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The Limber Mind Library => The Little Lebowski => Topic started by: The Lennon on September 25, 2010, 03:17:59 PM

Title: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on September 25, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
c.c.keiser and I are putting our heads together once again after our two month long hiatus. We will be editing the story and adding in new scenes.
Just as we have said in previous posts; If you have any ideas that you would like to share to add to the story, let us know and we'll discuss them and add them in.

We look forward to hearing your feedback.
Thanks
-The Little Lebowski writers
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on September 25, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: The Lennon on September 25, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
c.c.keiser and I are putting our heads together once again after our two month long hiatus. We will be editing the story and adding in new scenes.
Just as we have said in previous posts; If you have any ideas that you would like to share to add to the story, let us know and we'll discuss them and add them in.

We look forward to hearing your feedback.
Thanks
-The Little Lebowski writers


Far out, dude. Been outta the loop on the whole "Little Lebowski" thing going on, but will check it out.


Oh, ahhhhh, as long as it not on a league night.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on October 04, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
Don't worry dude, you don't have to read it on a league night or Shabbas, your own leisure time is the best time.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 10, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
Quote from: The Lennon on October 04, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
Don't worry dude, you don't have to read it on a league night or Shabbas, your own leisure time is the best time.

Hey dude, was reading some lines from the Little Lebowski and thought I'd give you some notes. So far its looking far out and very interesting. I'm wondering if it could be made into a fan film? That would be a way cool urban achievement. Hey, if the Trekkies can do it, some dudes and dudettes should be able to achieve it.

All looks cool so far, mang. Far fucking out.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on October 17, 2010, 12:58:17 AM
That very well may happen, all it would take is a couple of cameras, a goodwill store, some effects software, and to be in the LA area, and that is all possible for me in the near future.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 17, 2010, 01:58:51 AM
Quote from: The Lennon on October 17, 2010, 12:58:17 AM
That very well may happen, all it would take is a couple of cameras, a goodwill store, some effects software, and to be in the LA area, and that is all possible for me in the near future.

Shit man, that's way cool. If it happens, keep us posted, man. I live in the L.A. area just a few miles from the Dude's pad.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on October 19, 2010, 01:49:29 PM
I was in LA for about a month, it would have been cool to meet you in person while I was there. I just came back to Sacramento yesterday. But I'll be back in LA before long.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on October 19, 2010, 02:07:24 PM
Far out, yeah, meeting would be cool. There are a few locations around town where I can show you. The places where they shot the movie...the dude's pad in Venice, the location where they toss Donny's ashes to the wind (look over Walter's shoulder, that's Catalina Island not from from me), and little Larry's pad (drive by a lot if I head for one of L.A. county's art museums - MOCA).

Abide, Lennon dude.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on October 20, 2010, 02:30:49 PM
According to TBL script http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/b/big-lebowski-script-screenplay.html Walter tossed Donny's ashes at Point Dume:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Map+coordinates+for+Point+Dume+State+Beach,+Malibu,+CA&mrt=loc&sll=34.000749,-118.806453&sspn=0.004332,0.010568&ie=UTF8&ll=34.000642,-118.806453&spn=0.004554,0.010568&t=h&z=17

But from what  I can see on Google Maps Point Dume doesn't look at all like the place in the film.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 09, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Just so dudes know

I happen to be a film maker and a writer, so if anyone is interested in making a movie similar to TBL, and has resources, I want in! I even have a bachelors degree in the damn business, even though it rarely does any good.

We could easilty whip up a script, finding investors is always the hard part.

Set design, location, and all the production jazz, is actually pretty simple.


I dunno. For what it's worth I'm interested.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 09, 2010, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 09, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Just so dudes know

I happen to be a film maker and a writer, so if anyone is interested in making a movie similar to TBL, and has resources, I want in! I even have a bachelors degree in the damn business, even though it rarely does any good.

We could easilty whip up a script, finding investors is always the hard part.

Set design, location, and all the production jazz, is actually pretty simple.


I dunno. For what it's worth I'm interested.

I have pretty much lost interest in it myself.
Talk with the Lennon. Maybe the two of you can work something out?
Maybe you can take a look at the script so far and perhaps whip it into some kind of screen play shape?
But talk with the Lennon first.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 09, 2010, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on October 20, 2010, 02:30:49 PM
According to TBL script http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/b/big-lebowski-script-screenplay.html Walter tossed Donny's ashes at Point Dume:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Map+coordinates+for+Point+Dume+State+Beach,+Malibu,+CA&mrt=loc&sll=34.000749,-118.806453&sspn=0.004332,0.010568&ie=UTF8&ll=34.000642,-118.806453&spn=0.004554,0.010568&t=h&z=17

But from what  I can see on Google Maps Point Dume doesn't look at all like the place in the film.


The real place was only a few miles (4 or 5) from where I live. It was off a point on the Palos Verdes Peninsula. If you look over Walter's shoulder, you can clearly see Catalina Island, a view from what we call "Palos Verdes Drive South." Point Dume would be 60 or so miles North of there and I doubt that you could even see Catalina island from that location.

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6195/sview.jpg)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 11, 2010, 08:43:01 AM
DB, you couldn't include a link to the actual point on google maps could you?

I just notice there's the little orange man and thought it would be good to "virtually" stand there and look round.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 18, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
It was in La Jolla!
During Walter?s Eulogy to Donny he says ??and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from La Jolla to Rio?? When Walter says La Jolla he points to the ocean in front of him indicating that is where they are. The topography looks right. I?m sure that is where they tossed Donny?s ashes. Now we just have to see if we can match the place in the film to a place on the map!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=la+jolla+california&sll=34.388779,-115.740967&sspn=4.677459,15.007324&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=La+Jolla,+San+Diego,+California&ll=32.848046,-117.277637&spn=0.00923,0.029311&t=h&z=16
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 18, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: meekon5 on November 11, 2010, 08:43:01 AM
DB, you couldn't include a link to the actual point on google maps could you?

I just notice there's the little orange man and thought it would be good to "virtually" stand there and look round.

