Dudes,
Just watching BBC3 "How Drugs Work: Cannabis" this evening, watch it if you can.
What a complete bunch of propaganda, anti cannabis use, using such phrases as ~" the thc hijacks the synapses like a terrorists".
Really badly put together and one sided.
I am sorry but I have become more and more disillusionment with the BBC and their "science" program's.
What used to be a really good source of unbiased information has reduced itself to really low brow over simplification of the subject they are trying to represent.
As someone with Multiple Sclerosis, I can say that any anti-cannibis campaign is a load of shit. It's not legal in my state medically, but when I have been able to partake it has helped more than any drug the doctor has tried to give me and does not destroy my organs. But, hey, that's just , like, my own personal experience, man...
Quote from: meekon5 on January 10, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
"the thc hijacks the synapses like a terrorists"
My last oat soda did that. ;D
...............mind if I burn a J?
Quote from: meekon5 on January 10, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
Dudes,
Just watching BBC3 "How Drugs Work: Cannabis" this evening, watch it if you can.
What a complete bunch of propaganda, anti cannabis use, using such phrases as ~" the thc hijacks the synapses like a terrorists".
Really badly put together and one sided.
I am sorry but I have become more and more disillusionment with the BBC and their "science" program's.
What used to be a really good source of unbiased information has reduced itself to really low brow over simplification of the subject they are trying to represent.
That's disappointing from the BBC - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though; they've been 'dumbing' down for some time. Obviously I don't get BBC tv over here (BBC America is dire) but I have to say, even when I did have the opportunity to watch BBC3, I was never very impressed with it. It's target audience is for the 20 somethings, I think and they patronize the hell outta them. BBC4 was usually okay, though.
Check out............................
Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded
http://breakthematrix.com/alternatives/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif)
For all you dude like scholars.....................
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-284.html
Sample............
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp25.jpg)
Fig. 25. The "hemp house" under construction on the Oglala Lakota Nation (Pine Ridge Reservation), South Dakota. Foundation blocks for the house are made with hemp fiber as a binder in cement. Stucco is also of hemp. Shingles are 60% hemp in a synthetic polymer. Hemp insulation is used throughout. (Courtesy of Oglala Sioux Tribe, Slim Butte Land Use Association, and S. Sauser.)
Best of both worlds; hemp oat sodas.........
(http://hemporio.mary-jo.eu/files/catalog/birre.jpg)
http://www.mary-jo.eu/home_eng.html
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 10, 2011, 11:32:03 PM
Check out............................
Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded
http://breakthematrix.com/alternatives/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif)
For all you dude like scholars.....................
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-284.html
Sample............
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp25.jpg)
Fig. 25. The "hemp house" under construction on the Oglala Lakota Nation (Pine Ridge Reservation), South Dakota. Foundation blocks for the house are made with hemp fiber as a binder in cement. Stucco is also of hemp. Shingles are 60% hemp in a synthetic polymer. Hemp insulation is used throughout. (Courtesy of Oglala Sioux Tribe, Slim Butte Land Use Association, and S. Sauser.)
Best of both worlds; hemp oat sodas.........
(http://hemporio.mary-jo.eu/files/catalog/birre.jpg)
http://www.mary-jo.eu/home_eng.html
Wow dude! Thanks for all the info and links!
Good stuff!
Quote from: cckeiser on January 10, 2011, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 10, 2011, 11:32:03 PM
Check out............................
Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded
http://breakthematrix.com/alternatives/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif)
For all you dude like scholars.....................
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-284.html
Sample............
(http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp25.jpg)
Fig. 25. The "hemp house" under construction on the Oglala Lakota Nation (Pine Ridge Reservation), South Dakota. Foundation blocks for the house are made with hemp fiber as a binder in cement. Stucco is also of hemp. Shingles are 60% hemp in a synthetic polymer. Hemp insulation is used throughout. (Courtesy of Oglala Sioux Tribe, Slim Butte Land Use Association, and S. Sauser.)
Best of both worlds; hemp oat sodas.........
(http://hemporio.mary-jo.eu/files/catalog/birre.jpg)
http://www.mary-jo.eu/home_eng.html
Wow dude! Thanks for all the info and links!
Good stuff!
Fucking eh, dude. You're welcome.
Quote from: cakebelly on January 10, 2011, 11:22:09 PM
That's disappointing from the BBC - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, though; they've been 'dumbing' down for some time. Obviously I don't get BBC tv over here (BBC America is dire) but I have to say, even when I did have the opportunity to watch BBC3, I was never very impressed with it. It's target audience is for the 20 somethings, I think and they patronize the hell outta them. BBC4 was usually okay, though.
Horizon used to be brilliant.
I find it too has been considerably dumbed down.
I don't know if it's because I have become more informed as I get older or if it is the BBC have re-targeted their perfect audience.
It is probably an element of both - I guess if you have more channels you can target your audiences a bit more (similar to their radio stations). However, there is no denying that the great majority of their programing is shite. However, I still think it's worth the license fee (just) when you consider the national and local radio coverage as well as the TV. I still think that the BBC is a great cultural achievement - but then I could just be suffering from a case of sentimentality. Not happy to hear of their recent spout of anti-marijuana propaganda, though.
Was BBC bought by Fox news recently?
Something is fucked here Dudes!
Why do they insist on retarding science and decent society?
It is 100% asinine to allow alcohol and cigarettes and not the scientifically proven SAFER alternative, cannabis. I have already made the case else where, it is legitimate and right to call prohibitionists retards, as they are retarding human social evolution. It is not defamation if it's true.
QuoteHorizon used to be brilliant.
Horizon has not been brilliant for many years now...it used to be cutting edge with information and technology that was brand new...and delivered as such. I remember watching it as part of lectures "the bullseye war" springs to mind.
It used to be a programme that was unbiased and gave equal time to both sides leaving the viewer to make up his mind (or totally confused!) It now seems to have an agenda which can be spotted at the outset.
I used to watch Horizon knowing I was going to be amazed....I now watch the first ten minutes to see if I will be entertained. Sad.
Cake I am beginning to doubt the worth of the license fee.
