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Title: What the States stand for
Post by: brother_erwin on January 12, 2011, 03:18:59 PM
Hi Dudes,
I understand there's some concern here and elsewhere too about the political climate and the international image of the US.

Now, neither do I want to belittle anything nor do I want to re-create a myth about how wonderful everything is or was.

Still, for me the US also stand for another tradition, and as I have stated in another thread, for freeing us from the evil of national socialism.

So I would like to open this new thread about the other, and I dare say, better face of what the US may well stand for. And recently I came across this, and it fucking impressed me.

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/20/86-year-old-wwii-vet.html

Perhaps you dudes would like to add something to it.

Yeah, man, what do you think?

Faithfully
BE

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Uberdude on January 12, 2011, 03:32:37 PM
PURE AWESOMENESS!!!!!!!  I was having a shitty day thanks to my fucking Fascist landlord.  That made me feel better.  Thanks!
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: brother_erwin on January 12, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
You're welcome, Uberdude! Most welcome.
How can one debate a guy who went through that.

BE, Faithfully
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Uberdude on January 12, 2011, 04:17:38 PM
Exactly!!!
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on January 12, 2011, 04:38:07 PM
Yeah I remember this, I was engaged in the fight to allow gay marriage in ME, I just moved there and could not vote, but I did what I could.

I don't know what to tell ya Dudes, some where along the way too many have lost the vision of what America was born to be.

There seems to be two Americas, one that is part of human social evolution, and another seems to be hellbent on going back to feudalism, the latter America has a name, murca. Yeah mang I don't live there, in murca.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: brother_erwin on January 13, 2011, 03:11:06 AM
Yea, revgms I know what your point is but what is the connection to Murca?  Like, the small place in Portugal  ???
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on January 13, 2011, 07:00:44 AM
Naw, it is what we call crazy nationalistic, haters from America, over at the Colbert Nation. It is a play on the word American, Murcan.

Like people from America would never use depleted uranium as an ordinance, at least not willy nilly, like the Murcans did in Iraq. That sort of thing. Murcans are racist throw backs to an earlier time in our evolution.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: SenatorTso on January 13, 2011, 01:43:22 PM
So.Damn. This, mang.

Glad I caught this thread today.

I've been going around and around with my dad in emails. As he gets older, he's getting more and more Murcan like. This is a guy who went against the grain and would teach swimming lessons to the kids of migrants who'd roll thru town, saying, "Doesn't matter if their parents are illegal or not. They're kids. And I'm not going to risk one of them drowning at a lake or pool while their folks work. Not on my wawtch." All my growing up years he was very liberal, very progressive. Now that he's retired he believes every fool email that comes down the pike his way.

Glad to see some sense being spoken.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: brother_erwin on January 13, 2011, 04:07:23 PM
@revgms: Thanks, man, one lives and learns  :)

@Senator: Sounds like you Pa used to be a very cool dude. What, do you think, would he think about Philipp Spooner?

Faithfully BE
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: SenatorTso on January 13, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
@Brother Erwin - Yeah he was *way* more Dudeish back in the day. Heck, when I asked him about gays in general/in the service specifically once, he said, "I was raised in a time when it was seen as immoral. You were raised in an era that is much more understanding. And your kids will be raised in one more enlightened than you can ever imagine."  Very aware of his place and time, man.

If he saw Mr Spooner, he'd probably nod his head and say it was an honorable thing he did, speaking like that. Pop is a Vietnam Vet and as a rule, doesn't speak ill of people who serve, since such a large number of our elected officials never have. Raised me to respect them too; telling me while I was a kid, "If you ever see someone with one of these, (badges, pins, that show they were in Viet Nam), I'm asking you to shake that person's hand and tell them Welcome Home."  Later, he asked if I'd do the same to people my age who are serving overseas, because he doesn't think they get the attention and care they deserve. Walter would dig my Pop.