I used to know the exact point, it was listed on http://locationfreak.com/  ,but they are redoing that site. I'll look into it again, mang.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 18, 2010, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 18, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
It was in La Jolla!
During Walter?s Eulogy to Donny he says ??and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from La Jolla to Rio?? When Walter says La Jolla he points to the ocean in front of him indicating that is where they are. The topography looks right. I?m sure that is where they tossed Donny?s ashes. Now we just have to see if we can match the place in the film to a place on the map!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=la+jolla+california&sll=34.388779,-115.740967&sspn=4.677459,15.007324&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=La+Jolla,+San+Diego,+California&ll=32.848046,-117.277637&spn=0.00923,0.029311&t=h&z=16


The La Jolla part would be a problem because La Jolla is South of L.A. County next to San Diego. Why would Donny, a resident of Los Angeles, never surf in L.A. at beaches like Redondo Beach, Manhattan Beach? Both beaches are known for surfing and the surf community and close to him.

It would have been more accurate to say that Donny "as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from Malibu (big surfing area also) to Rio."

Or the point could be made that Walter was pointing more or less South toward La Jolla when referring to where Donny surfed.

The most important point is though, as a person (me, that is) living by the coast from Catalina Island, I can tell you that the view that Walter had, and as seen over his shoulder, would not be from Point Dume because it would be seen much smaller and from a different angle (it would appear much shorter). The view in the movie over Walter's shoulder is about 25 miles away from Catalina Island. From Point Dume it would be 65 to 70 miles, look a lot smaller and be much harder to see.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 18, 2010, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 18, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
It was in La Jolla!
During Walter?s Eulogy to Donny he says ??and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from La Jolla to Rio?? When Walter says La Jolla he points to the ocean in front of him indicating that is where they are. The topography looks right. I?m sure that is where they tossed Donny?s ashes. Now we just have to see if we can match the place in the film to a place on the map!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=la+jolla+california&sll=34.388779,-115.740967&sspn=4.677459,15.007324&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=La+Jolla,+San+Diego,+California&ll=32.848046,-117.277637&spn=0.00923,0.029311&t=h&z=16


The La Jolla part would be a problem because La Jolla is South of L.A. County next to San Diego. Why would Donny, a resident of Los Angeles, never surf in L.A. at beaches like Redondo Beach, Manhattan Beach? Both beaches are known for surfing and the surf community and close to him.

It would have been more accurate to say that Donny "as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from Malibu (big surfing area also) to Rio."

Or the point could be made that Walter was pointing more or less South toward La Jolla when referring to where Donny surfed.

The most important point is though, as a person (me, that is) living by the coast from Catalina Island, I can tell you that the view that Walter had, and as seen over his shoulder, would not be from Point Dume because it would be seen much smaller and from a different angle (it would appear much shorter). The view in the movie over Walter's shoulder is about 25 miles away from Catalina Island. From Point Dume it would be 65 to 70 miles, look a lot smaller and be much harder to see.

Sorry DB, but I do not see Catalina Island in the background. Here is the clip from the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr4NbqFdWio
With Google Earth or even with Google Maps it should [not] be too hard to find the rock from this clip.
I am wonering though if maybe the scene was shot from more than one location?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 18, 2010, 11:37:20 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 18, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
It was in La Jolla!
During Walter?s Eulogy to Donny he says ??and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from La Jolla to Rio?? When Walter says La Jolla he points to the ocean in front of him indicating that is where they are. The topography looks right. I?m sure that is where they tossed Donny?s ashes. Now we just have to see if we can match the place in the film to a place on the map!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=la+jolla+california&sll=34.388779,-115.740967&sspn=4.677459,15.007324&gl=us&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=La+Jolla,+San+Diego,+California&ll=32.848046,-117.277637&spn=0.00923,0.029311&t=h&z=16


The La Jolla part would be a problem because La Jolla is South of L.A. County next to San Diego. Why would Donny, a resident of Los Angeles, never surf in L.A. at beaches like Redondo Beach, Manhattan Beach? Both beaches are known for surfing and the surf community and close to him.

It would have been more accurate to say that Donny "as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California from Malibu (big surfing area also) to Rio."

Or the point could be made that Walter was pointing more or less South toward La Jolla when referring to where Donny surfed.

The most important point is though, as a person (me, that is) living by the coast from Catalina Island, I can tell you that the view that Walter had, and as seen over his shoulder, would not be from Point Dume because it would be seen much smaller and from a different angle (it would appear much shorter). The view in the movie over Walter's shoulder is about 25 miles away from Catalina Island. From Point Dume it would be 65 to 70 miles, look a lot smaller and be much harder to see.

Sorry DB, but I do not see Catalina Island in the background.

Yo dude, of course you would see Catalina Island from both locations; Palos Verdes and Point Dume. No doubt about it, but Catalina Island would look very different from Point Dume. It would be much further away, look much smaller and on most days it might not even be visible due to haze.

The angle you see over Walter's shoulder and in other shots in that scene you posted on YouTube would be about 26 miles from Catalina and from to close to where I pointed out in the Google Earth map.


That's just, like, my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 04:45:56 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 20, 2010, 04:28:36 PM


Yo dude, of course you would see Catalina Island from both locations; Palos Verdes and Point Dume. No doubt about it, but Catalina Island would look very different from Point Dume. It would be much further away, look much smaller and on most days it might not even be visible due to haze.

The angle you see over Walter's shoulder and in other shots in that scene you posted on YouTube would be about 26 miles from Catalina and from to close to where I pointed out in the Google Earth map.
I do not think it is Point Dume, but I cannot find the rock formation they are standing on at the location you have indicated.
But then I cannot find it at La Jolla either.
Since you live so close, can you take a picture of where you say it is and post it here for us?
Thanks
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 04:45:56 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 20, 2010, 04:28:36 PM


Yo dude, of course you would see Catalina Island from both locations; Palos Verdes and Point Dume. No doubt about it, but Catalina Island would look very different from Point Dume. It would be much further away, look much smaller and on most days it might not even be visible due to haze.

The angle you see over Walter's shoulder and in other shots in that scene you posted on YouTube would be about 26 miles from Catalina and from to close to where I pointed out in the Google Earth map.
I do not think it is Point Dume, but I cannot find the rock formation they are standing on at the location you have indicated.
But then I cannot find it at La Jolla either.
Since you live so close, can you take a picture of where you say it is and post it here for us?
Thanks


I'll try and find out the exact location. Got a couple of leads, got the boys in the crime lab working in shifts. If I find out, for sure, I can drive over and take a shot.

