just imagine if we had actual churches, i can picture it now an old church and as you walk in the door there is a bowling alleywhere the aisle once was......cool idea don't you think or is too undude.......dudeists could just get together and well......do next to nothing except chill out and bowl
Dude, I've been thinking about this for about a year now. If I were to design a dudeist church I'd do it like the folks at Earthship Biotecture. No heating or cooling, self contained sewage, provides food in it's green house, collects rain and snow for water, or should I say, these houses abide.
Quote from: RevWade on March 21, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
Dude, I've been thinking about this for about a year now. If I were to design a dudeist church I'd do it like the folks at Earthship Biotecture. No heating or cooling, self contained sewage, provides food in it's green house, collects rain and snow for water, or should I say, these houses abide.
This is something I've pondered about too. I'm not one to place too much importance on a building but it would be cool to have a place to congregate. I'd never heard of Earthship Biotecture before, interesting stuff. If you're interested in alternative buildings you should check out some of the cool things people are doing with cob. I've lost my favorite links but a google search brings up some cool stuff. Building with mud, that's something that's possible on a Dude's budget.
If all us Dudes band together to collect glass bottles and cans (caucasians and oat soda's anyone?) we could get enough to build a pretty cool church (is church the preferred nomenclature? How about temple? JMOD). The old tires could probably be procured for free at tire suppliers and land fills. Also, Dudes, we could do a modular style Earthship design witch would allow us to do the whole thing one room at a time! Wave of the future, Dudes! 100% self-sustainable!
That......would......be.......AWESOME. :-p
This is my simple religion.
There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy.
Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
Dalai Lama, 1935 - -now.
http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm (http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm)
Quote from: meekon5 on March 24, 2010, 08:32:48 AM
This is my simple religion.
There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy.
Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
Dalai Lama, 1935 - -now.
http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm (http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm)
Here here!
Not only is that a core part of the Dudeist way, but we can hold a "church" anywhere between two or more compeers. A your own home, a pub/bar, a bowling alley, a park, a movie theatre or even a chat room. It's not the place, it's the state of mind of the faithful (aka, the abiding).
I myself am looking forward to the next congregation of our local church, with Meekon and Klaus. The bar's over here, man.
Meekon, you are one smart sonuva bitch! no offense to your mother in anyway though
Quote from: RevWade on March 24, 2010, 12:25:58 PM
Meekon, you are one smart sonuva bitch! no offense to your mother in anyway though
thanks for that but I'm only quoting a dude that is more spiritual than me (The Dalai Lama).
Yeah, the Dalai Lama knows how to take 'er easy!
Quote from: Rev. Ed C on March 24, 2010, 09:04:19 AM
Quote from: meekon5 on March 24, 2010, 08:32:48 AM
This is my simple religion.
There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy.
Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
Dalai Lama, 1935 - -now.
http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm (http://www.joppeluiten.nl/dalai%20lama.htm)
Here here!
Not only is that a core part of the Dudeist way, but we can hold a "church" anywhere between two or more compeers. A your own home, a pub/bar, a bowling alley, a park, a movie theatre or even a chat room. It's not the place, it's the state of mind of the faithful (aka, the abiding).
I myself am looking forward to the next congregation of our local church, with Meekon and Klaus. The bar's over here, man.
Without wanting to sound evangelical, so here goes, I'm a brother Shamus!
pass the flannel I've broken out in a sweat ;D
Quote from: Rev. Ed C on March 24, 2010, 09:04:19 AM
Here here!
Not only is that a core part of the Dudeist way, but we can hold a "church" anywhere between two or more compeers. A your own home, a pub/bar, a bowling alley, a park, a movie theatre or even a chat room. It's not the place, it's the state of mind of the faithful (aka, the abiding).
I myself am looking forward to the next congregation of our local church, with Meekon and Klaus. The bar's over here, man.
Well Dudes, once I get my own bungalow, I'll pretty much be considering it a Dudeist Church of sorts. No real schedule, I'll probably just be hanging out, but all you Dudes are welcome to join me. Hopefully I can get my bad back into the Colorado area if you know what I mean ;)
piratedude, Rev. Wade, that is an excellent idea about building a church/temple or what -have-you, and certainly something that many of us must have entertained. I had a similar idea to raise funds to build a Dudeist temple in Canada. I do understand that there are good reasons supporting both sides of the discussion.
