Does the female form make you uncomfortable, Mr. Lebowski?

greatspiritmonk · October 25, 2009, 03:25:55 AM

Well, it could be. Beauty is surely in the eyes of the beholder and the concept of beauty is different as times passes by, but I believe it is also inside the person. In Africa almost no one thinks that a skinny girl is beautiful, they see too much of them but because of starvation. So the opposite becomes an image of health and wealth, if you are more or less over sized it means that you can afford to buy food. The same happened in Italy until sixties or seventies when there was hunger especially in the country.
It is also true that almost everyone agrees on the beauty of Romans or Greeks sculptures. 300 gives a good idea, even if it's a fantasy movie and all worked with Photoshop.

My opinion is that whatever your body type if it is worked out a little is beautiful. Ok, that's because in a previous life, and a lot of beers ago I was a fucking amateur bodybuilder.

Those girls you talk about are the victims of fashion, marketing campaigns and so on. But who benefits? And who let them alone to judge about it? The society just don't care. But the money they'll spend is important.

Rev. Wendy is certainly right, she usually is, my point, badly expressed, is that instead of achieving the desired body with surgery and starvation they should train and have a toned, healthy body. But when I trained I remember hearing girls that they wouldn't train legs or calf because this way their legs would become bigger. So maybe there is no easy solution.

Actually if you have few laws to follow life is easier and life less complicated, or simpler. As regards women's rights it depends from the values you are grown up with. In India they are not monotheistic yet it is usual that when the mother in law gets angry with the daughter in law or she is no more considered a good wife she throws gasoline at her and burn her to death. Women who kills women.

Dude, the world is a mess.

meekon5 · October 25, 2009, 03:53:32 PM

Personally I blame the Victorians.

Though they were a reaction to the license of the previous period, they have stained society with a lot of values that are really quite harmfull, not just capitalism, sexual represion, and represion of the female in society (surprising considering Victoria was such a strong female role model).

Porn is only exciting because it is restricted, therefore a thrill at doing something you should not be doing.

As for female body image I personally think size zero should be made illegal, and do believe there is not a single picture now (published on magazine front covers) that does not have some sort of photoshop work on it.

It's almost funny the way magazines are now reporting Posh may have some sort of problem, I (like most of you) realised that years ago. She is far to thin to be healthy, like the majority of female stars in the mass media at the moment.

In fact there was a magazine front cover where the woman's image had been so changed her hips were smaller than her head.

greatspiritmonk · October 26, 2009, 01:04:29 PM

You're right, and size zero should be really illegal. But there are some who benefits, not last medicine and pharmacy world. Just like from depression. You know, having someone to come for therapy for some years is good for the wallet.

meekon5 · October 26, 2009, 01:12:26 PM

Much like it doesn't pay to find a cure for the common cold! No money in eradicating something that earns millions (billions) in symptom suppresents that don't actually kill the germs.

greatspiritmonk · October 27, 2009, 02:15:12 AM

Actually they don't find a cure for cold because being a mutating virus every year is different and you usually never catch two times the same one. This is what they say.
But it's definitely true for swine flu. It doesn't kill, it's less dangerous, it's only more "virulent". They say that vaccine has been thoroughly tested but I'd like to see the long term effects of the vaccine. Since it doesn't kill I won't do it. Can you imagine how much money they'll earn? Remember sars, avian flu and so on? They killed almost no one, on a world scale obviously, but gave enormous earnings. These days that's the world we live on. Obviously I'm a cleft asshole in this respect because usually I don't take pills unless I'm really suffering.

Anyhow, to go back to the thread, I like the female form in every respect, when it expresses the inner beauty of the female. That is if you are beautiful inside it appears outside. Or that's my opinion.

meekon5 · October 27, 2009, 06:18:31 AM

Quote from: greatspiritmonk on October 27, 2009, 02:15:12 AM
...Anyhow, to go back to the thread, I like the female form in every respect, when it expresses the inner beauty of the female. That is if you are beautiful inside it appears outside. Or that's my opinion.

I don't particularly have any preconception of a "Perfect" woman. In fact most of the time I treat them as just other people. I have to admit that the Southern Irish accent is my version of kryptonite, it reduces me to a blathering jelly (or reduces me more).

BikerDude · October 27, 2009, 05:53:50 PM

You know I always found the Klingon chicks on Star Trek TNG hot.
Super nice racks.

As far as the fertility goddess shape goes all I can say is I'd hit it.
Of course I'd wait till last call.

Elbowski · October 28, 2009, 12:11:50 AM

How very dudely of you Bikerdude, why pay for all those drinks like a sap, just wait 'til she's loaded for b'ar, in the parlance of our times.

meekon5 · October 29, 2009, 12:10:14 PM

I just found this (through Stumbleupon, should be working but we have ground to a complete halt in the office this PM) at http://annoy.com/

Makes the point nicely.

Matt the Walrus · October 29, 2009, 10:17:17 PM

Quote from: meekon5 on October 29, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
I just found this (through Stumbleupon, should be working but we have ground to a complete halt in the office this PM) at http://annoy.com/

Makes the point nicely.

Yeah, concentration camps = concentrated hotness. Just kidding. She looks like what I imagine aliens would look like.

not_exactly_a_lightweight · October 30, 2009, 12:23:26 AM

Walter, whats your point?

greatspiritmonk · October 30, 2009, 01:43:41 AM

Oh shit. These people are completely gone crazy.

meekon5 · October 30, 2009, 08:23:01 AM

Quote from: not_exactly_a_lightweight on October 30, 2009, 12:23:26 AM
Walter, whats your point?

Like a child wondering in half way through the movie.

Quote from: flashback on May 14, 2009, 04:47:13 AM
from The New Scientist:

"With its outsize bulbous breasts and hugely exaggerated genitalia, (You mean, Vagina?) a statuette of a woman has pushed back the history of female figurative art by 5000 years, to at least 35,000 years ago."

Is that what this is a picture of?

Thats what we're talking the fuck about Donny.

Size zero in comparison to ample wimin.

Sorry if this seems like unchecked aggression, it's not meant as such.

BikerDude · October 30, 2009, 09:47:32 AM

Quote from: Elbowski on October 28, 2009, 12:11:50 AM
How very dudely of you Bikerdude, why pay for all those drinks like a sap, just wait 'til she's loaded for b'ar, in the parlance of our times.

Oh yeah man. You can't always find a cash machine when you need one.

greatspiritmonk · October 31, 2009, 02:04:38 AM

The sad thing is that a girl like that demonstrates, in the wrong way, the power of the mind over the body. She's able to overcome her survival instinct and starve. Imagine what she could achieve if going in the right direction. It's really a pity. And all those girls who follow that road. But it's also a consequence of living in the rich part of the world. As I said before no one would do that for choice where there is real hunger.