One of the problems is that along the coast in Palos Verdes, there are a hundred locations and points that look like that in the movie scene over looking Catalina. Even if i got the general location it would be a little hard to find the exact location without exact directions.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 05:21:34 PM
I have spent hours and hours on Google Earth combing the shore line from Point Dume all the way down to La Jolla and I have not seen any location that matches the scene in the movie.
If we are to make The Little Lebowski we need that exact location for the Donny's Ghost scene. Besides, it should a holy place to all Dudeist!! 8^)
Might be a place to gather each year on the date that Donny died.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 05:39:14 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 05:21:34 PM
I have spent hours and hours on Google Earth combing the shore line from Point Dume all the way down to La Jolla and I have not seen any location that matches the scene in the movie.
If we are to make The Little Lebowski we need that exact location for the Donny's Ghost scene. Besides, it should a holy place to all Dudeist!! 8^)
Might be a place to gather each year on the date that Donny died.

Dude, check this out. Here is the scene where you can see Catalina Island (over Walter's shoulder), it's (Avalon) a VERY dude like place to hang out and party......................

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3144/catalinabiglebowski01.jpg)

Also, dude, Walter mentioned Donny surfing and exploring "Leo Carrillo" and "Pismo [Beach]" which would make more sense, because they are both North of Palos Verdes, close to Malibu and North of Venice where the Dude lived. It would make sense that Donny would surf those locations, as well as surfing down toward La Jolla which is by San Diego which is South of Palos Verdes by about 100 miles from where they are standing.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 08:44:52 PM
So where is that rock? Why can I not find it on Maps?
A rock like that should be easy to find.
It's down there some where. Let me take another look! 8^)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 08:56:52 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 08:44:52 PM
So where is that rock? Why can I not find it on Maps?

Well dude, we just don't know. Will be following a lead to try and locate it.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 20, 2010, 11:04:46 PM
Dudes, try this: http://www.uer.ca/locations/show.asp?locid=24548 (http://www.uer.ca/locations/show.asp?locid=24548)

"This location was used in the movie "The Big Lebowski" for the scene where Donny's ashes are scattered. "
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 11:35:18 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on November 20, 2010, 11:04:46 PM
Dudes, try this: http://www.uer.ca/locations/show.asp?locid=24548 (http://www.uer.ca/locations/show.asp?locid=24548)

Perfect, mang! Good find, dude. Yup, San Pedro/Palos Verdes area.

The view over Walter's back would be like this based on cakebelly's find...............

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5519/googlemap.jpg)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 11:40:46 PM
How about this one!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10455329@N08/4889028692/in/set-72157624719652746/
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 20, 2010, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 20, 2010, 11:40:46 PM
How about this one!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10455329@N08/4889028692/in/set-72157624719652746/

Perfect place for an oat soda and burger as you watch the dude like sunset. Fucking eh!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
Conformation it was Sunken City!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84243328@N00/33282157/
and:
http://devojane.blogspot.com/2005/07/big-lebowski-part-1.html
You found it Cakes!!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 21, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
Conformation it was Sunken City!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84243328@N00/33282157/
and:
http://devojane.blogspot.com/2005/07/big-lebowski-part-1.html
You found it Cakes!!

Great find dude!! Cool shit :-)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
Conformation it was Sunken City!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84243328@N00/33282157/
and:
http://devojane.blogspot.com/2005/07/big-lebowski-part-1.html
You found it Cakes!!

Great find dude!! Cool shit :-)

Now we need to know when.
On what day did Donny die?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 21, 2010, 01:18:32 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
Conformation it was Sunken City!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84243328@N00/33282157/
and:
http://devojane.blogspot.com/2005/07/big-lebowski-part-1.html
You found it Cakes!!

Great find dude!! Cool shit :-)

Now we need to know when.
On what day did Donny die?


Got any leads?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 21, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Dudes...I must say again, how can I get on this project of yours?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 21, 2010, 03:18:35 AM
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 21, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Dudes...I must say again, how can I get on this project of yours?

Well dude, we just don't know. I think The Lennon is the dude running the thread. Maybe send the dude a private message and see about abiding in the project?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 21, 2010, 10:19:29 AM
...Phillip Seymore Hoffman is a weird guy
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 21, 2010, 12:46:51 PM
Posting pics for CC: Sunken City (TBL location for Donny's ashes scene).

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/24548.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/SunkenCityTBL.jpg)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 21, 2010, 05:36:31 PM
Somewhere on that that sacred ground lay Donny's ashes. I say all dudes should meet there once a year, have a few beers a few burgers and raise our oat sodas and a coffee can to Donny.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tWr5yjsHTzA5lM:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7795/thedude.gif&t=1)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2006/07/folgers2.jpg)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 05:36:31 PM
Somewhere on that that sacred ground lay Donny's ashes. I say all dudes should meet there once a year, have a few beers a few burgers and raise our oat sodas and a coffee can to Donny.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tWr5yjsHTzA5lM:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7795/thedude.gif&t=1)


(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2006/07/folgers2.jpg)

But on what date? When did Donny die? On what date did Walter spread his ashes?
We need to know that dudes.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 21, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
Dudes...I must say again, how can I get on this project of yours?
Yo Koog-meister, I started The Little Lebowski idea early this year and invited any dude who wished to participate in writing a scene or more to help flesh it out. The Lennon was the only dude to take it seriously, but after a cleft asshole began spamming the thread the Lennon and I took it private and locked the thread. I even deleted all the replies from the thread in an attempt to keep it "unspoiled". I think I may have pissed more than a few dudes off by doing so.
By August The Lennon was going on a walk about to LA and I pretty much lost interest after scene 23 or so. It just stopped being fun and I had other fun stuff to do.
The Lennon and I were supposed to get back to re-writing the Compromised Second Draft, but I wasn't into it any more. The Lennon made a few changes to the first draft about a month or so ago, and that is were it sits now.
It needs work to polish it up into something worthy of presentation, so if you wish to have a go at it I have no objections.
You are welcome to start a new thread on The Little Lebowski topic board and copy and paste from our locked thread as you wish.
At this time neither The Lennon or I wish to make any changes to the original "script", but that may change in the future...near or far. I have not heard from The Lennon since, and have no idea if the dude is still working on the script in private or not.
But what ever is going on, the script is right here on the board for all to see so you are welcome to rework it if you wish.
If it ever gets into a something worthy of presentation I think The Dudely Lama has some plans for it...maybe??
I haven't heard from him in a while either.

Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on November 21, 2010, 12:46:51 PM
Posting pics for CC: Sunken City (TBL location for Donny's ashes scene).

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/24548.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/SunkenCityTBL.jpg)

Thanks Cakes! I seem to have forgotten how to post images again!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 21, 2010, 09:47:34 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 05:36:31 PM
Somewhere on that that sacred ground lay Donny's ashes. I say all dudes should meet there once a year, have a few beers a few burgers and raise our oat sodas and a coffee can to Donny.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tWr5yjsHTzA5lM:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7795/thedude.gif&t=1)


(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2006/07/folgers2.jpg)

But on what date? When did Donny die? On what date did Walter spread his ashes?
We need to know that dudes.

This is our concern, dude. You got any leads, I mean, are you going find this date?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 09:47:34 PM

This is our concern, dude. You got any leads, I mean, are you going find this date?

I am working on it dude.
http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=1491.0

Do you have any leads?
Anyone else?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 22, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 21, 2010, 09:47:34 PM

This is our concern, dude. You got any leads, I mean, are you going find this date?

I am working on it dude.
http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=1491.0

Do you have any leads?
Anyone else?

Was thinking that the date it was filmed would be the best date. I got the boys in the crime lab and the fucks in the league office looking into that date.

Yeah, mang, "February 22 1997" would be a little problematic.

You got any other notes?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 22, 2010, 08:42:00 AM
I thought we had all agreed this last year?

http://dudespaper.com/the-weekend-of-living-duderously.html/
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 22, 2010, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 21, 2010, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on November 21, 2010, 12:46:51 PM
Posting pics for CC: Sunken City (TBL location for Donny's ashes scene).

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/24548.jpg)

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/SunkenCityTBL.jpg)

Thanks Cakes! I seem to have forgotten how to post images again!


I have to say these are fantastic.

Perhaps we can organise a plaque or something and turn this into a site of Dudeist Pilgrimage?

(if anyone can be bothered).

Sorry didn't read the other posts properly and realised later that was what this part of the discussion was about.

But seriously didn't we set St Donny's Day and all of us attempt to meet up last March 5th?

Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 22, 2010, 03:47:53 PM
QuoteBut seriously didn't we set St Donny's Day and all of us attempt to meet up last March 5th?

Donny is a "saint?" WTF?

This is my concern, dudes; when you bestow religious trappings on a dude like so-called "sainthood" you begin to establish a dangerous religious hierarchy. AKA; I'm an "official saint," and others are not. I'm holier than thou, others are below me.

Dudes, this is beginning to sound like Catholicism and other oppressive religions with all of the undude titles like asshat priests, cardinals, nuns, fathers and the like.

Do we really want to turn Dudeism into a fucked up dead religion like Catholicism with level after level of bullshit titles, saints, no coitus (does anyone really believe they don't get some zesty coitus on the side?) and special privileges?

Next we'll start seeing shit like "patron saint of bowling," or coitus, or burgers, or what have you.

Dudeism is not a religion, it's a life style different for all dudes, not a dead religion filled with titles, rules, authority, and a stiff necked set of beliefs that will be followed or they send woo by your pad to pee on your rug.

Do we really want Dudeism to end up like these undude dipshits who sure as hell don't roll and claim to shun coitus...............

(http://blog.beliefnet.com/roddreher/Cardinals1.jpg)

Or this nihilist (Cardinal Bertone) who thinks he's are everyone's fucking park ranger.............

(http://www.vaticanbankclaims.com/august15_files/image001.jpg)

Or this extreme undude protector of child molesters..............

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/cartoons/2010/4/14/1271277959762/Pope-Benedict-XVI-Holds-W-001.jpg)


All I can say is that it's good to know he's out there taken er' easy for all us sinners.

That's like just my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 22, 2010, 04:01:52 PM
Have no idea dude?
But here is another article from the Dudespaper on The Day Donny Died:
http://dudespaper.com/the-day-donny-died.html/

I do not agree with that date either, but do not have a better date to suggest as yet.
It can not be in 1990 as someone suggested on the basis of that was the day of Bush Sr's "This Aggression Will Not Stand" speech. That can be explained as a news rebroadcast of the speech sometime in Sept of 1991.
Also dudes, no where is it stated the events taking place MUST be all in the same week or month. It is quite possible that The Dude wrote the $0.69 check at Ralph's on Sept 11, 1991 and his conversation with his landlord Marty took place in Oct of 1991.
As for Bowling, the season usually begins in Sept and the Finals are competed in May or June depending on the number of teams on the league and how many weeks they bowl. The Semi's would only be a week or two earlier.
My Monday Night league has 6 three man teams and we roll 32 weeks starting the first Monday after Labor day. Last year we rolled from 9/14 to 4/19. Regional and State competitions usually take place after or near the end of Leagues in May and/or June. But then that is here on the Right Coast, who the hell knows how they roll in LA!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 23, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
  8)@DB
Well said, although I think the Saint Donny thing is tongue-in-cheek (so to speak) . . more of a gag than anything else; there is a danger that some Dudes will take that all a little too seriously. I guess the urge to (sub-consciously or otherwise) adopt some kind of structure in our more abstract endeavours (such as spiritual yearning) is only too human. Or is it? Is it merely a learned or adopted way of approaching the great mysteries? Two thousand years of being told that one cannot approach the 'divine' without the services of a priest has royally fucked us up. The danger of being burned at the stake, stoned to death, stretched on a rack or some other vile form of retribution for those who have different ideas has imprinted a fear and mistrust of others who worship/practice in a different way. All this hierarchy BS is, in the end, just another form of social control; useful for those who do pull the strings when wars need to be waged (look at these fuckers now trying to start up a 'holy war' when all they want is to get their hands on natural resources.What use is a god if he encourages you to hate and kill? We have enough humans in power that are doing that already).

We are, are we not, all individuals (oh yeah, the Dude at the back isn't, forgot) and if we each contain (or have the potential to bring into being) a - for want of a different expression - divine spark then surely that spark is individual, too. No less or more divine than others - but different. How then can a priest even hope to understand another individual's spiritual needs? The truth is, they don't even try - they don't know how: one cannot experience the ineffable by being lectured at from a book that was constructed to bring into being - and maintain - a priestly hierarchy.