The British dudes are quite right in their assertion that a bricks-and-mortar location is unnecessary. I like the idea that a Dudeist conclave is a movable feast. It cuts down on the overhead, eliminates any maintenance issues, all the real estate costs and such, and appeals to the lazy man in me. There are no real Dudeist congregations to my knowledge, so, whom would it serve?
On the other hand, Having some real real estate behind your church is a respectable short cut to legitimacy in the eyes of the square community. A visible presence in the community, even if it is only one in a nation, will help to attract a congregation, if that's your goal. My vision is something like a Dude's drop-in center. A Dudeist priest would abide there, full time. He could minister to the needs of the congregation, whatever they may be. Perhaps a safe haven to partake of the sacramental herb, or what-have-you, or just good conversation. He could sell Dudeist merch and collect donations to help fund the place. Rent it out for weddings and bar-mitzvahs, decorate it on the holy days, and just fucking abide in style, man. I'd bet that it would be a real chick magnet too, for real laid back hippie chicks who dig the Dude's style. I see that bowling alley down the center aisle, and The Dude at the far end of the lane, and I dig it the most.
Pipe dream or practical, I know not. I know what I like. If you build it I will come.
i totally realise what some of you dudes are saying about not needing a place of worship etc....etc.. but A/ it would be cool for us all to have somewhere to chill out together and have the chance to meet up with brothers we have not met as there would always be an open door. and B/ in the uk it would help to legitimise our faith as i believe you need to have a permanent place of worship to be recognised.
whether you like the idea or not well thats like your opinion dude, take it easy brothers
Well, here in the UK, building a Dudeist church or whathaveyou is going to suffer from abuse and vandalism. What we need to relax isn't to have to put up with people taking the piss.
If anything, we need to build some sort of club, like a lodge to meet up in. Make it a real place to relax.
Calling it a church or temple or anything similar will just make it seem like some religious parody to non-dudes, which only draws in the ASBO arseholes. The thing is to keep any such place how we'd really like it to be, have it put down as a church officially, and hold regular meetings where we can discuss our business like a any other group of faithful. I mean, any modern church has a church hall built in anyways, usually with a serving hatch from the kitchen for coffee morning, or in the case of this catholic church I was in for a wedding last year it had a bar!
I think we need to define the meaning of church anyway. I mean, we're called a church as a whole, but surely we want our sacred building to be called something else, like an Alley, or a Lane, or a Bar, or a Club, or Lodge, or somesuch. Afterall, we're not supposed to just be a parody of one particular religion, we're a new set of ideals founded on a culmination of respectable philosophies. We want a unique indentity, custom designed to fit with our ethos.
When I realize my dream of having a very Dudely piece of land here , we can totally build a Dudeist church on it. Cob and rammed earth houses are big out here. I'd love a rammed earth house. Warm in winter, cool in summer...woodstove..ahhhh
I picture the "church" as more of a rammed earth hut where one can go and smudge, meditate, or do as one pleases to connect with our Dudeness....maybe get a bathtub and a cd player in there...
In humour, however, i can picture the stained glass windows..one of Donnie, Dude and Walter at the bar....one of the Dude in his robe,...one of Dude in his Maude-dream dance gear...lol
I like the idea of having at least one, but I don't think its necessary. I think we can make due meeting at local bowling joints, bars, or what have you.
I'm not sure if I'd want one on my property, its like, you know, a private residence. And I'd like to keep it that way. An official church needs to have an open door policy.
Why not a bowling alley? A bona fide alley, we could pitch in and and buy one, run it as a non profit, ya' know give to charity like. But have like a temple on the side, maybe? It would be more like a Dude Meca, a museum, a bowling alley church thingy.
Or keep it closed like, like a Masonic Lodge, but that seems undude.
I don't know just tossing it out there.
The way I figure it...if there's an ordained Dudeist priest in attendance...all bowling alleys are Dudeist Churches.
Holy Rollers?? ;D
Quote from: revgms on July 18, 2010, 09:51:22 PM
Why not a bowling alley? A bona fide alley, we could pitch in and and buy one, run it as a non profit, ya' know give to charity like. But have like a temple on the side, maybe? It would be more like a Dude Meca, a museum, a bowling alley church thingy.