Too many cheap "reality" programs fill the tv stations (I understand the economics, it is cheaper to put a camera crew into a persons living room, than it is to budget for costumes, actors, script writers, and sets, for a period drama).
revgms Murdoch has bought everything else, he owns ninety percent of the news papers in the UK, and has been allowed to bid for a bigger part of BSkyB. There's too many prominent police and doctors beginning to back the case to legalise "drugs".
Caesar I'm just turning into one of those old gits that sit and shout at the telly in the evening. Over xmas I watched a program on the BBC about xmas trees, it was entirely wrong and left out so many historical details. I was livid.
Murdoch deserves the Pornographer of the year award.
We are starting to kick ass over here across the pond, the reform movement is getting huge. People are challenging this stupidity at every chance now, they couldn't seat a jury, because everyone said they would be unwilling to convict any one on a pot possession, Colorado has already started collecting tax revenue from pot sales, and Maine just issued the first lic to sell Medical.
2012, the prohibition policy will be torn down. States are jumping of the fail train like crazy, the fed has to wake up soon.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 11, 2011, 05:06:52 PM
Cake I am beginning to doubt the worth of the license fee.
Paying for shit like reality TV would get old fast. Too much more of that shit (like they have puked all over American TV/Cable) and I would be shouting OVER THE LINE! Not to mention; where's the fuckin' money BBC?!!
Yeah it's hard to feel sorry for you BBC guys, after the way they dumbed down our Tv including so called learning channels.
For the most part I just avoid TV these days, DVR man, catch that one out of a hundred worth seeing.
Quote from: revgms on January 11, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Yeah it's hard to feel sorry for you BBC guys, after the way they dumbed down our Tv including so called learning channels.
For the most part I just avoid TV these days, DVR man, catch that one out of a hundred worth seeing.
Yeah, like "Ice Truckers" on the History Channel." I'm cool with truck drives, gotta have em', or no shit in the stores. Their art has been commended as being highly necessary, but who the fuck decided that watching a bunch of dudes driving trucks, drinking beer and cussing each other out over the CB was educational? Or even history for that matter? WTF?!
The History Channel has got to be the most dumbed down channel around.
Quote from: revgms on January 11, 2011, 06:46:46 PM
Murdoch deserves the Pornographer of the year award.
We are starting to kick ass over here across the pond, the reform movement is getting huge. People are challenging this stupidity at every chance now, they couldn't seat a jury, because everyone said they would be unwilling to convict any one on a pot possession, Colorado has already started collecting tax revenue from pot sales, and Maine just issued the first lic to sell Medical.
2012, the prohibition policy will be torn down. States are jumping of the fail train like crazy, the fed has to wake up soon.
Yesterday at leagues one of the guys just got off jury duty and told us during the selection process when they asked if anyone approved of pot just about everyone raised their hand!!
Fuckin' a dudes if everyone refuses to convict for possession or selling pot what good are the laws against?
If they will not let us vote on it, we will win it in the courts by protest!
If you're on a jury...vote your conscience.
Quote from: cckeiser on January 12, 2011, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: revgms on January 11, 2011, 06:46:46 PM
Murdoch deserves the Pornographer of the year award.
We are starting to kick ass over here across the pond, the reform movement is getting huge. People are challenging this stupidity at every chance now, they couldn't seat a jury, because everyone said they would be unwilling to convict any one on a pot possession, Colorado has already started collecting tax revenue from pot sales, and Maine just issued the first lic to sell Medical.
2012, the prohibition policy will be torn down. States are jumping of the fail train like crazy, the fed has to wake up soon.
Yesterday at leagues one of the guys just got off jury duty and told us during the selection process when they asked if anyone approved of pot just about everyone raised their hand!!
Fuckin' a dudes if everyone refuses to convict for possession or selling pot what good are the laws against?
If they will not let us vote on it, we will win it in the courts by protest!
If you're on a jury...vote your conscience.
Fucking far out! My hand would go up. Good point; if everyone refused to convict, the law would be a useless limp dick.
On the other hand, the majority of the public consistently in polls taken believes that hemp should be legal and that continual prohibition of this highly useful plant to be stupid, counterproductive, hysterical and based in ignorance; ergo - if we are supposed to be a democracy, and we create laws and public policy based on majority rule, why is hemp illegal?
So much for democracy.
Since when has the majority decided the policy concerning hemp?
I think someone already mentioned this elsewhere: if voting could actually change anything it would be illegal.
I think that was Emma Goldman
I think we all pretty much know how it works. And now with 100% electronic voting...with no paper trail...well...fuckin' human paraquats!
Quote from: cckeiser on January 12, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
I think someone already mentioned this elsewhere: if voting could actually change anything it would be illegal.
I think that was Emma Goldman
I think we all pretty much know how it works. And now with 100% electronic voting...with no paper trail...well...fuckin' human paraquats!
Check it out, mang..............
51% Say Legalize Marijuana in New California Poll
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2010/aug/11/51_say_legalize_marijuana_new_ca
Legalization got 51%, with 47% saying marijuana should be legalized and controlled like alcohol and another 4% saying marijuana should be legalized -- period. Thirteen percent wanted to keep current laws, but lessen the penalties (which pending decriminalization legislation would accomplish), while 19% wanted tough enforcement of existing laws and a hard-core 14% wanted even tougher pot laws.
Quote from: revgms on January 11, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
...For the most part I just avoid TV these days, DVR man, catch that one out of a hundred worth seeing...
I'm moving in that direction myself. I have met a few people who don't even bother with TV just wait for friends to recommend stuff and buy it on DVD.
Well, I have to disagree on BBC thing. I don't know what it was in past, so maybe compared to that it is dumber, but when I think of BBC it think "the best TV in the world". Just think of David Attenborough - he still makes new stuff, programs like QI, just few weeks ago I watched short series about astronomy in fucking prime time. Ancient World - next thing I watched not long ago. Some of the best comedy I've seen in my life. That's from the top of my head. Do I really have such low standards or are you exaggerating a bit?