I must say that I haven't got it in for Christians - it's just that one doesn't get much of an opportunity to meet them. Oh, I know there are millions who claim to be Christians (I've been lucky enough to count two as my friends -  they've got some weird doctrinal hangovers - but they sincerely try). The Quakers are generally cool, though - I like those Dudes. There are millions who claim to be Muslims, too - some try - but the problem is, again, the hierarchy of Mullahs and what-have-yous; diverting the 'faithful' from direct experience with their God. I like the Sufis, though - Sufism, generally, is pretty darn cool. And so on - there are elements (usually frowned-upon or repressed) in all faiths that try and retain the essential truth. Which is: we don't need no stinkin' priests - we may need help and guidance - but our personal communion/experience with the divine is ours alone . . it is in fact our right. As long as you are not hurting yourself (although that is one way to enter a trance state, so I believe) or others then you are doing alright, Dude.

True Shamen (there are egotists and fakirs in all offices of 'man') will open the door for you; prepare the sacrament and may offer help if asked but he/she knows that your experience is yours and yours alone. Anyway, going off on tangents, now . . I guess all I meant to say was that we have to be on guard against such a hierarchical structure developing within Dudeism; standing jokes, over time, can become doctrine, too.

As an aside, I wonder if our post-reward system is rather undude; it may alienate others from posting on the forum (when we consider the nature of the site and the nature of our nature - we have been fucked in the ass for thousands of years). This Superdude / High Dude stuff may tickle the ego or what-have-you (and I know it is meant in fun) but I think it is a barrier for those who may feel apprehensive about making a comment on the Forum. Let's get rid of it - a Dude is a Dude, Dudes. Abide   ;D (http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/ABIDEREFLECTION.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fhGx7_AHuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fhGx7_AHuY)

http://www.mediafire.com/?j06kfdxgfscujz0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?j06kfdxgfscujz0)


Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on November 25, 2010, 03:48:00 AM
I agree with Cake. Hierarchies suck, equality is where evolution is leading us,, because deep down we all came from the same source we are all the same being experiencing different things. Therefore we are all equal and soon the majority will realize this. If everyone respected each other, there would be no wars, there would be no starving children, there would only be a world of love and understanding. And I look forward to the day when this becomes apparent for the majority of the human population.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 25, 2010, 06:48:46 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 22, 2010, 03:47:53 PM
QuoteBut seriously didn't we set St Donny's Day and all of us attempt to meet up last March 5th?

Donny is a "saint?" WFT?...

etc

Whoa there cowboy.

DB you of all people should know by know not to take anything I say so seriously. How many times have i gotten into trouble baiting the christians, and I am usually the first on the soap box if i think someone is trying to "christianise" Dudeism.

I was in no way suggesting we start making people saints (even though I have been a Pope for many years now All hail Eris (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/43.php))

I was actually (in my usual befuddled way) trying to point out that I attended a day (there are pictures so I'm fairly sure about this one) that was sort of a Dudeist Holiday (that we had agreed on).

A very good point is made by CC

Quote from: cckeiser on November 22, 2010, 04:01:52 PM
...no where is it stated the events taking place MUST be all in the same week or month. It is quite possible that The Dude wrote the $0.69 check at Ralph's on Sept 11, 1991 and his conversation with his landlord Marty took place in Oct of 1991...

Actually a very good point of view I'd not considered. Don't mean to be condescending there CC.

Quote from: cakebelly on November 23, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
 8)@DB
Well said, although I think the Saint Donny thing is tongue-in-cheek (so to speak) . . I must say that I haven't got it in for Christians - it's just that one doesn't get much of an opportunity to meet them....

Except Sunday morning when my "Ordained Dudeist Priest" sticker in the window has given them what they think is leverage into my head (bloody jehovahs), and they are knocking on my door to try and discuss their damnable magazine (Also the effect of the human skulls in the window seems to have worn off).

Again I say most of you know I'm the first on the soap box whenever I think someone is trying to "christianise" Dudeism, for instance look at my rants in the Dudeist Paper about evangelism, and the number of times I've fallen out with christians on this forum over their overt (or not so overt) attempts to push the whole Dudeist bicycle (possibly unicycle) in the direction of their masonic hierarchical, misogynistic, monotheistic, monopoly.

In My Considered Opinion.
(Bums to the rest of you).
;D
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 25, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
"(Also the effect of the human skulls in the window seems to have worn off)."

;D You are probably marked on their books as the major challenge in the area; they only send their crack ninja witnesses to your place (there is probably some big prize for whoever gets a foot inside your door).

I think we were just kicking around the concept of hierarchies and certainly not the concept of a Meekon ;D A Meekon is a good thing to have on planet Earth - we abide with the Meekon (in the fifth incarnation, the fourth one was a bastard). We know you are the last Dude to be in favour of all the BS we were down on. I guess I should have read back a little and made that clear, Dude. I reckon DB knows that, too (although I shouldn't speak for anyone else) - 'we' are just down on the Catholics . . it's easy to trigger us off  ;D

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/F9247A93-552C-48A8-8DE0-ABF0AF8C63D2.gif)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 25, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
 ;D Black Books: Jehovah's Witnesses scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10PvpbPJZw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10PvpbPJZw) well, part one, anyway.

Thoughts of religion prompt acts of punishment: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19760-thoughts-of-religion-prompt-acts-of-punishment.html (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19760-thoughts-of-religion-prompt-acts-of-punishment.html)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 25, 2010, 05:36:58 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on November 23, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
  8)@DB
Well said, although I think the Saint Donny thing is tongue-in-cheek (so to speak) . . more of a gag than anything else; there is a danger that some Dudes will take that all a little too seriously. I guess the urge to (sub-consciously or otherwise) adopt some kind of structure in our more abstract endeavours (such as spiritual yearning) is only too human. Or is it? Is it merely a learned or adopted way of approaching the great mysteries? Two thousand years of being told that one cannot approach the 'divine' without the services of a priest has royally fucked us up. The danger of being burned at the stake, stoned to death, stretched on a rack or some other vile form of retribution for those who have different ideas has imprinted a fear and mistrust of others who worship/practice in a different way. All this hierarchy BS is, in the end, just another form of social control; useful for those who do pull the strings when wars need to be waged (look at these fuckers now trying to start up a 'holy war' when all they want is to get their hands on natural resources.What use is a god if he encourages you to hate and kill? We have enough humans in power that are doing that already).