Or keep it closed like, like a Masonic Lodge, but that seems undude.
I don't know just tossing it out there.
Or charge the none Dudeists just to cover the upkeep.
i did see one on a property auction site in scotland and it still had the lanes and everything
Quote from: piratedude on September 01, 2010, 05:05:24 AM
i did see one on a property auction site in scotland and it still had the lanes and everything
We could have had a whip round!
How long do you figure before one of us Dudes sets up a church. And what would a Dudeist "church" look like, what would we call it?
Quote from: revgms on September 02, 2010, 01:30:19 PM
How long do you figure before one of us Dudes sets up a church. And what would a Dudeist "church" look like, what would we call it?
A Bowling Alley.
Just my opinion man! 8^)
Ok, the point I am trying to make is Lebowskism and Dudeism are all about takin' er easy, Bowling, and not over complicating shit...and Bowling.
I mean, does the world really need another fuckin' church? But dude, there are dude like bowling alleys all over the place. I ask you dude, what would make a better Dudeist Church than a bowling alley?
I would tend to agree with ya'. I am just asking the questions. But yeah I always come back to a Bowling Alley also. There is one right around the corner from my new house, bet i could convince them to let me hold Dudely services there. Which begs the question, what would that be like? Dudeist Dharma talks(not preachy, just sharing Dudely ideas) followed by Caucasions and bowling?
just thinking aloud here
Quote from: revgms on September 02, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
I would tend to agree with ya'. I am just asking the questions. But yeah I always come back to a Bowling Alley also. There is one right around the corner from my new house, bet i could convince them to let me hold Dudely services there. Which begs the question, what would that be like? Dudeist Dharma talks(not preachy, just sharing Dudely ideas) followed by Caucasions and bowling?
just thinking aloud here
Like Dude! You gotta read the Dudeism.com web site and the Dudespaper. All kinds of Dudely Dharma to be had! You can always start with The Dude De Ching http://dudeism.com/tao/ !
The dudes here did an achiever's like job putting it together!
And let us not forget The Tao of The Dude!
http://dudeism.com/taoofthedude.html
You can even contribute and help get er done.
Truely wise suggestions, thanx mang
Just trying to bring this new shit to light! 8^)
Churches mean buildings, buildings mean expenses, money, structure, an organization, politics, power struggles, rules and all the shit that comes with it.
Dudeism, on the other hand, is a thing of the heart, the soul and life. The moment you begin to build structure and an organization around it the focus of attention is the growth, propagation of the organization and stability of the structure. All of which is why today's churches are cesspools of greed and mind fucking.
About the only buildings a dude needs is a local bowling alley to roll at and his humble pad to have some fucking privacy to help his lady friend conceive. The only religious elements a dudes needs to tie his pad together is a micturated free rug.
I can hear it coming from the pulpit...........
WE WANTS THE MONEY, LEBOWSKI, OR VE FUCKS YOU UP!
No dudes, I humble submit that a dudeism church would be a fucking disaster. We are ourselves the church.
If you want to meet others who practice dudeism, check out meetup.com
That's just like my opinion, man.
Quote from: digitalbuddha on September 02, 2010, 11:01:46 PM
Churches mean buildings, buildings mean expenses, money, structure, an organization, politics, power struggles, rules and all the shit that comes with it. ...
Oh fuck organisation, I definitely didn't sign up for that one.
I am thinking "church" may illicit the wrong idea, think retreats. I heard one idea of a place with just a bunch of hammocks and cool tunes playing, a Dude comfort station.
DB and Meekon are absolutely right, but the Dude is on a team, and does investigate, and does do what he can to save "the girl". Leagues have structure, the dude doesn't avoid it, the Dude just doesn't get lost in it.
I am not sure if or how this could be done, but I think it is an idea worth investigating. Let your self just contemplate this for a moment, if any one could have organisation with out structure, or structure with out organisation, it would be Dudeists.