Maybe it's like Britons' opinion on UK. Most of people asking me why I came to live here say things like "this country is shit", "can't live here anymore". Get a grip! It's one of the best and greatest countries in the world. You are so used to it that you don't even notice it anymore. Believe me, you could do much worse, both with BBC and the UK.
Well that's just like.... your opinion man..... ;)
I know, man, I know. It always is.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 12, 2011, 05:41:49 AM
Quote from: revgms on January 11, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
...For the most part I just avoid TV these days, DVR man, catch that one out of a hundred worth seeing...
I'm moving in that direction myself. I have met a few people who don't even bother with TV just wait for friends to recommend stuff and buy it on DVD.
That is the case with me here in the U.S. Holy shit, they have fucked up TV beyond belief! Nothing but pile after pile of worthless idiotic absolute brain rot! Pathetic puke like reality TV is a cancer on TV here in the States. It's all mindless crap run by nihilist assholes who beliefs in nosing man, except the all mighty dollar of course. It scares me that society supports the shit they produce by actually watching it. A testimony to the theory of "broadcasting to the lowest common denominator" I would guess.
I only watch ONE program and that is "The Big Bang Theory," and I watch that on DVD or download it from a torrent. Even that show, which is funny as hell, is 20 minutes per episode with about 10 minutes of fucking ads, so I don't even watch THAT on TV.
American TV, can't abide it, man. It's an unworthy compromised third, forth, fifth draft. TV executives; a bunch of asshole.
In defense of American TV, about 2% is good, got PBS, Nat Geo and Commedy Central.
I like the Daily Show, Colbert Report and NOVA.
But yeah, 98% crap.
I'd like to come to jakubol's support.
IMHO you Brits now and then are a bit too harsh about your own country. Don't get me wrong, don't want to say everything's fine but then you have some fine traditions, habits and - humor!
You don't like pricks and uptightness.
Why was it the TBL was more successful in the UK than in the States, originally.
Also, you have good driving manners, one of the lowest casualty rates on the roads, and: You have Inspector Barnaby ;D
Faithfully BE
And then last night on uk channel More 4 there was gem of a programme...an absolute peach...a mindfuck of a documentary...called Journey to the edge of the Universe.
It's a couple of years old but it's the first time I've seen it....there's nothing really here that I didn't know before...magnetars, pulsars, quasars etc...but the graphics and the commentary show and tell the story in a breathtaking and mindboggling manner.
It's made by National Geographic and narrated by Sean Pertwee. it can be seen online here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/journey-edge-universe/ (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/journey-edge-universe/)
Trust me on this it's 90 minutes worth watching.
Peace dudes..
Quote from: Caesar dude on January 23, 2011, 12:02:20 PM
And then last night on uk channel More 4 there was gem of a programme...an absolute peach...a mindfuck of a documentary...called Journey to the edge of the Universe.
It's a couple of years old but it's the first time I've seen it....there's nothing really here that I didn't know before...magnetars, pulsars, quasars etc...but the graphics and the commentary show and tell the story in a breathtaking and mindboggling manner.
It's made by National Geographic and narrated by Sean Pertwee. it can be seen online here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/journey-edge-universe/ (http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/journey-edge-universe/)
Trust me on this it's 90 minutes worth watching.
Peace dudes..
Thanks dude. I'm sending this link to my Mysteries Of The Universe forum as well. I will let them know it came from here.
QuoteMystery's Of The Universe forum
Errrrrm there's a wee bit I don't understand there...ie the web site address....it sorta might be something I'm interested in dude! A LOT! ;) :D ;D
Might not post but I'd like to see what it's about... cheers dude.
Reverend J.
Quote from: Caesar dude on January 23, 2011, 01:36:37 PM
QuoteMystery's Of The Universe forum
Errrrrm there's a wee bit I don't understand there...ie the web site address....it sorta might be something I'm interested in dude! A LOT! ;) :D ;D
Might not post but I'd like to see what it's about... cheers dude.
Reverend J.
MOTU: http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/159729.html
Cheers CCK Maybe you could post this on the "that's fucking interesting" board...I'll have a look around this evening Thanks again for the link dude.
Quote from: Caesar dude on January 23, 2011, 01:58:03 PM
Cheers CCK Maybe you could post this on the "that's fucking interesting" board...I'll have a look around this evening Thanks again for the link dude.
It's not that interesting anymore. It runs in cycles it used to be, but it's sort of gone down hill right now. It was really something and the best discussion board ever when it was on MSNBC back in the mid to late 90's. After 9/11 MSNBC shut us down, so we (Ken actually) created a discussion board of our own for all the MSNBC refugees. It was going real good for a while after, but most of the old timers have drifted away. There's only a few of us left from the old days.
I'm a moderator there and on The Book Place, but neither need much attending these days.
Quote from: jakubol on January 22, 2011, 12:00:29 PM
...Get a grip! It's one of the best and greatest countries in the world. You are so used to it that you don't even notice it anymore. Believe me, you could do much worse, both with BBC and the UK.
Very possible, very possible indeed, they say familiarity breeds contempt.
Though I do realise we could do worse, again I agree.
I would ask how long you have been in the country.
But just this morning sitting in front of the TV I have:
Saints or Sinners,
Ready steady cook,
This morning,
Relocation, Relocation,
The Vennesa Show,
Maury,
Four Weddings,
Ghost Hunters,
Judge Judy.
All very low budget easy to make rubbish.
I wont go on, but it does appear that the educational quality of many of the BBc's (especially the BBC's) programs has reduced. Now it may actually be that educational standards generally have fallen. Or it's the effect of the widening of the market reducing the potential market and thus reducing potential finance.
In my own experience over xmas I was interested in a little program about the origins of xmas, particularly this episode about the xmas tree. I was appaled that the program held no reference to any of the Pagan origins of the tree tradition. No mention was made of the northern heathen tradition of decorating wild trees at the solstice, and the Pagan tradition of the re-birth of the sun god as a fir tree as re-enacted each year.
Now it may be that I have reached a fairly high level of specialisation in these matters but I refuse to believe that I am of a higher academic level than those who did the research (or were available to the researchers) of the program.
