hi fellow dudes and duderinas
I was wondering, if a dudeist priest's "work" should include sermons. I know, we preach non-preachiness, but you can't spread your opinion without blathering about it, and fellow dudes who lost their train of thought or their limberness of mind, who don't manage to abide, might like to hear some good stuff to feel confortable again.
What is your opinion on the issue?
greetings from far Switzerland with its fucking watches.
Hey man I think it's a tad more subtle than that...we don't need to sermonise dude...our vocabulary gives us all we need .....calling someone dude makes them think they are cool....telling someone to go bowling...or mark it 8 or shut the fuck up will definitely give them a clue as to our happiness state. 8) Their happiness state is entirely up to them! 8)
Now...if they say to one of us "what the fuck are you on about?" Quote the good Film my man"
Oh God I'm rambling...Caucasion somebody please....
duderetto ;
Please - just repeat other peoples words if they catch your fancy. Thats what our #1 dude did for most of the movie. Am I wrong?
and lets not forget -
blathering - ok
preaching - uh, like what were we talking about?
Remember, The Dude's answer for everything is "Take it easy."
So, "far out", "take it easy", and "another Kaukasian, Gary" are the mantra.
See I just don't like the idea of Sermonising. I like to reel them in with little hints and directions rather than beat them over the head (metaphorically).
I was wondering the same thing for abit. Then I remember going to church and feeling like shit when I left because of a sermon. What if instead of sermons where one person preaches, if a bunch wanted to get together they could have something like a meditation circle or something. Then partake of the sacramental beverage when it's over. Of course if folks are looking up to you to show them the way of the dude just point the finger and let them walk the path. Fuck I'm rambling. Well fuck it, that's just like my opinion.
Right on dudeski. Audience participation, collective wisdom, cool.
todays semron.
all rise: in dude we pray, it is not the china mans fault, but the rug did pull the room together. just mark it a fuckin 8, grab 2 oat beers and down a caucasian. dude
That's cool, that's cool. I dig your style, Caesar Dude, you've got that subtle thing going on.
A sermon, man? Really? Just remind them that The Dude abides, man. 8)
Sermons, I'd have to say no. But, you know, small group talks/advice sessions (remindin' people to take 'er easy for all us sinners out there), you know, that's cool, man.
so like, are there any sermons or like, dudeist services? i wanna be the best dudeist priest i can... ;D
instead of a sermon, I'd suggest having answers for the questions people ask you about Dudeism
There is nothing wrong with finding creative ways to spread the word of the dude, but maybe calling a dudeist speech a sermon wouldn't be accurate.
A Strangermon, now that is what I call dudely dudes. Simple, straightforward, something that the Stranger would say.
I say go for it. Write-up a strangermon and spread the word of the dude in the style of the Stranger. "I like your style dude"
To be honest I've never been to Church so I don't have first hand knowledge of what a sermon is like. But i believe that a typical sermon takes excerpts from the holy book and blathers on about the morals of that particular excerpt and how they apply to everyday life. Ok so far?
If that's the case I'm not sure that Dudeist sermonizing will work out that well. I mean, as awesome as The Big Lebowski is, it doesn't really have the same volume of material that the Bible has. And it seems like a lot of work to keep blathering on about how important it is to keep er easy. I prefer to lead by example myself.
But, it's a doable idea. I think we'd have to come up with a whole new way of doing it though, y'know. We'd need a specifically dudeist style of sermon if it were to work at all.
Sermonising is too like evangelism for me.
What next Dudeists standing on street corners with "Repent, Donny is Dead" on sandwich boards.
Strange bearded Dudeists with copies of the DVD standing in shoping Malls yelling the word of the Dude at unlistening passers by.
I still stand with this point of view from the Dudespaper (http://dudespaper.com/evangelical-dudeism.html/) a while back:
Quote from: meekon5 on September 16th, 2009 5:49 am
I?m sorry but surely evangelism is diametrically apposed to the way of the Dude? Seems like too much uptight thinking for me.
As a cleverer man than me once said.
"A Dude fills his house with oat soda and burgers from In-N-Out. He sits out front with the door open. If a reactionary, or a nihilist should walk past and not notice, what the fuck, he doesn't bother them. But should a stranger pass and notice, and approach the Dude, he invites him in for a beverage."
