
Now I have to agree LOTR was excellent, but they couldn't leave that alone either could they (what was that shite with the Warg riders attacking the refugees from Edoras on the way to Helm's Deep).
Actually though it is the closest to the original (see the cartoon version (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077869/)).
I actually feel I gave almost seven years of my life to this set of films from the first time i heard the rumours they were making them.
I must ask though, are they so good because of hollywoods intervention, or despite hollywoods intervention and the backbone Steve Jakson held in stopping them messing with it too much (but do see the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_film_trilogy) pages for the huge amount of variation from the original)?
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 17, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
...interesting point on the Wargs, M5, going to have to go back and re-read that section again. Did you ever hear the BBC Radio Drama version? I posted a link to a torrent for a 13 part stereo adaptation done in the 80's. It's nothing short of awesome, mang!..
Hear it Man! I actually have a poster of the original broadcast. BBC Radio 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(1981_radio_series)). Ian Holme Actually playing Frodo. A true Classic.
Sundays, used to be the business, sitting there doing my homework listening to whatever book they had decided to dramatise next, excellent.
Well, there's a rumor: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what)
Quote from: cakebelly on February 01, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Well, there's a rumor: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what)
Sorry but typical bloody Hollywood, leave it alone! Just because the first was so good doesn't mean you can do the same again.
Oh and Tara Reid "I googled it!" Yep that's always a good way to get reliable info on anything! ;D
Quote from: cakebelly on February 01, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Well, there's a rumor: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what)
How are you going to keep em' down on the farm with a TBL II rumored? As pointed out by M5; "part twos" usually suck, but if this is true, it would be interesting to see what the brothers Coen come up with if it isn't all piss on a rug.
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;D Will she still offer services for a mere $1000.00?
(http://bricksandstonesgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tara-reid-villa-drunk.jpg)
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 01, 2011, 02:57:10 PM
...How are you going to keep em' down on the farm with a TBL II rumored? As pointed out by M5; "part twos" usually suck, but if this is true, it would be interesting to see what the brothers Coen come up with if it isn't all piss on a rug...
DB you assume they are going to give it to the Brothers C. Isn't it usual Hollywood crap to piss off the original directors and just give it to an also ran!
Quote from: meekon5 on February 02, 2011, 05:29:14 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 01, 2011, 02:57:10 PM
...How are you going to keep em' down on the farm with a TBL II rumored? As pointed out by M5; "part twos" usually suck, but if this is true, it would be interesting to see what the brothers Coen come up with if it isn't all piss on a rug...
DB you assume they are going to give it to the Brothers C. Isn't it usual Hollywood crap to piss off the original directors and just give it to an also ran!
Very true but would the Coens take it on - am I just projecting when I assume that they would consider any kind of sequel as artistically beneath them?
Quote from: meekon5 on February 02, 2011, 05:29:14 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 01, 2011, 02:57:10 PM
...How are you going to keep em' down on the farm with a TBL II rumored? As pointed out by M5; "part twos" usually suck, but if this is true, it would be interesting to see what the brothers Coen come up with if it isn't all piss on a rug...
DB you assume they are going to give it to the Brothers C. Isn't it usual Hollywood crap to piss off the original directors and just give it to an also ran!
That does happen sometimes, but in many cases (such as TLOTR), Peter Jackson directed all three movies. But I think you are correct in your observation that Hollywood has a long time reputation in fucking up a good thing, especially when corporate execs and bean counting accountants take over. Nothing ever changes. Again; it's like Lenin said, "you look for the person who benefits."
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 02, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
...That does happen sometimes, but in many cases (such as TLOTR), Peter Jackson directed all three movies. But I think you are correct in your observation that Hollywood has a long time reputation in fucking up a good thing, especially when corporate execs and bean counting accountants take over. Nothing ever changes. Again; it's like Lenin said, "you look for the person who benefits."
Do remember LOTR was pitched as all three films in one go, look at the Aliens series of movies and how many directors they had:
Alien (1979) Ridley Scott
Aliens (1986) James Cameron
Alien 3 (1992) David Fincher
Alien: Resurrection (1997) Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
Quote from: meekon5 on February 03, 2011, 08:50:38 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on February 02, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
...That does happen sometimes, but in many cases (such as TLOTR), Peter Jackson directed all three movies. But I think you are correct in your observation that Hollywood has a long time reputation in fucking up a good thing, especially when corporate execs and bean counting accountants take over. Nothing ever changes. Again; it's like Lenin said, "you look for the person who benefits."
Do remember LOTR was pitched as all three films in one go, look at the Aliens series of movies and how many directors they had:
Alien (1979) Ridley Scott
Aliens (1986) James Cameron
Alien 3 (1992) David Fincher
Alien: Resurrection (1997) Jean-Pierre Jeunet.
TLOTR in one movie? That would have been one long movie or a very abbreviated story line. Have the Alien series, always love a good "ghost in the dark" sci-fi thriller. All of the movies were good which is unusual. It might have been better to have new director on each movie, mix things up a bit. I wonder what a TBL II would be like if the brothers Coen didn't direct?
Klaus, and the godson from hell (his boy) and I did the three extended versions in a row one weekend. A true fan weekend. ;D
Quote from: meekon5 on February 04, 2011, 01:30:19 AM
Klaus, and the godson from hell (his boy) and I did the three extended versions in a row one weekend. A true fan weekend. ;D
Kick ass! Love a good movie marathon! All you need is good food, good beer and hot entertainment center. Very dude like!