"..Get a grip! It's one of the best and greatest countries in the world. You are so used to it that you don't even notice it anymore. Believe me, you could do much worse, both with BBC and the UK."
Well, Dude, I wasn't down on my homeland (although, of course, I am down on the State); just on the quality of TV programming (maybe it's just an age thing). BBC Radio is still pretty good - well, still the best (no bloody ads). Non-UK residents can catch up on shows via BBC 7 (comedy, factual, drama): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio7/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio7/)
Have to agree with Cake, the radio programs still remain very good, it just seems that the technical research has begun to lack for the science and history programs on TV. It's more about personality rather than quality. Now this may not just be the BBC, it's just they were the first place I would turn to for good info.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 24, 2011, 07:11:52 AM
Very possible, very possible indeed, they say familiarity breeds contempt.
Though I do realise we could do worse, again I agree.
I would ask how long you have been in the country.
But just this morning sitting in front of the TV I have:
Saints or Sinners,
Ready steady cook,
This morning,
Relocation, Relocation,
The Vennesa Show,
Maury,
Four Weddings,
Ghost Hunters,
Judge Judy.
Wooooow man! I thought that:
Quote from: meekon5 on January 10, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
I am sorry but I have become more and more disillusionment with the BBC and their "science" program's.
What used to be a really good source of unbiased information has reduced itself to really low brow over simplification of the subject they are trying to represent.
Of shows you listed I'm sure that Ready steady cook is BBC's, maybe more, but I checked few and they seem not only made by different stations, but even different countries. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Okay then. Giving examples from American TV to prove how BBC goes down the drain isn't very fair now is it?
Even worse - you specifically complained about BBC's
science programs, now you give examples of dumbing
reality tv and not even BBC's.
Do you stay by your opinion? Maybe it's me who's wrong, but your arguments don't convince me at all, dude. It looks like I was right and you are one of those Britons who just like to complain, even for no reason. Please, tell me I'm wrong.
I'm actually watching a Chanel Four program "Birth of Britain" with Tony bloody Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Robinson).
Now it's an interesting program with shouty Tony running round the country, lots of academics interviewed.
I think what it's highlighted is that none of it is anything I didn't study for my "O" level geography thirty years ago.
In fact it would have been fantastic as a revision aid when I was taking the "O" Levels.
Quote from: jakubol on January 24, 2011, 02:28:25 PM
...Of shows you listed I'm sure that Ready steady cook is BBC's, maybe more, but I checked few and they seem not only made by different stations, but even different countries. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Okay then. Giving examples from American TV to prove how BBC goes down the drain isn't very fair now is it?
Even worse - you specifically complained about BBC's science programs, now you give examples of dumbing reality tv and not even BBC's.
Do you stay by your opinion? Maybe it's me who's wrong, but your arguments don't convince me at all, dude. It looks like I was right and you are one of those Britons who just like to complain, even for no reason. Please, tell me I'm wrong.
Sorry trying to argue too many points in the one post. I think we may be focusing on the BBC a bit much. The point I was trying to make there was that they were the pinnacle of TV at one point and to me that sharpness has been blunted.
I find the majority of TV has fallen to the sort of cheap "send in your video's for money", to the "we bought all the videos from all the police cars we could" style, to the "let us put a video camera in your house" style.
Now maybe I'm being an intellectual elitist but I would have joined the Church of Bob (http://www.subgenius.com/) (and not be here annoying the arse of all the other Dudeists) if I was not looking for stimulating conversation (no insult to the Church of Bob).
Maybe I should just stick to watching TED (http://www.ted.com/) for my intellectual stimulation instead of trying to get my brain fix from TV.
But I believe someone else mentioned that the History Channel is showing "Ice Road Truckers". No disrespect to the truckers but not on the history channel.
Also "Horizon" was the bleeding edge of the cutting edge, but now appears (IMHO) to be the bludgeoning edge of mediocrity.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 24, 2011, 04:02:44 PM
I think we may be focusing on the BBC a bit much. The point I was trying to make there was that they were the pinnacle of TV at one point and to me that sharpness has been blunted.
Well, that was the only reason I opposed you in this thread - you started complaining about BBC and its science programs (even "science" programs as you wrote).
If you're trying to convince me that majority of telly nowadays is crap than you'll fail, sir, as I already know that and need no convincing. I simply ignore all the crap and usually go straight to "Documentaries" in my Sky menu. You can usually find something good there, be it British (BBC!), American or others. At least something about nazis ;) I've seen nothing about nihilists so far, though. And yes, in past I also made fun of the fact that truckers have little to do with history and thus with History Channel :)
In my uni times I used to live with a bloke who watched tv almost all the fucking time, to the point that when there was nothing on he'd watch worst crap you can imagine. I don't get it, I'd rather read a book or watch the paint dry, but there you go - people will watch anything, so why bother making it good.
Considering that, BBC (still) seems to be high above the rest and that was my point.
I'm drawing the line here! And across this line YOU DO NOT! Also, dude, Tony bloody Robinson is not the preferred nomenclature. Tony "Baldrick" Robinson, please.
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
... (even "science" programs as you wrote)...
Over the line mate, don't try to be a smart ass.
Before i address anything else in your post be aware i am dyslexic.
this sort of smart ass comment does not stand.
I was eighteen before I could differentiate between phonetically similar words, even to the level of using to, too, and two, interchangeably.
I was twenty nine before i was even diagnosed with a problem.
I have a degree from Durham university (one of the top uni's in the country).
I work for one of the leading world institutes (the Natural History Museum)
This comment is not clever, and in this country an offence under the disabled discrimination act (and now the Equality Act 2010) when applied to someone like myself who is disabled.
What I do here (especially with the damned spell checker being US not UK) and every day in my job is the equivalent of a double amputee running in an able body persons race.
Being able to consistently get the e and i in the right place does not a genius make you.
I refer you to one of the worlds most famous dyslexics, Albert Einstein.
Look I apologise for this outburst but I am tired of expending so much more energy than most people just to try to appear to be as stupid as the majority of them are.
We have a lot of international Dudes on this site And i don't think trying to "win" points by being head spelling monitor is a particularly Dudely endeavour, this will not make you a young achiever.
