Hi dudes....it's been a while and I've been taking her easy....
Now as we know the dude smokes weed...you may smoke weed....I love to smoke weed but am contractually obligated not to smoke weed while I work for this company (gotta feed the monkey you understand!)
Excuse my rambling...now where was I? Oh yeah...weed.
If Rastafarians can have weed as a tenet of there religion can we not do the same? Can we maybe insist on it on religious grounds?
Can we offer it as a principle (not insisting that one smokes but insisting that one has the right to?) Therefore allowing me to smoke but not be intoxicated on the premises you understand?
Only partly joshing...anyone out here know the law?
Peace Dudes
Reverend John.
I think the Rasta are "permitted" only by an understanding.
I found this on Yahoo answers:
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In 2002, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled to limit federal prosecutions of Rastafarians who use marijuana for sacramental purposes on federal property or in U.S. territories. The judges determined that protections granted by a 1993 federal religious-freedom law permits the personal use and possession of marijuana - but not the sale or importation of marijuana - for religious purposes.
This decision is about 5 years old. I do not know if it was overturned or not since that time.
There is some ground in the human rights act to claim it as a sacrament, but the act does disallow breaking local (country, state, county whatever) laws.
I believe the legislation at the moment in the UK is it's not illegal to grow it, but it is illegal to harvest it. Though there are special licenses for the low THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol the main active compound in weed) version that is being grown for rope and paper and clothing use.
Then there's all the sale and using legislation.
We are loosely based in Taoism, most agree, and Taoism has several instances of cannabis use, Wa MU the Hemp Goddess is but one. Then there is KENAH BOSM, look that up for a laugh, turns out Gawd is a drug dealer.
Quote from: revgms on September 22, 2010, 01:33:41 PM
We are loosely based in Taoism, most agree, and Taoism has several instances of cannabis use, Wa MU the Hemp Goddess is but one. Then there is KENAH BOSM, look that up for a laugh, turns out Gawd is a drug dealer.
You got some links on this please?
I tried "Wa MU the Hemp Goddess" but got Bast (http://www.teenwitch.com/DEITY/KMT/HEMP.HTM). Which is quite interesting as she has been one of my deities for ages because of the obvious cat connection, and I did not know about the hemp connection (as a pagan your gods choose you for their won reasons ;D).
Check this out Dudes:
Bast is the Goddess of enlightenment (symbolized by both cats and the rising sun). There is the obvious connection of the spiritual altered state of consciousness that some experience while under the influence of marijuana, hashish, bhang, and other herbal hemp preparations. She is Goddess of cats and the dawn, two important Tameran (ancient Egyptian) symbols for enlightenment. The Tamerans believed that enlightenment was a gift from the Goddess and was delivered to the human mind in the form of artistic inspiration. Painters, sculptors. poets, musicians, storytellers, dancers, and other members of the artistic community were at the forefront of the priesthood.
The Tamerans (ancient Egyptians) believed in a strong connection between physical pleasure and enlightenment. Food, sex, drugs, music, and dance all have clear magical and religious significance. Marijuana, as well as other plants with drug effects (especially poppies and mushrooms), was used extensively in Tameran magical and religous ceremonies and rituals.
New shit has come to light (thank you StumbleUpon (http://www.stumbleupon.com/)).
Top 10 Common Myths About Cannabis (http://listverse.com/2009/01/26/top-10-common-myths-about-cannabis/).
;D
We say it for centuries, but people still need it to be published? this what happens when you lie to your kids about Santa and the tooth fairy, they start to think everything they were told was a lie.
Quote from: RevWade on September 24, 2010, 10:34:53 AM
...this what happens when you lie to your kids about Santa and the tooth fairy, they start to think everything they were told was a lie.
It is isn't it?
Sorry, it was Ma Gu, http://www.wayofinfiniteharmony.org/who-is-ma-gu/
Our cannabis laws are stupid, they make our species look like ass backwards idiots. No wonder ET wont come visit us, one look at how we treat this issue would make any civilized being shake their head and walk away.
Here, we all know it is a spiritual enhancer, it promotes stillness, and gives awareness of interbeing. It is not required or discouraged, but it is understood.
Limbering up, is a real and factual, spiritual aspect of Dudeism, one we share with many of our compeers.
Well said, Dude.
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Dude, I was so high when I wrote that ;)
Fair to say you were well-toasted, then? ::) ;D
I did not watch my buddies die face down in the mud so some neocon fuck could start another war to abolish drugs. Harsh truth, that war is lost too, except those vaginal fucks keep using up our treasure to prosecute unwinnable efforts so some national/domestic security agency can continue to be funded to protect us against some conjured up threat. Am I wrong? Okay then. Believe me dude, that's the stress talkin'. Can you blame any "bum" for not looking/wanting a job, or knowing what day it is? And I don't want to be cheered up. At least until the "bums" win. Ah, Fuck it!