We are, are we not, all individuals (oh yeah, the Dude at the back isn't, forgot) and if we each contain (or have the potential to bring into being) a - for want of a different expression - divine spark then surely that spark is individual, too. No less or more divine than others - but different. How then can a priest even hope to understand another individual's spiritual needs? The truth is, they don't even try - they don't know how: one cannot experience the ineffable by being lectured at from a book that was constructed to bring into being - and maintain - a priestly hierarchy.

I must say that I haven't got it in for Christians - it's just that one doesn't get much of an opportunity to meet them. Oh, I know there are millions who claim to be Christians (I've been lucky enough to count two as my friends -  they've got some weird doctrinal hangovers - but they sincerely try). The Quakers are generally cool, though - I like those Dudes. There are millions who claim to be Muslims, too - some try - but the problem is, again, the hierarchy of Mullahs and what-have-yous; diverting the 'faithful' from direct experience with their God. I like the Sufis, though - Sufism, generally, is pretty darn cool. And so on - there are elements (usually frowned-upon or repressed) in all faiths that try and retain the essential truth. Which is: we don't need no stinkin' priests - we may need help and guidance - but our personal communion/experience with the divine is ours alone . . it is in fact our right. As long as you are not hurting yourself (although that is one way to enter a trance state, so I believe) or others then you are doing alright, Dude.

True Shamen (there are egotists and fakirs in all offices of 'man') will open the door for you; prepare the sacrament and may offer help if asked but he/she knows that your experience is yours and yours alone. Anyway, going off on tangents, now . . I guess all I meant to say was that we have to be on guard against such a hierarchical structure developing within Dudeism; standing jokes, over time, can become doctrine, too.

As an aside, I wonder if our post-reward system is rather undude; it may alienate others from posting on the forum (when we consider the nature of the site and the nature of our nature - we have been fucked in the ass for thousands of years). This Superdude / High Dude stuff may tickle the ego or what-have-you (and I know it is meant in fun) but I think it is a barrier for those who may feel apprehensive about making a comment on the Forum. Let's get rid of it - a Dude is a Dude, Dudes. Abide   ;D (http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/ABIDEREFLECTION.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fhGx7_AHuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fhGx7_AHuY)

http://www.mediafire.com/?j06kfdxgfscujz0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?j06kfdxgfscujz0)


Whoa, now that is a lot of stuff to consider. Will have to read and respond after turkey today, mang!  ;D
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 25, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: cakebelly on November 25, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
"(Also the effect of the human skulls in the window seems to have worn off)."

;D You are probably marked on their books as the major challenge in the area; they only send their crack ninja witnesses to your place (there is probably some big prize for whoever gets a foot inside your door).

I think we were just kicking around the concept of hierarchies and certainly not the concept of a Meekon ;D A Meekon is a good thing to have on planet Earth - we abide with the Meekon (in the fifth incarnation, the fourth one was a bastard). We know you are the last Dude to be in favour of all the BS we were down on. I guess I should have read back a little and made that clear, Dude. I reckon DB knows that, too (although I shouldn't speak for anyone else) - 'we' are just down on the Catholics . . it's easy to trigger us off  ;D

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n262/cakebelly/F9247A93-552C-48A8-8DE0-ABF0AF8C63D2.gif)

Oh for sure, Meekon dude, just kicking a few concepts around (not to mention kicking a few religious undudes around like the asshats in the red robes and goofy looking fish hats), causing some shit for fun and to some degree expressing a few "that's just like my opinion, man" in the family restaurant here. So no harm intended.  ;D

I KNOW MY RIGHTS, MAN! The Supreme has roundly rejected prior restraint!  ;D

I'm staying, enjoying my coffee..................


PS, if you are in the States, or hell, anywhere...........HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!! Hope it's very dude like for all!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 25, 2010, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: The Lennon on November 25, 2010, 03:48:00 AM
I agree with Cake. Hierarchies suck, equality is where evolution is leading us,, because deep down we all came from the same source we are all the same being experiencing different things. Therefore we are all equal and soon the majority will realize this. If everyone respected each other, there would be no wars, there would be no starving children, there would only be a world of love and understanding. And I look forward to the day when this becomes apparent for the majority of the human population.

Sounds like an uncomprimised first draft, fucking eh.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on November 26, 2010, 04:35:48 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on November 22, 2010, 08:42:00 AM
I thought we had all agreed this last year?

http://dudespaper.com/the-weekend-of-living-duderously.html/


Oh shit, I forgot about that. Yup, sounds like a worthy fucking date. Thanks for posting that, meekon5 dude.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 26, 2010, 02:01:58 PM
I guess I missed something dudes. Why March 5th?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 26, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
I am the walrus.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 26, 2010, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: cckeiser on November 26, 2010, 02:01:58 PM
I guess I missed something dudes. Why March 5th?


Basically I think after a lot of discussion it was generally agreed that no-one else claimed that date so we would have it. Check the paper and some forum discussions that happened earlier on in the year.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 26, 2010, 02:59:57 PM
Well I am watching TBL as we speak, and while in the grocery store the dude pays for some milk and that date is


September 11, 1991.  9/11  1991 (significant in many regards) 

THEREFORE  Donnie died on what, september 15?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 26, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
 
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 26, 2010, 02:59:57 PM
Well I am watching TBL as we speak, and while in the grocery store the dude pays for some milk and that date is


September 11, 1991.  9/11  1991 (significant in many regards) 

THEREFORE  Donnie died on what, september 15?

Self correction, the date is later than that, at least by a week.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 26, 2010, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on November 25, 2010, 05:46:00 PM
Oh for sure, Meekon dude, just kicking a few concepts around (not to mention kicking a few religious undudes around like the asshats in the red robes and goofy looking fish hats), causing some shit for fun and to some degree expressing a few "that's just like my opinion, man" in the family restaurant here. So no harm intended.  ;D

I KNOW MY RIGHTS, MAN! The Supreme has roundly rejected prior restraint!  ;D

I'm staying, enjoying my coffee..................