Now in reply to the rest of your post.
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
Well, that was the only reason I opposed you in this thread - you started complaining about BBC and its science programs (even "science" programs as you wrote).
If you're trying to convince me that majority of telly nowadays is crap than you'll fail, sir, as I already know that and need no convincing.
Funnily enough it's a general discussion I was not trying to convince anyone, and it's not a point scoring event. It's not a competition. it's a few friends meeting to discuss stuff they think is important round a few drinks and a joint.
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
I simply ignore all the crap and usually go straight to "Documentaries" in my Sky menu. You can usually find something good there, be it British (BBC!), American or others. At least something about nazis ;)
we refer to the history channel at home as the Nazi channel now.
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
I've seen nothing about nihilists so far, though. And yes, in past I also made fun of the fact that truckers have little to do with history and thus with History Channel :)
Sorry didn't realise that was actually you just remebered the quote.
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
In my uni times I used to live with a bloke who watched tv almost all the fucking time, to the point that when there was nothing on he'd watch worst crap you can imagine. I don't get it, I'd rather read a book or watch the paint dry, but there you go - people will watch anything, so why bother making it good.
when I was signed off with depression and on a relatively high dose of seroxat I would watch anything (which worried me after a while).
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
Considering that, BBC (still) seems to be high above the rest and that was my point.
I'm drawing the line here! And across this line YOU DO NOT! Also, dude, Tony bloody Robinson is not the preferred nomenclature. Tony "Baldrick" Robinson, please.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 25, 2011, 12:30:07 PM
Over the line mate, don't try to be a smart ass.
Eeeee...? What the fuck are you talking about?! You wrote:
I am sorry but I have become more and more disillusionment with the BBC and their "science" program's
Quotation marks were in your original post underlining that BBC's programs are pseudoscience, not real science, at least that's how I understand it. In no way am I trying to make fun of you, I don't give a fuck about your dyslexia, nor have I noticed it!
If I offended you in any way know, that it wasn't my intention and surely you misunderstood me. The only reason I wrote anything in this thread was that you complained about quality of BBC's programs and I disagree. Then you started proving me wrong giving examples of American daytime (again, seeing how this has developed I probably misunderstood you) and now you accuse me of being smart ass and fuck know what else.
To avoid offending you more I'll just shut up.
Fuck me, I didn't expect that...
Help me out dudes! Which of The Dude De Ching's work best here?
How about #26?
26. Calmer Than You Are
Gravity is not exactly a lightweight,
Balance ? our life is in its hands.
So Walter should not act compulsively or be a reactionary.
Acting compulsively, he waves a gun around,
Acting like a reactionary, he lives in the fucking past.
The Stranger journeys all day without losing the trail;
Surrounded by stupefyin? things, he remains calm and orders a sarsaparilla.
That?s a good one.
Tao Te Ching: 26. Calm
Gravity is the source of Lightness,
Calm, the master of Haste
So the leader of a great enterprise should not act lightly or hastily.
Acting lightly, he loses touch with the World,
Acting hastily, he loses control of the Self.
The sage journeys all day without losing control;
Surrounded by desirable things, he is calm and unattached.
Hi Meekon and jakubol
I, too, didn't get the impression jaku was taking the piss because of any spelling mistake, and anyway, was there one ???
What I really don't understand: Where came all the unchecked aggression from?
I mean, basically everybody agrees, don't they?
First off: Most of commercial TV is crap.
Second: Even publicly funded TV-channels tend to lower their standards.
So, what's the rumpus?
You are a bit undude, here, dudes.
Faithfully BE
Or how about #22?
22. Can?t Be Worried About That Shit
Abide and you achieve,
Spare and you strike,
Drink and you are drunken,
Take it up with the man, you got a man down,
A life of achievement, and didn?t do very well at it,
Forget about the fucking toe!
Nothing about it indicates.
The Stranger accepts the World,
As the World accepts the Dude;
He narrates the film, so is clearly heard;
Does not self-apply a name, so remains unknown;
Has never been to London or France,
But can die with a smile on his face without feelin? like the good lord gypped him;
Because he does not eat the bar, the bar does not eat him,
He does not curse, so no one curses him.
The Stranger said, ?Take it easy, Dude?I know that you will.?
Yeah man. Well, you know, the Dude abides.
The Dude Abides.
Tao Te Ching: 22. Acceptance and Contention
Accept and you become whole,
Bend and you straighten,
Empty and you fill,
Decay and you renew,
Want and you acquire,
Fulfill and you become confused.
The sage accepts the World
As the World accepts Tao;
He does not display himself, so is clearly seen,
Does not justify himself, so is famed,
Does not boast, so is credited,
Does not glory, so excels,
Does not contend, so no one contends against him.
The saints said, ?Accept and you become whole?,
Once whole, the World is as your home.
@M5 - There was no mistake, Dude - I think Jakubol was responding to the quotation marks around science - intimating that your opinion of BBC science shows are, as Jakubol put it "pseudoscience'. He was behind the line, as far as I can see.
@Jakubol - Seems to me that someone with dyslexia would be under some strain in writing on public forums and so might be somewhat brusque (don't you just love the English language? ;D), in reaction, if it appears their piece is being ridiculed. A misunderstanding compounded by the fact that a Dude with dyslexia may not be able to tell if he/she got it right.
No ones intelligence or motives are being questioned here; I feel I should sling a haiku at the situation but, fortunately for you guys, my Muse is elsewhere (probably giving a metaphorical blow-job to CC - bet the Dude doesn't even have to pay ;D). So, instead I will leave you with this: (http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/dancingdude.gif)
Dance it off, Dudes.
Incidentally, and this has nothing to do with the above, there's a good article on the Dudespaper at the moment about the True Grit re-working. Some good comments, too - I haven't seen the movie, yet, though.
Quote from: meekon5 on January 25, 2011, 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: jakubol on January 25, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
... (even "science" programs as you wrote)...
Over the line mate, don't try to be a smart ass.
Before i address anything else in your post be aware i am dyslexic.
this sort of smart ass comment does not stand.