An article on why parents should get behind the campaign to legalize herb: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/148278/why_parents_should_support_legalizing_pot/ (http://www.alternet.org/drugs/148278/why_parents_should_support_legalizing_pot/)
Quote from: meekon5 on September 24, 2010, 10:39:20 AM
Quote from: RevWade on September 24, 2010, 10:34:53 AM
...this what happens when you lie to your kids about Santa and the tooth fairy, they start to think everything they were told was a lie.
It is isn't it?
fucking-a right. it is our duty to lie to them as often as possible; otherwise, how will they be motivated to figure things out for themselves?
8)
Here is some good straight up info http://www.equalrights4all.org/fcda/tenthings.html (http://www.equalrights4all.org/fcda/tenthings.html).
8) Cool link, Dude
Good info Dude.
Anyone here a member of Change.org? They are having a petition drive to get Willie Nelson to put on a fund raiser concert for cannabis prohibition repeal.
After his arrest last month in Texas, Willie has formed the Teapot Party, we lean a little to the left, the leaning to the left may be a play on how we generally pass to the left.
Pass or puff, it is up to you, but prohibition is corrosive to our society and human spirituality.
Peace Dudes.
This is a great topic, and one I truly believe the theologically non-square community should be instrumental in perpetuating down through the ages.
The religious implications of drug prohibition are deep and wide-ranging, with a lotta ins and a lotta outs. I see, at the heart of the prohibition issue, the fundamental question of whether or not consenting individuals have the right to fully explore their own minds and souls.
The search for enlightenment means vastly different things to different people, after all. If one person's quest for knowledge compels him to adhere to a strict drug regimen to keep his mind limber, then that's cool.
The thing is, good luck convincing politicians of the religious significance of mind-altering substances. Both major parties tend to consist of real reactionaries whose thinking about this issue has become very uptight.
Just get a legal medical prescription!!
Quote from: Sailing Dude on December 25, 2010, 02:12:38 PM
Just get a legal medical prescription!!
My wife did that. She simply went to her doctor and claimed she had terrible migraines. ;D She was given a permit to possess and use hemp. The problem is that it is legal for her to do so based on California law, but NOT based on federal law. In other words, example; she could still be busted by a federal marshal for possession in California.
Can you imagine that bullshit? The federal government is dumb enough to believe that it has the right to tell you that you cannot burn a J. OVER THE FUCKING LINE!!!
The mindless shit-for-brains assholes running Washington know that it is only a matter of time before hemp is legalized for the entire United States. It's only a matter of time before the public forces the feds to do as the majority of the country wants -- Hemp legalized and federal hands off!
But like any dying entity, they hold on to power in desperation as long as they can. They can't stop the truth and they can't stop factual information spreading; AKA; WikiLeaks.
I say...........
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I'm 60 and have arthritis and got my prescription and with a medical card the local cops just walked the other way after checking my card and all the west coast states Cal, Or, WA and Alaska having medical approved they really don't care if your low key about usage and don't publicly share your smoke and that's OK by me my legal 24 dried cured Oz's stash goes further.
Quote from: Sailing Dude on December 26, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
I'm 60 and have arthritis and got my prescription and with a medical card the local cops just walked the other way after checking my card and all the west coast states Cal, Or, WA and Alaska having medical approved they really don't care if your low key about usage and don't publicly share your smoke and that's OK by me my legal 24 dried cured Oz's stash goes further.
Cool dude, but it doesn't help us here in PA.
Shit dude we still got State Stores for hard liquor.
And it wasn't that long ago we finally overturned the Blue Laws where it was forbidden to do business on Sunday.
Medical is great, but the problem is prohibition, we need to tax it, regulate it and legalize it. It is now a race to see what state goes legalize first, it will take a lot of work (I know, sounds exhausting, but afterwards we can all take a well deserved nap), but it is time to start gearing up for the 2012 Tsunami of legalization. My money is on New England having the first legalize state.
Quote from: cckeiser on December 26, 2010, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: Sailing Dude on December 26, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
I'm 60 and have arthritis and got my prescription and with a medical card the local cops just walked the other way after checking my card and all the west coast states Cal, Or, WA and Alaska having medical approved they really don't care if your low key about usage and don't publicly share your smoke and that's OK by me my legal 24 dried cured Oz's stash goes further.
Cool dude, but it doesn't help us here in PA.
Shit dude we still got State Stores for hard liquor.
And it wasn't that long ago we finally overturned the Blue Laws where it was forbidden to do business on Sunday.
"Blue law" Is that some kind of Quaker thing?
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Quote from: revgms on December 26, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Medical is great, but the problem is prohibition, we need to tax it, regulate it and legalize it. It is now a race to see what state goes legalize first, it will take a lot of work (I know, sounds exhausting, but afterwards we can all take a well deserved nap), but it is time to start gearing up for the 2012 Tsunami of legalization. My money is on New England having the first legalize state.