Things like the Tricycle debate and the Da Stranger episode are going to increase, how do Dudes respond to these?
i'm currently working with a programmer to set up a dudeist directory so that people can meet up and find people who live around them. next step will be to set up some sort of a suggestion on how to get meetups going and maybe regular duder shabbos weekly hang outs - could be bowling, or just imbibing or maybe even the occasional off the cuff sermon. provisionally i'd like to call these "dudenominations" - sort of like local parishes that can be run informally but will be linked to the church.
what do you think of the whole duder shabbos/dudenomination idea? any ideas on how to run them? or what people might do at the meetups?
i guess each dudenomination could have its own facebook page, but i might do it with buddypress (a do it yourself social network powered by wordpress) so that the fascists don't have control of all our info.
i just think that it would be cool for us to have a structure of sorts where we are "officialy" a minister of , that way in the uk we could be officialy recognised as ministers of a religion, shit man even a garage with a bar in it would be cool if we could have it registered as a place of worship
Quote from: forumdude on September 04, 2010, 05:46:37 AM
i'm currently working with a programmer to set up a dudeist directory so that people can meet up and find people who live around them. next step will be to set up some sort of a suggestion on how to get meetups going and maybe regular duder shabbos weekly hang outs - could be bowling, or just imbibing or maybe even the occasional off the cuff sermon. provisionally i'd like to call these "dudenominations" - sort of like local parishes that can be run informally but will be linked to the church.
what do you think of the whole duder shabbos/dudenomination idea? any ideas on how to run them? or what people might do at the meetups?
i guess each dudenomination could have its own facebook page, but i might do it with buddypress (a do it yourself social network powered by wordpress) so that the fascists don't have control of all our info.
Way to go Forumdude!
Quote from: Dude1967 on September 17, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: forumdude on September 04, 2010, 05:46:37 AM
i'm currently working with a programmer to set up a dudeist directory so that people can meet up and find people who live around them. next step will be to set up some sort of a suggestion on how to get meetups going and maybe regular duder shabbos weekly hang outs - could be bowling, or just imbibing or maybe even the occasional off the cuff sermon. provisionally i'd like to call these "dudenominations" - sort of like local parishes that can be run informally but will be linked to the church.
what do you think of the whole duder shabbos/dudenomination idea? any ideas on how to run them? or what people might do at the meetups?
i guess each dudenomination could have its own facebook page, but i might do it with buddypress (a do it yourself social network powered by wordpress) so that the fascists don't have control of all our info.
Way to go Forumdude!
Fuckin' eh, a dude like achievement by the forumdude, mang.
I do have a Dudeist Temple.
Here are a few pics of my temple.
Here is one wing of the temple.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/Strawberry_2Large-1.jpg)
Here is the view from the temple entrance.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/TheapproachStrawberry.jpg)
And finally a shot of my pew, in the temple.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/SmokinPerch.jpg)
Have a great day, and do yourself a favor, and find yourself a Dudeist Temple. You can share mine if you want to.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Serene, Dude, serene - thanks for posting.
DUDE! homebrews got it
the universe is the temple, man!
Quote from: Homebrew on February 10, 2011, 11:39:15 PM
I do have a Dudeist Temple.
Here are a few pics of my temple.
Here is one wing of the temple.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/Strawberry_2Large-1.jpg)
Here is the view from the temple entrance.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/TheapproachStrawberry.jpg)
And finally a shot of my pew, in the temple.
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu35/Homebrew_photo/SmokinPerch.jpg)
Have a great day, and do yourself a favor, and find yourself a Dudeist Temple. You can share mine if you want to.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Where is that dude? 8)
We do not need a special church. Some whale songs, candles and a tub is good enough for me man.
The dalai lama rocks!
Om mani Padme hum the dude abides............
I have a Facebook page for my "church" that's about as structured as i want to get. It's not the building it's the idea.
Anyone ever google map The Dudes address? 609 Venezia Ave. Venice, CA 90291 (it's on the check at the beginning of the movie). I'm supprised there isn't some kind of shrine there. Unless I don't know about it. It's like Mecca man!
Quote from: Rev. Spliff on March 25, 2011, 06:31:57 AM
I have a Facebook page for my "church" that's about as structured as i want to get. It's not the building it's the idea.
That sounds too organised for me.
though I will admit to being a long time bearer of five Discordian "Pope Cards" (well actually mine are portable Erisian temples).