I was eighteen before I could differentiate between phonetically similar words, even to the level of using to, too, and two, interchangeably.
I was twenty nine before i was even diagnosed with a problem.
I have a degree from Durham university (one of the top uni's in the country).
I work for one of the leading world institutes (the Natural History Museum)
This comment is not clever, and in this country an offence under the disabled discrimination act (and now the Equality Act 2010) when applied to someone like myself who is disabled.
What I do here (especially with the damned spell checker being US not UK) and every day in my job is the equivalent of a double amputee running in an able body persons race.
Being able to consistently get the e and i in the right place does not a genius make you.
I refer you to one of the worlds most famous dyslexics, Albert Einstein.
Look I apologise for this outburst but I am tired of expending so much more energy than most people just to try to appear to be as stupid as the majority of them are.
We have a lot of international Dudes on this site And i don't think trying to "win" points by being head spelling monitor is a particularly Dudely endeavour, this will not make you a young achiever.
M5, also known as the osama bin laden lookin' dude. Sense of humor, "Calm the frig down Meg" An old line from Howard Stern. I'm too lazy to go through all the previous posts that elicited the outburst so I'm like a child wandering in to the middle of...what day is this?
Great credentials, I could'nt go to college so I went to Penn State,.. on G.I. Bill after watching my buddies face down in the muck. Still can't get my punctuation right or correct.
Now a days(is that one word or three?), only a real Penn Stater can say that without provoking a threat to stick it up your ass until it goes click. But my first three kids graduated from the new and improved Penn State and are actually successes(sic)
Anyway, back to the moronic condition of tv. Apparently it is in the same sad state in the UK as in the US. However, some of the imported BBC comedies with Ricky Gervais and that dude who sold pot out of his flat, the cop supplied him, cartoon head, forgot the name but it was a hoot. Over here in the colonies we have an overabundence of shit reality shows which make you cringe, and weep for those who watch them. We actually unsubscribed to satellite for several months until my mother moved in to recover from open heart surgery. What else would an 88 year old do while recovering. Just a rhetorical?.
The best part was our 16 year old twins did not give a shit when we shut it down.
Anyway my point is the topic of this post, "scaremongering by the fascist gov." And a reference to the first page and post by I think Dbudda.
A GOOD friend of mine went to a pain specialist from multiple auto accident residual injuries and rec'd multiple flavors of narcotic scripts. Every now and then he took a urine test. After a visit to a nephew in California who has a medical marijuana card and liimbering up and down, the next test came back positive for the holy herb. Immediately discharged from Dr's roles. Is that ironic? Also rhetorical.
I'll let you and Cake get back to fuckin'' with each other, or whoever posted that your spelling sucked. Just thought I'd give you my opinion, and a little leit motif. It's Brandt at Mr. Lebowski's office. I did a quick reply and don't know how to make a smiley face, maybe someone can enlighten me.
Quote from: brother_erwin on January 25, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
What I really don't understand: Where came all the unchecked aggression from?
I mean, basically everybody agrees, don't they?
First off: Most of commercial TV is crap.
Second: Even publicly funded TV-channels tend to lower their standards.
So, what's the rumpus?
That's what I wrote in my post:
"If you're trying to convince me that majority of telly nowadays is crap than you'll fail, sir, as I already know that and need no convincing." - that was me agreeing with Meekon, then I tried to have a bit of a laugh -
but never out of him. I hate people who take piss of others just because they think they're better and I don't do it myself.
In responce to my burying the hatchet I felt attacked for no reason. He made me feel really crappy, honestly.
But now - I accept that it was a misunderstanding.
Meekon - if you felt offended by me in any way I am deeply sorry - that was NEVER my intention, mate!
Let's leave it behind. As a wiser man than me said - fuck it.
And rest of you - thanks for all! This forum is simply unique - I've never seen anything like this and met people like you - believe it or not.
@Cakebelly - great gif - one of my favourite moments of the movie - this and when Dude begins his dancing by funny-walking from behind the corner. Priceless :D
Yeah, good scenes - as you probably know - used them both in this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWw9QzvTCQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWw9QzvTCQ)
Yeah man, I think I've said it before - this is a good one - shows what connects us, humans.
But then again - Winners of a "Fuckin' A!" Award. Need I say more? Okay then.
Quote from: brandt on January 25, 2011, 02:13:55 PM
don't know how to make a smiley face, maybe someone can enlighten me.
type a ; then add a D to get ;D
PS you can always hit the quote button to see how to post other emoticons that others are using.
I like 8 plus ) to get 8)
jakubol I apologise.
Brandt your right I suffered a catastrophic and almost terminal sense of humour failure.
I too have frequently been misinterpreted on this forum.
Bad few days, probably should have stopped and taken a breath before posting.
How can I put this?
You may not have expressed yourself clearly enough and I (being particularly sensitive about my writing because of the above reasons) jumped on the wrong interpretation and vented a lot of aggression.
Please forgive me.
Fuck it dudes...lets go bowling! 8)
I'd like to say.....fuck me..... Jackubol....you started with unchecked aggression.... and first I thought my compeer Meekon would let it it fly..... but no! You had another go JKBul....so my man lost his cool....hey dudes I thought..... But as I was compiling my words...in which to deconstruct and rebuild our little co-munity .... You Dudes just brought it all together.....
COOOOOOOOOL.
This Reverend is happy now.
Love light and peace... I see you all agree or at least can see to agree...no war dudes no war EVER.
Peace my fellow monks.
Nice recovery Dudes.
cheers
@Meekon: Cheers, man. I'm glad that it's over - we can abide again in peace :)
Quote from: Caesar dude on January 25, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
I'd like to say.....fuck me..... Jackubol....you started with unchecked aggression.... and first I thought my compeer Meekon would let it it fly..... but no! You had another go JKBul....so my man lost his cool...
It's
Jakubol.
So, you're basically saying that it's all my and only my fault? My inner Walter is locked back inside, so I'll let it go, but know, that I disagree.