PS, if you are in the States, or hell, anywhere...........HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!! Hope it's very dude like for all!

I get a bit skittish because of the way I write sometimes, I am dyslexic, and work in IT, so don't always come across the way I actually mean (write exactly and precisely and forget the twiddly bits other people seem to think should go into e-mails). I have had instances at work where American colleagues have complained that my e-mails are rude, and I've had a couple of tussles with certain individuals on this forum (who funnily enough no longer post here). So occasionally I worry too much that I may have accidentally upset someone.  ;D

Though I am told if you know me and read me e-mails they are very funny in the way I treat people.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 26, 2010, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 26, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: Koog-meister on November 26, 2010, 02:59:57 PM
Well I am watching TBL as we speak, and while in the grocery store the dude pays for some milk and that date is


September 11, 1991.  9/11  1991 (significant in many regards) 

THEREFORE  Donnie died on what, september 15?

Self correction, the date is later than that, at least by a week.

Koog, dude, I go with CC's point earlier, there is no suggestion that the film is chronological or that any of the scenes happen in a set time space.

I think the best we can do is say Donny died after the Grocery store scene and the date but not how close to that date he died on, days, weeks or even months could have passed, we will just never know.

;D
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on November 26, 2010, 04:17:34 PM

Quote from: Koog-meister on November 09, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Just so dudes know

I happen to be a film maker and a writer, so if anyone is interested in making a movie similar to TBL, and has resources, I want in! I even have a bachelors degree in the damn business, even though it rarely does any good.

We could easilty whip up a script, finding investors is always the hard part.

Set design, location, and all the production jazz, is actually pretty simple.


I dunno. For what it's worth I'm interested.

That may be a possibility, I have been a producer for a while and I know many actors. The only thing is that The Dude and Walter wouldn't be played by the originals, but I suppose if we get someone to do a good enough job to pass off as them I think it could still be a good fan movie. Like that fan made star trek.

Whereabouts do you live?
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 26, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
Lots
Quote from: meekon5 on November 26, 2010, 03:07:14 PM

Koog, dude, I go with CC's point earlier, there is no suggestion that the film is chronological or that any of the scenes happen in a set time space.

I think the best we can do is say Donny died after the Grocery store scene and the date but not how close to that date he died on, days, weeks or even months could have passed, we will just never know.

;D
You're not privy to all the new shit, but that is what you pay me for.
Lot of ins and a lot of outs, but I am keeping my mind limber and working on the case.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 26, 2010, 07:29:56 PM
ah ha, I see, I've jumped the gun. Well I apologize, and there really is no way to tell the chronology of the movie. What with the bowling season included, it still makes it difficult...

Quote from: The Lennon on November 26, 2010, 04:17:34 PM

Quote from: Koog-meister on November 09, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Just so dudes know

I happen to be a film maker and a writer, so if anyone is interested in making a movie similar to TBL, and has resources, I want in! I even have a bachelors degree in the damn business, even though it rarely does any good.

We could easilty whip up a script, finding investors is always the hard part.

Set design, location, and all the production jazz, is actually pretty simple.


I dunno. For what it's worth I'm interested.

That may be a possibility, I have been a producer for a while and I know many actors. The only thing is that The Dude and Walter wouldn't be played by the originals, but I suppose if we get someone to do a good enough job to pass off as them I think it could still be a good fan movie. Like that fan made star trek.

Whereabouts do you live?

Unfortunately I currently live in Pensacola, but any excuse to move to California regarding the work of dudeism is worthy of attention. I don't have kids and I'm not married so I have the luxury of traveling freely.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on November 26, 2010, 10:39:17 PM
Yeah, and here is the problem dudes, if you note when Donny had his heart attack he was wearing a light jacket and The Dude was wearing a bulky sweater. But when Walter and The Dude spread Donny?s ashes they were standing there in shirt sleeves. This tells us that the temperatures had to be cool at night; say 55 to 65, and comfortable during the day; say 75 to 80 maybe.
When do these temperature swings from say 55 at night to 75 or 80 during the day exist in L.A.?
http://www.losangeles.com/weather/
Pretty much from September to May!
Can any of you L.A. dudes narrow it down a little?

And dudes, it's not that I have anything against March 5th as a day to honnor Donny, it's just that I would like a little more of a reason than it's just a date not taken.
Given all the clues in the TBL, I am sure we can narrow it down to at least a month.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: Abideist on November 26, 2010, 11:47:56 PM
Hmmm...Short of calling up the coens (by the way can't wait for the new western flick this dec) i suggest if anyone has the time and the patience, to use the approximate method of star charting, mapping and what not.

I dont remember if there is a tilt shot of the night sky when he's laying on the ground, but if there is you could go to the position and do a little astronimcal alignment, or possible if you're really really smart, you could go to the bluffs and take the suns position for that day and easily ascertain it's seasonal position, that would at least give you the month, however it would have to be a direct shot of the sun in the film, simply going off shadows wouldn't work, because even in daylight filming high watt tungsten and day glo's are used to pop the scene, however, the rocks in the shots were not soaked or wet down so maybe it was bright and reflective enough that day and remote enough to not be an issue...

Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 27, 2010, 02:28:39 AM
 8) Okay, here's my tuppence worth: most - if not all (Meekon would  know) religious holidays are a mash of older 'sacred' days (Christmas was plastered over Saturnalia which, before that was Yule or Solstice - pretty much the same with Easter . . and , you know, what-have-you. In this regard they are all a fiction. Folks just plumped for a day (that was already there - or near abouts - to reinforce the new religious order). The Day of the Dead is the next day after All Saints Day, blah, blah, blah. As regards TBL: the day wasn't scripted - as others have  pointed out - in this fiction it ain't there . . so you are free to pick. Personally I don't really go in for religious holidays . . I don't feel it. If it were me I would have a day that was set aside to remember all Dudes that have passed and call it Dead Dudes Day (or whatever) and have it, as near as you can get to the day you think Donny died. At least with a day that was set aside for real Dudes that have died we (or rather, I) might be inspired to burn a candle and a J. Just a thought. Abide.
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Dead Dude Day: This one was a bastard - green screen (on the original movies) screwed a lot of
the editing up; so I had to keep chopping and putting them through various different treatments. In the end I just got fed-up and threw it up on You Tube, anyway. This one features footage of Sunken City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlVzwNBba0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlVzwNBba0)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on November 28, 2010, 08:48:55 AM
I've said it before, I like the Erisian Religious Holiday concept, just declare one whenever you want. Much like Bender In Fururama celebrating Robonica (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-futurama-holiday-spectacular,47997/).
Title: Re: Update! The Day Donny Died
Post by: cckeiser on November 29, 2010, 12:45:44 AM
As I mentioned I have been looking into the Day Donny Died. Been running through TBL looking for more clues. But it's what I didn't find that I found interesting. There are no decorations!
Ok, if we start with Ralph's on September 11, 1991 then follow with The Dude and his landlord Marty talking about "tomorrows already the 10th" which I think we can assume would be the 10th of October, then the day Donny died must be in 1992. Why? Because there are no decorations anywhere to be seen. In late October there would have been Halloween decorations on houses and in the family diner, in November there would have been Thanksgiving decorations and in December there would have been Christmas decorations everywhere, even in the bowling alley. Given there were none at all to be seen anywhere, and that they are rolling in the semis, which do not usually that place until near the end of the regular league season which usually runs September to March or April, I think we can rule out Donny dying any time in 1991. And because of the weather I mentioned before, where the day Donny died he was wearing a jacket and The Dude a sweater at night, but The Dude and Walter were spreading his ashes on the beach in just shirtsleeves, it could not have been in January or February since it is way to cold even during the day in those months to be running around on the beach in just shirt sleeves. And in February there would be Valentine decorations in the diner windows.
April would be a little too late for the semis, so it had to be March where the temperatures are pretty much right and we would no longer see any type of decorations for anything for a few more months.
On March 5th it was 55 that night and would require a jacket or sweater. It was also a Thursday. We know the team bowled on Wednesdays, but they practiced on Thursdays, which is what they had just finish doing when they were attacked by Nihilists.

Like I said, I had no problem with March 5th, I just needed more of a reason then "it's not already taken"!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on November 29, 2010, 01:09:41 AM
 ;D Phew! Well through dogged determination you got your date, Dude - kudos! So, is it going to be "St. Donny's Day", "Dead Dude's Day", "Ash Day" or "What Have You Day"?

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Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on December 02, 2010, 09:57:07 PM
Sorry dude, it's just the day Donney died, I guess.
But that's like just my opinion dude.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on December 05, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
Good news everyone! I'm working with The Dudely Lama to finally turn The Little Lebowski into a book!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on December 05, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
Quote from: The Lennon on December 05, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
Good news everyone! I'm working with The Dudely Lama to finally turn The Little Lebowski into a book!

Far fucking out. Sounds like it will really tie the story together.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on December 05, 2010, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: The Lennon on December 05, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
Good news everyone! I'm working with The Dudely Lama to finally turn The Little Lebowski into a book!
Great dude, can't wait to see how it turns out!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on December 11, 2010, 12:42:30 AM
Hey dudes!
According to this calendar:
http://dudespaper.com/dudeist-events/
Kerabotamas is this Monday the 13!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: The Lennon on December 27, 2010, 01:03:37 AM
Just letting you know that I'm still in the editing process, I'm taking my time and I should be finished by January. Fresh for the new year!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: jjvicars on June 02, 2011, 09:23:57 AM
I was wondering whatever happened with THE LITTLE LEBOWSKI, thinking if a movie never happened it would make a great book. So I cruise by and find this thread from late last year. Did the book ever come out? What about the talk of a fan movie? I may be able to help you guys with the book, working on one myself right now about the Austin music scene during the 80's (SRV, T-birds, Tail Gators, et al.) and have a buddy who's independently published several books. And of course if you guys do a movie I'd love to help out with the music and audio. Contact me through my website if there's anything in the works.

J.J. Vicars
Hard Drivin' Blues, Boogie & Rock 'n' Roll
http://www.jjvicars.com
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on June 02, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
Quote from: jjvicars on June 02, 2011, 09:23:57 AM
I was wondering whatever happened with THE LITTLE LEBOWSKI, thinking if a movie never happened it would make a great book. So I cruise by and find this thread from late last year. Did the book ever come out? What about the talk of a fan movie? I may be able to help you guys with the book, working on one myself right now about the Austin music scene during the 80's (SRV, T-birds, Tail Gators, et al.) and have a buddy who's independently published several books. And of course if you guys do a movie I'd love to help out with the music and audio. Contact me through my website if there's anything in the works.

J.J. Vicars
Hard Drivin' Blues, Boogie & Rock 'n' Roll
http://www.jjvicars.com

Well dude we just don't know. The Lennon has been missing for some time now. No reply to emails either.
But talk to the Dudely Lama anyway if you would like to do something with The Little Lebowski.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: meekon5 on June 02, 2011, 11:32:38 AM
Quote from: cckeiser on June 02, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
..Well dude we just don't know. The Lennon has been missing for some time now. No reply to emails either...

"The Lennon has been missing for some time now."

Oh how quickly they come and go!
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cakebelly on June 25, 2011, 01:52:49 AM
I got a text from him at New Year  - he'd got himself into some kind of ashram (but may have moved on since then).
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: jjvicars on August 21, 2011, 02:10:34 AM
Since the story is posted online that means it's already published. Therefore it's really a matter of him getting paid, as half-owner of this intellectual property, his share of whatever monies are generated from a book or movie or what have you. Set up an escrow account in his name and pay it there and when he resurfaces everything should be kosher. He'll have whatever money is due him (which he probably wouldn't be expecting, a nice surprise) and again since it's already published online I don't see why he would have any objections to somebody developing it into a book or movie so long as it's done right.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: DigitalBuddha on August 21, 2011, 04:47:31 AM
Quote from: cakebelly on June 25, 2011, 01:52:49 AM
I got a text from him at New Year  - he'd got himself into some kind of ashram (but may have moved on since then).

This is our concern, dude; hope the Lennon dude is OK and still abiding.
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on August 21, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
I heard from the Lennon...the ball is back  in my court dudes.
Just let me know if anyone is interested in doing something with the Little Lebowski...I'm easy. 8)
Title: Re: Update!
Post by: cckeiser on August 21, 2011, 01:53:31 PM
Resent post from The Lennon.
http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=2536.msg21368#msg21368