That for me is the way of the Dude, that is how Dudeism should be transmitted. Not shouted from roof tops and evangelised. Too much unchecked aggression.
Quote from: meekon5 on June 01, 2010, 09:42:22 AM
Sermonising is too like evangelism for me.
What next Dudeists standing on street corners with "Repent, Donny is Dead" on sandwich boards.
Strange bearded Dudeists with copies of the DVD standing in shoping Malls yelling the word of the Dude at unlistening passers by.
I still stand with this point of view from the Dudespaper (http://dudespaper.com/evangelical-dudeism.html/) a while back:
Quote from: meekon5 on September 16th, 2009 5:49 am
I?m sorry but surely evangelism is diametrically apposed to the way of the Dude? Seems like too much uptight thinking for me.
As a cleverer man than me once said.
"A Dude fills his house with oat soda and burgers from In-N-Out. He sits out front with the door open. If a reactionary, or a nihilist should walk past and not notice, what the fuck, he doesn't bother them. But should a stranger pass and notice, and approach the Dude, he invites him in for a beverage."
That for me is the way of the Dude, that is how Dudeism should be transmitted. Not shouted from roof tops and evangelised. Too much unchecked aggression.
I think evangelizing takes too much work for one, but I think also implies that you actually care what other people think. And the Dude most certainly does not give two shits what anyone else thinks. He's gonna roll with people he likes, and everyone else can piss off, they are not important. He doesn't need others to see the world as he sees it. If they do, great, if not, fuck it.
Quote from: Nekonix on June 03, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
....And the Dude most certainly does not give two shits what anyone else thinks. He's gonna roll with people he likes, and everyone else can piss off, they are not important. He doesn't need others to see the world as he sees it. If they do, great, if not, fuck it.
Exactly, too much work. totally agree. If they can't see it too bad.
In fact there was a wonderful Buddhist come back to the other religions, it's OK (your point of view on religion) what ever you want, I'm sure you'll get it right in some other lifetime.
Absolutely man...like the Muslims Hadith No.20 "Among the words people obtained from the First Prophecy are : If you feel no shame, then do as you wish."
Gotta love that get out clause for whatever you want.....so many contradictions!!!
In peace and love and absolute non religious conviction....LOL
PEACE dudes! ;D
Quote from: Nekonix on June 03, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
I think evangelizing takes too much work for one, but I think also implies that you actually care what other people think. And the Dude most certainly does not give two shits what anyone else thinks. He's gonna roll with people he likes, and everyone else can piss off, they are not important. He doesn't need others to see the world as he sees it. If they do, great, if not, fuck it.
I think most of us would agree that Dudeism is a religion that doesn't really lend itself well to evangelism. But the fact that you posted at all shows that in some sense you do care about what other people think. Or at the very least you're interested in an exchange of ideas that necessitates the stating of ideas. If there's any room for sermonizing at all it in Dudeism it would be as a vessel for the exchange of ideas, similar to the function the Dudespaper and sometimes this forum serve. I'm just saying that we have carte blanche here why not reinvent the "sermon" (for lack of a better word) as we see fit. If you will it it is no dream, Dude.
I mean, a sermon can be a moving, poetic thing and doesn't have to be all fire and brimstone and condemnation. Jon Donne comes to mind, I'm sure there are others.
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee"
Quote from: meekon5 on June 03, 2010, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: Nekonix on June 03, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
In fact there was a wonderful Buddhist come back to the other religions, it's OK (your point of view on religion) what ever you want, I'm sure you'll get it right in some other lifetime.
Love that one, gotta start using it, sometimes they suck me in and I start getting all reactionary, then I just chill an' say fuck it.
I donno, maybe just think if it is the right action for it's time and place, sermonize if that is the Dude thing to do at that moment, don't if it would be undudely. What's undudely? Too many ins an' outs to define that, no matter how strict a drug regieme you are on.
Later Dudes
This meditation.
Is that like, going bowling with out actualy bowling?
You know, like just sitting there.
And I stopped doing sermons when I stopped going to the pub.
But here's one anyway;
Like attracts like.
Be who you are,
calm and clear and bright,
asking yourself every minute
is this what I really want to do,
doing it only when you answer yes.
This turns away those who have
nothing to learn from who you are
and attracts those who do,
and from whom you have to learn as well.