Anyway, I don't mean to be long winded. The long and the short of it is, he's now more politically aware now that he's retired. I was just as full of piss and vinegar during the previous administration and if someone told me back then that the President walked on water, I'd tell you it was because he was too stupid to swim. When I look at it from that more Dude-like "Well, that's just your opinion, Man," perspective, I see that I was once where he is now (just on the other side of the fence) and I know eventually he'll come around to believing they're all a bunch of rug pissers.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: brother_erwin on January 17, 2011, 03:06:18 PM
Thankee for your reply, Senator.
Yeah, let's hope the Dude's spirit reaches all - hopefully sooner than later!

Faithfully BE
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: ozzy85 on February 09, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
I think the U.S.A. stands for United Sales of America.

Unfortunately.

Wish it weren't so.
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: jellebowski on February 09, 2011, 10:33:17 PM
Good to see that there's still some sence in the US.
I'm Belgian, working in a hotel and sometimes, man, sometimes these Murcas give us a look like we're all communist babyeaters or something. It's been awhile since I've seen that other face of the States. Glad to know you dudes are abiding, man :)
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 06:11:44 AM
Personally as a dedicated cannibal infanticide myself I feel

Quote from: jellebowski on February 09, 2011, 10:33:17 PM
...communist babyeaters or something...

is a bit insulting.

Such a stereotype, we're not all communists.

;D
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: ozzy85 on February 09, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
I think the U.S.A. stands for United Sales of America.

Unfortunately.

Wish it weren't so.

USI, United States Incorporated.
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on February 10, 2011, 07:35:48 AM
Thing is, over here, when you point out how America could be better by not making so many mistakes, others accuse you of being un American. Like when I say we should not be using depleted uranium weapons, some accuse me of hating America.

Why do some think you're great only if you're the biggest assholes on the planet?

And we are not all greedy, still have a pretty strong Dude/hippie community here, just the lame stream media finds us boring. I mean shit, there are more Buddhists in America than Muslims, but you wouldn't know that from watching TV.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 07:50:45 AM
Interesting comment from Nigel Marsh (http://www.nigelmarsh.com/books/index.html) in this TED vid (http://www.ted.com/talks/nigel_marsh_how_to_make_work_life_balance_work.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2011-02-08&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email).

Quote from: Nigel Marsh

We can change societies definition of success away from the moronically simplistic notion the person with the most money when he dies wins. To a more thoughtful and balance definition of what a life well lived looks like.

Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: Rev. Gary (revgms) on February 10, 2011, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 07:50:45 AM
Interesting comment from Nigel Marsh (http://www.nigelmarsh.com/books/index.html) in this TED vid (http://www.ted.com/talks/nigel_marsh_how_to_make_work_life_balance_work.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2011-02-08&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email).

Quote from: Nigel Marsh

We can change societies definition of success away from the moronically simplistic notion the person with the most money when he dies wins. To a more thoughtful and balance definition of what a life well lived looks like.

AKA Dudeist philosophy, LOL
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: revgms on February 10, 2011, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 07:50:45 AM
Interesting comment from Nigel Marsh (http://www.nigelmarsh.com/books/index.html) in this TED vid (http://www.ted.com/talks/nigel_marsh_how_to_make_work_life_balance_work.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2011-02-08&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email).

Quote from: Nigel Marsh

We can change societies definition of success away from the moronically simplistic notion the person with the most money when he dies wins. To a more thoughtful and balance definition of what a life well lived looks like.

AKA Dudeist philosophy, LOL

See it rears it's ugly head in all quarters.
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: jellebowski on February 10, 2011, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 06:11:44 AM
Personally as a dedicated cannibal infanticide myself I feel

Quote from: jellebowski on February 09, 2011, 10:33:17 PM
...communist babyeaters or something...

is a bit insulting.

Such a stereotype, we're not all communists.

;D
my point exactly, dude! ;D
Title: Re: What the States stand for
Post by: ozzy85 on February 12, 2011, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on February 10, 2011, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: ozzy85 on February 09, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
I think the U.S.A. stands for United Sales of America.

Unfortunately.

Wish it weren't so.

USI, United States Incorporated.

lol, no kidding.

Still, I'm glad we get to believe the way we want without much bother.  In fact, "alternative" religions, beliefs, what have you seem to be on the rise here.  Free your mind, your ass will follow.