Ref:
http://cyberneticexchange.blogspot.com/2007/07/note-for-some-reason-blogger-is-not.html
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Pope_cards
http://singlenesia.com/agitprop/popecard/
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/popecard.html
Quote from: LazyDude on March 25, 2011, 09:13:10 AM
Anyone ever google map The Dudes address? 609 Venezia Ave. Venice, CA 90291 (it's on the check at the beginning of the movie). I'm supprised there isn't some kind of shrine there. Unless I don't know about it. It's like Mecca man!
We're back to shrines and holy lands again which I personally think are counter productive.
I'm not against Dudes finding a quiet place for themselves but lets not start dedicating bloody shrines (or shrines with blood, now there's an idea).
IMHO of course. ;D
I thought that is why they made Bowling Alleys for? ::)
Quote from: Rev. Ed C on April 05, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
Well, here in the UK, building a Dudeist church or whathaveyou is going to suffer from abuse and vandalism. What we need to relax isn't to have to put up with people taking the piss.
If anything, we need to build some sort of club, like a lodge to meet up in. Make it a real place to relax.
Calling it a church or temple or anything similar will just make it seem like some religious parody to non-dudes, which only draws in the ASBO arseholes. The thing is to keep any such place how we'd really like it to be, have it put down as a church officially, and hold regular meetings where we can discuss our business like a any other group of faithful. I mean, any modern church has a church hall built in anyways, usually with a serving hatch from the kitchen for coffee morning, or in the case of this catholic church I was in for a wedding last year it had a bar!
I think we need to define the meaning of church anyway. I mean, we're called a church as a whole, but surely we want our sacred building to be called something else, like an Alley, or a Lane, or a Bar, or a Club, or Lodge, or somesuch. Afterall, we're not supposed to just be a parody of one particular religion, we're a new set of ideals founded on a culmination of respectable philosophies. We want a unique indentity, custom designed to fit with our ethos.
That is entirely true dude! So yeah, what WOULD we want our sacred building to be called?
Quote from: Rev. Ed C on April 05, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
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I think we need to define the meaning of church anyway. I mean, we're called a church as a whole, but surely we want our sacred building to be called something else, like an Alley, or a Lane, or a Bar, or a Club, or Lodge, or somesuch. Afterall, we're not supposed to just be a parody of one particular religion, we're a new set of ideals founded on a culmination of respectable philosophies. We want a unique indentity, custom designed to fit with our ethos.
See I like the idea of League. Then we could have Local Leagues (eg The Local Portsmouth Dudeist League), Area Leagues (eg The UK South Coast Area Dudeist League), National Leagues (eg The UK National Dudeist League), International Leagues (The EU International Dudeist League), and of course the World Dudeist League.
Quote from: ZOLTAN on August 03, 2011, 05:25:09 AM
That is entirely true dude! So yeah, what WOULD we want our sacred building to be called?
Yeah, I believe that is the question being asked. You have any ideas dude?
Welcome to our Beach Party dude.
Smoke em if you got em. 8)
I like the sound of leagues.
I Don't care what its called. League sounds dandy. We don't need any new construction projects though. I wouldn't mind going to the league office after work for a nice White Russian with my fellow dudes. It's fair to say that that is the same thing as going to any local bar. But in a league building we could discuss different events and ideas that could only come to fruition with the help of many Dudley hands.
to redo a bowling alley into a dudeist"church" is like my dream of the ultimate abiding ,just my dream mang.I am happy to be in the cyber ally of dudeism .
Quote from: TeRightReverendSwami on August 21, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
to redo a bowling alley into a dudeist"church" is like my dream of the ultimate abiding ,just my dream mang.I am happy to be in the cyber ally of dudeism .
Nice dream you got there dude.
Welcome to our lanes dude...the bar is over there. 8)
Quote from: TeRightReverendSwami on August 21, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
to redo a bowling alley into a dudeist"church" is like my dream of the ultimate abiding ,just my dream mang.I am happy to be in the cyber ally of dudeism .
If you will it, dude, it is no dream!
The ocean is my church, it never needs
Oh Dudes!
I think I may be like becoming a missionary or something.
For the last month and with no reference to this thread, I have been organising a bowling league at work.
The Great Western Reading Depot Bowling League will have its inaugaral game at Wokingham on 21st Sep 2011,1400hrs.
I think I will keep the attire low key at first.Break into their uptight thinking gently.
Abidingly.Zen Dog