Quote from: jakubol on January 26, 2011, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Caesar dude on January 25, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
I'd like to say.....fuck me..... Jackubol....you started with unchecked aggression.... and first I thought my compeer Meekon would let it it fly..... but no! You had another go JKBul....so my man lost his cool...
It's Jakubol.
So, you're basically saying that it's all my and only my fault? My inner Walter is locked back inside, so I'll let it go, but know, that I disagree.
Guys just leave it.
Have a drink.
Smoke a J.
Quote from: cckeiser on January 25, 2011, 05:25:08 PM
Fuck it dudes...lets go bowling! 8)
Quote from: meekon5 on January 26, 2011, 01:14:30 PM
Guys just leave it.
Have a drink.
Smoke a J.
I'm perfectly calm, dude. Calmer than you are ;)
Can't afford any of above right now. Maybe that's why I'm being such a twat. Feeding the monkey sucks, man.
Quote from: jakubol on January 26, 2011, 02:07:08 PM
...I'm perfectly calm, dude. Calmer than you are ;)
I used to internalise all my stress and aggression, until I actually had a break down, was signed off for eight months on seroxat (as mentioned earlier). Which completely turned all the voices off in my head. It was then I realised what lonely lives the rest of you actually live.
I stopped taking the sedatives, the voices are back (not as much as before), which is good because it's actually my creative muse that is talking to me ;D.
And every now and then i explode in a rant. I'm more balanced because of it, the rants are few and far between.
I am writing poetry and stories again.
Quote from: jakubol on January 26, 2011, 02:07:08 PM
Can't afford any of above right now. Maybe that's why I'm being such a twat. Feeding the monkey sucks, man.
To quote Garfield "Too much month left at the end of the pay check" yes I am frequently there.
Poetry, you say? Few years ago I tried some mushrooms and that was one of very few moments in my life when I actually understood and even tried to write some poetry. I came up with this idea that poets are people with some kind of different state of mind (something like: there's a thin line between genius and madness) and rest of ordinary, gray folk can only achieve that with drugs. I don't know how much true is that theory, I was seriously high, but it seemed perfectly clear at the moment.
I usually unload my anger on surrounding things, 'cause everything drives me mad. I've never seriously destroyed anything, but was close few times. Another thing is that usually I hurt myself more that those things i.e. I kick something and have fucking sore foot for a week. That usually cools me down a bit :)
It's worse when some poor bastard comes around when I'm angry - they get the attitude and I know they don't deserve it. I try hard to stop this and noticed some progress, but it's still a long way. My inner Walter is a mean bastard :)
And finally - do you mean Garfield the cat? It looks like it and if yes than fuckin' a, mate, that's one of the brilliantest (is that a word?) things created by humans. He's a true dude, can't really find truer (OK, now I'm quite sure I'm inventing words :D ).
Peace, man. You made my evening. Cheers!
From a bumper sticker:
"You are all just jealous because The Voices are talking to me and not you!" 8)
Quote from: jakubol on January 27, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
...And finally - do you mean Garfield the cat? It looks like it and if yes than fuckin' a, mate, that's one of the brilliantest (is that a word?) things created by humans. He's a true dude, can't really find truer (OK, now I'm quite sure I'm inventing words :D ).
Yep that's the Dude.
Quote from: jakubol on January 27, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
Poetry, you say? Few years ago I tried some mushrooms and that was one of very few moments in my life when I actually understood and even tried to write some poetry. I came up with this idea that poets are people with some kind of different state of mind (something like: there's a thin line between genius and madness) and rest of ordinary, gray folk can only achieve that with drugs. I don't know how much true is that theory, I was seriously high, but it seemed perfectly clear at the moment.
See a lot of people say that about me. I personally don't see it as a mental thing I just seriously believe I have a radically different point of view on reality to most people.
All my life I have conducted conversations in my head , sometimes with people I know, sometimes with people i don't. These have always been part of the creative process for me. Sometimes the conversations take on a life of their own, which is where I start to write.
When I took the sedatives these conversations stopped, and even though I spent eight months signed off work I was totally unable to create during that period.
Quote from: jakubol on January 27, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
Poetry, you say? Few years ago I tried some mushrooms and that was one of very few moments in my life when I actually understood and even tried to write some poetry. I came up with this idea that poets are people with some kind of different state of mind (something like: there's a thin line between genius and madness) and rest of ordinary, gray folk can only achieve that with drugs. I don't know how much true is that theory, I was seriously high, but it seemed perfectly clear at the moment.
Scratch a genius...find a fungus!
Fungi release alkaloids as they reproduce. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaloid
Quote from: jakubol on January 27, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
Poetry, you say? Few years ago I tried some mushrooms and that was one of very few moments in my life when I actually understood and even tried to write some poetry. I came up with this idea that poets are people with some kind of different state of mind (something like: there's a thin line between genius and madness) and rest of ordinary, gray folk can only achieve that with drugs. I don't know how much true is that theory, I was seriously high, but it seemed perfectly clear at the moment.
I usually unload my anger on surrounding things, 'cause everything drives me mad. I've never seriously destroyed anything, but was close few times. Another thing is that usually I hurt myself more that those things i.e. I kick something and have fucking sore foot for a week. That usually cools me down a bit :)
It's worse when some poor bastard comes around when I'm angry - they get the attitude and I know they don't deserve it. I try hard to stop this and noticed some progress, but it's still a long way. My inner Walter is a mean bastard :)
And finally - do you mean Garfield the cat? It looks like it and if yes than fuckin' a, mate, that's one of the brilliantest (is that a word?) things created by humans. He's a true dude, can't really find truer (OK, now I'm quite sure I'm inventing words :D ).
Peace, man. You made my evening. Cheers!
Quote from: meekon5 on January 27, 2011, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: jakubol on January 27, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
Poetry, you say? Few years ago I tried some mushrooms and that was one of very few moments in my life when I actually understood and even tried to write some poetry. I came up with this idea that poets are people with some kind of different state of mind (something like: there's a thin line between genius and madness) and rest of ordinary, gray folk can only achieve that with drugs. I don't know how much true is that theory, I was seriously high, but it seemed perfectly clear at the moment.