If "we the people" were really running the United States instead of a small bunch of silly hysterical ignorant morons such as the Bush family and the like, hemp would have never been illegal.
It's sad that a few pea brained idiots call the shots for an entire nation.
Quote from: digitalbuddha on December 26, 2010, 08:21:52 PM
"Blue law" Is that some kind of Quaker thing?
No, it was a Christian thing.
Blue for the Virgin Mary.
Quote from: digitalbuddha on December 26, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: revgms on December 26, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Medical is great, but the problem is prohibition, we need to tax it, regulate it and legalize it. It is now a race to see what state goes legalize first, it will take a lot of work (I know, sounds exhausting, but afterwards we can all take a well deserved nap), but it is time to start gearing up for the 2012 Tsunami of legalization. My money is on New England having the first legalize state.
If "we the people" were really running the United States instead of a small bunch of silly hysterical ignorant morons such as the Bush family and the like, hemp would have never been illegal.
It's sad that a few pea brained idiots call the shots for an entire nation.
We were sold into slavery when Wilson established The Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
That effectively put the whole country in the pockets of the Bankers and Big Business, and at the same time created the Golden Rule of The US: He who has the gold makes the rules!
Quote from: cckeiser on December 26, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on December 26, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: revgms on December 26, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Medical is great, but the problem is prohibition, we need to tax it, regulate it and legalize it. It is now a race to see what state goes legalize first, it will take a lot of work (I know, sounds exhausting, but afterwards we can all take a well deserved nap), but it is time to start gearing up for the 2012 Tsunami of legalization. My money is on New England having the first legalize state.
If "we the people" were really running the United States instead of a small bunch of silly hysterical ignorant morons such as the Bush family and the like, hemp would have never been illegal.
It's sad that a few pea brained idiots call the shots for an entire nation.
We were sold into slavery when Wilson established The Federal Reserve Act in 1913.
That effectively put the whole country in the pockets of the Bankers and Big Business, and at the same time created the Golden Rule of The US: He who has the gold makes the rules!
Fucking eh, we were! I love the phony titled they named it; "The Federal Reserve" .....it's neither "federal" or a "reserve." It's a private bank with the IRS as it's collection agency, nothing more other than a massive debt machine used to control the money and the country.
Quote from: cckeiser on December 26, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on December 26, 2010, 08:21:52 PM
"Blue law" Is that some kind of Quaker thing?
No, it was a Christian thing.
Blue for the Virgin Mary.
Cool. But I have always wondered why she is still referred to as the "virgin" Mary when she is recorded as having at least two sons and two daughters after Jesus dude was born.
We just don't know.
Quote from: cckeiser on December 27, 2010, 12:22:37 AM
We just don't know.
How about "The Retired Virgin Mary?" 8)
Lol, she will from now on be referred to in Dudeism as "Retired Virgin Mary", praise dude.
Quote from: The Lennon on December 27, 2010, 12:50:56 AM
Lol, she will from now on be referred to in Dudeism as "Retired Virgin Mary", praise dude.
Far out, Lennon dude. Yeah, it seems to me that the church (Catholic Church mostly) would do better to admit that the record shows that she did not remain a virgin (as claimed). They already maintain enough bullshit as it is. Their centuries of claiming nonsense and fairy stories has hurt them far more than helped. The earth is 'the center of the solar system?" Yup, sure it is.
Prohibition, Blue laws and greedy bankers are so unDude. I would say Dudeism should exclude folks who do these things, but that would be unDude too, thing is, they hate already us, so no need to keep them out.
Why live in states that are backwards MOVE SOME WHERE ELSE!!!!
they hate already us? seems I had a Yoda moment.
Quote from: Sailing Dude on December 27, 2010, 11:23:04 AM
Why live in states that are backwards MOVE SOME WHERE ELSE!!!!
Job and family dude...job and family.
Also dude, I don't believe in "love it or leave it". I prefer to stay and try and make it better.
Quote from: cckeiser on December 27, 2010, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: Sailing Dude on December 27, 2010, 11:23:04 AM
Why live in states that are backwards MOVE SOME WHERE ELSE!!!!
Job and family dude...job and family.
Also dude, I don't believe in "love it or leave it". I prefer to stay and try and make it better.
But dude, what about the ol' proverb, "if you can't stand the marmot, get out of the bathtub"?
I agree that getting a good game is somewhat important, but getting to the semi's takes more strategy, and some can't take the heat of flashing their piece out on the lanes, if you catch my drift. ;) We can't all be Walters, there is bound to be a Smokey somewhere.
Sometimes it's important to make that practical retreat, and let someone else have a turn while you regroup and prepare for the time when someone in need says "It's your roll".