Watched the Republican Debate

[BikerDude]

I've actually been taking some solace in the strange phenomenon of The Trump.
In a way I believe that the democratic process is best served when there is someone like him to suck all the batshit crazy swine away from the pure politicians who cynically pander to scum to pad the numbers...

The danger is that there could be enough batshit crazy swine out there to actually get that egotistical asshat elected.

Nah. No danger.
The right plays this game of pandering to the full on loons and keeping the "real" constituency on board at the same time. It's a tough marriage.
The level of lunacy from Trump looks to me like he got in to play spoiler in the primaries.
To piss in the pool and make the rest of the candidates follow him off into crazy land. At least a little bit.
So when it comes to the general election they have to answer for some stuff.
Hey what comes around goes around. If they want to play that game then they open the door.

Mainly remember Trump is a successful New York guy. Having Hillary in the white house is a huge wind fall for him. He's been a supporter of hers for years. Bill and Hillary were at his wedding. And Bill, that close to Trump.
You don't think that they put their scheming little heads together on a few things?
The politics that he is enunciating now does not resemble all of his positions over the years.
He's playing a game of turning up the crazy. If he gets the nod then he'll take a fall in the first or second round.
He'll go even farther off the deep end to throw it.
Guaranteed. He's a sheep in wolfs clothing.
It's a false flag campaign. But then in a way so is the whole right side of politics.
You can't serve the interests of the one percent with one percent of the vote. So they play this bullshit.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422156/clinton-and-trump-perfect-together-john-fund
http://blackbag.gawker.com/is-donald-trump-running-a-false-flag-campaign-to-help-h-1723925057

Now comes a Washington Post report that Trump jumped into the presidential race after a private phone call with Bill Clinton that was made just three weeks before his announcement. Clinton encouraged him to play a bigger role in the Republican party. And while Clinton didn?t specifically urge Trump to run, he was obviously feeding his giant ego. ?Clinton sounded curious about Trump?s moves towards a presidential bid and told Trump that he was striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right,? the Post reports, noting its information came from both Trump allies and a Clinton aide.

[Trump?s] ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP?s base.

Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It?s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump?s pronouncements?the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric?sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant?s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.

The fact that it works shows that it's not a caricature. A significant portion of the "base" really are racist ignorant assholes. Surprise surprise. And almost enough to put one of themselves in the White House. That's the truly scary part.


I just wish that none of the 2 party candidates could win.
If I had to pick I'd take Bernie.
But he's more or less the "Anti Trump".
Other side of the coin.

[Reverend Al]

Your reasoning sounds valid, and I think I'd be foolish to disagree.  I have so little interest in politics that I haven't kept up with the freak show, so you're clearly more informed.  I don't like Trump, but I know he's not an idiot and this does sound like something he'd do--ratchet up the crazy to find out who can and can't get out of their self-imposed straitjackets.

[jgiffin]

Yep, it's the same song in a different chord.

The republicans and democrats play off one another to the detriment of the populace...but they're in it together.

The establishment republicans and conservative republicans play off one another to the detriment of their constituents...but they're in it together. Prediction: the next speaker of the house will look and talk and act a fuck-ton-of-a-lot like John Behner.

It's more Orwellian than the NSA spying on Eric Blair at a midnight showing of 1984.

[BikerDude]

Yep, it's the same song in a different chord.

The republicans and democrats play off one another to the detriment of the populace...but they're in it together.

The establishment republicans and conservative republicans play off one another to the detriment of their constituents...but they're in it together. Prediction: the next speaker of the house will look and talk and act a fuck-ton-of-a-lot like John Behner.

It's more Orwellian than the NSA spying on Eric Blair at a midnight showing of 1984.

Yes. In dark moments it's does take on an apocalyptic tone.
One has to wonder just what sort of shit tide is being held back behind the dam of lies.
And perhaps there is a sort of wisdom in feeding the beasts.

[jgiffin]

Hmmmm, I guess it comes down to whether you trust the "beasts" or the "handlers."

[BikerDude]

Hmmmm, I guess it comes down to whether you trust the "beasts" or the "handlers."

I don't like either.
I would prefer humans who handle the beasts for the benefit of the other humans rather than pandering to them for votes irregardless of how vile the beasts might be.