See a lot of people say that about me. I personally don't see it as a mental thing I just seriously believe I have a radically different point of view on reality to most people.
All my life I have conducted conversations in my head , sometimes with people I know, sometimes with people i don't. These have always been part of the creative process for me. Sometimes the conversations take on a life of their own, which is where I start to write.
When I took the sedatives these conversations stopped, and even though I spent eight months signed off work I was totally unable to create during that period.
Dudes, we're all angry sometime and we all talk to people we know and don't know. The solution, Just take it easy , men. That's juust like my opinion dudes. Now excuse me, I have to go kick the dog and I have an urgent matter to ::) ::) ::) discuss with Napoleon. ;) ;D
Quote from: brandt on January 27, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
Dudes, we're all angry sometime and we all talk to people we know and don't know. The solution, Just take it easy , men. That's juust like my opinion dudes. Now excuse me, I have to go kick the dog and I have an urgent matter to ::) ::) ::) discuss with Napoleon. ;) ;D
Dude no ones angry here any more, this had resolved into a discussion about madness and creativity. Mostly my madness and the voices in my head coming back.
;D
.....and that's cool.
Dude, we can't take this negativity into the forum, beating the voices in our heads should be a pushover, and before you know it we're in the semis! Am I wrong? Be okay then. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: meekon5 on January 27, 2011, 05:43:19 PM
All my life I have conducted conversations in my head , sometimes with people I know, sometimes with people i don't. These have always been part of the creative process for me. Sometimes the conversations take on a life of their own, which is where I start to write.
When I took the sedatives these conversations stopped, and even though I spent eight months signed off work I was totally unable to create during that period.
If you put it that way... I do it sort of all the time then :) Well, most of it maybe. It's difficult to describe using just words I guess, but many times I caught myself being miles away going through some conversations in my head :) Sometimes I describe things I know for myself and probably some other stuff I can't remember now.
What I was thinking about poets wasn't any mental problems. More like a gift maybe. Different state of mind... Fuck it, man. It is hard to describe with words! If they'll find a way to plug yourself to somebody's head then you'll know what I mean. Besides - I was high then 8)
Anyway - this doesn't help me with poetry. I never wrote anything, but I thought about committing some story maybe. Only poems I do get and understand are song lyrics. For some reason it's easier with music.
And Garfield - if you didn't know you can see all the stripes ever made for free on the official website. At the moment I'm somewhere in 1987. I don't like cats, man, but Garfield is a fuckin' genius. I love the attitude since I saw my first stripe.
You don't like cats? Cats are Dudes, man - cats are whiskered-haikus with tails. I believe that some Dude got his cat ordained as a Ddueist (it's somewhere on the forum - maybe "That's Fucking Interesting.")
Quote from: brandt on January 28, 2011, 10:12:06 AM
...beating the voices in our heads should be a pushover, and before you know it we're in the semis!
Beating the voices, no you misunderstand me sir, I like the voices (they are my friends).
The voices are part of my creative process.
Quote from: cakebelly on January 28, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
You don't like cats? Cats are Dudes, man - cats are whiskered-haikus with tails. I believe that some Dude got his cat ordained as a Ddueist (it's somewhere on the forum - maybe "That's Fucking Interesting.")
I don't know man. They freak me out. I'm simply scared of them. Even them small ones try to scratch my eyeballs out (or at least that's what I think) :D
Quote from: cakebelly on January 28, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
You don't like cats? Cats are Dudes, man - cats are whiskered-haikus with tails. I believe that some Dude got his cat ordained as a Ddueist (it's somewhere on the forum - maybe "That's Fucking Interesting.")
Yeah I got two, Dig the cat style.
What get's me all Walter like is arguing against prohibition. Just had a nasty bit of arguing on another site. I started it, but still. Much nicer around here.
Quote from: jakubol on January 28, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
Quote from: cakebelly on January 28, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
You don't like cats? Cats are Dudes, man - cats are whiskered-haikus with tails. I believe that some Dude got his cat ordained as a Ddueist (it's somewhere on the forum - maybe "That's Fucking Interesting.")
I don't know man. They freak me out. I'm simply scared of them. Even them small ones try to scratch my eyeballs out (or at least that's what I think) :D
Somehow cats know when you don't like them. Friend of my Mums used to come round and all my mums cats would meet and sit outside the door (because they were not allowed in the same room). I knew she was in the house because they all (about seven of them) would be pacing up and down in the hall. ;D
I like them for their all natural pest controll. No chemicals, and I don't have to kill anything, Miss Kitty is our hired killer.
Now the OP was about bad science used as anti pot propaganda on what should be a network that is supposed to be reason and science based. How about when our leaders do the same thing, not the wing nuts, but the ones who claim to be rational. Like Obama, :"I inhaled, that was the point" Obama, for all his rhetoric, he is still maintaining the high level of prohibitionist actions in this Nation. Youtube just asked for questions to present to the president, 198 out of 200 were, "when are we gonna legalize already?", voted on by tens of thousands. That question was asked 15th, and he didn't laugh this time, but what he did say was almost as dubious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0ghmUS05o
Quote from: meekon5 on January 30, 2011, 06:45:15 AM
Somehow cats know when you don't like them. Friend of my Mums used to come round and all my mums cats would meet and sit outside the door (because they were not allowed in the same room). I knew she was in the house because they all (about seven of them) would be pacing up and down in the hall. ;D
Not long ago my friends got a kitten and I was hoping to finally get over my issue with cats as I visit them quite often. Little bastard liked me like nobody else. Every time I was there it would jump on my knees and wanted to play with me. So I scratched it and so on, he'd lay down and enjoy for a while, but after few minutes the twat wanted more and would start to scratch me! If I hide my hand in sleeves it'd go for my face. >:(
On the other hand the cat was a bit on the rough side, my friends had to get rid of it, because it was getting dangerous to their little daughter. I was quite happy about that :D
My Mum owned a cat that adored me. Problem was it was part feral. I went to Uni for three years and the cat moved out of the house into the garage. When I moved back after Uni she moved back into the house. She was a handful, bit people and scratched, but absolutely adored me, and was no problem.