Where does Walter fit in?

[Laughing Dude]

The other half of the Dudeist yin-yang, Walter, has been confusing me with his place in Dudeism. Got some questions fer ya:

-Is it "right" to draw a line in the sand, or say "fuck it" as the Dude would have us?

-Walter was right about the toe and the girl kidnapping himself. In these moments I noticed the Dude was acting very undude. What's your take on this?

-Another thing dudes, like, sure Walter fucks up man. He fucks up alot.
But was he right in keeping his money from the Nihilists? The Dude was willing to end it cheap, but Walter wanted to stand and fight. What is the Dudeist take on this? Was he wrong? Even better question, was his desire to fight responsible for Donny's death?

Just where does he fit in to all of this? Too many strands in old duder's head, not enough caucasians.

[Dude1967]

The other half of the Dudeist yin-yang, Walter, has been confusing me with his place in Dudeism. Got some questions fer ya:

-Is it "right" to draw a line in the sand, or say "fuck it" as the Dude would have us?

-Walter was right about the toe and the girl kidnapping himself. In these moments I noticed the Dude was acting very undude. What's your take on this?

-Another thing dudes, like, sure Walter fucks up man. He fucks up alot.
But was he right in keeping his money from the Nihilists? The Dude was willing to end it cheap, but Walter wanted to stand and fight. What is the Dudeist take on this? Was he wrong? Even better question, was his desire to fight responsible for Donny's death?

Just where does he fit in to all of this? Too many strands in old duder's head, not enough caucasians.

I think that Walter WAS right in standing up to the Nihilists because if they were dealing with REAL Nihilists, instead of a bunch of "fuckin' crybabies" what would have stopped them from killing The Dude, Walter, and Donny?  Absolutely nothing.  And I can't say that his desire to fight had anything to do with Donny's death, because it seems to me that the heart attack started while they were INSIDE the bowling alley.

[Laughing Dude]

That's fucking interesting, that's fucking interesting.

[sufidude]

The Dude and Walter are both archetyptes of the inner truth taught in the film. Just look at the Dudeist symbol-conjoined bowling balls that are each an aspect of the other. Each dude is in his/herself composed of that aspect which gives a shit about the rules, and that aspect which says eh fuck it. They may seem opposed but are actually co-necessary and complementary to each other. But despite my words, only you can decide when to draw a line in the sand or mark it 8.

[BikerDude]

No he's not wrong, he's just an asshole.

[Duderek]

Walter was wrong to stand up to the nihilists there fried died of a heart attack man so uncool total bummer , give the money save ya friend the dude dont care

Book 2 , verse 2 -
Money is the root of all evil. It's also the root of all good stories, so hooray for money.

[sufidude]

Walter was wrong to stand up to the nihilists there fried died of a heart attack man so uncool total bummer , give the money save ya friend the dude dont care

That was actually the only time in the whole film that i disagreed w/Walter.

[Duderek]

He needs to chillax some more

[Big Bodhi]

I would like to prescribe to the Taoist theory of balances, and say this:

Without the Walter, there would be no Dude.  Without the Dude, there would be no Walter.

Without the comparison, one could not measure Dudeness.  I personally think Walter is the opposite of the Sage, what the Tao Te Ching usually refers to as the layman, the fool, or the regular person.  He is rash, impulsive, and angry, yet he still supports and longs to be in the Dude's good graces.  He is a learner, albeit a goddamn moron, and the Dude is willing to accept that.

On a more literal note, if Walter didn't exist, the Dude very well might not have been alive to spread his Dudeness, and perhaps visa versa.

But that's just my opinion, man.

The Dude Abides,
Brother Bodhi

[SmokeytheBuddha]

I would like to prescribe to the Taoist theory of balances, and say this:

Without the Walter, there would be no Dude.  Without the Dude, there would be no Walter.

Without the comparison, one could not measure Dudeness.  I personally think Walter is the opposite of the Sage, what the Tao Te Ching usually refers to as the layman, the fool, or the regular person.  He is rash, impulsive, and angry, yet he still supports and longs to be in the Dude's good graces.  He is a learner, albeit a goddamn moron, and the Dude is willing to accept that.

On a more literal note, if Walter didn't exist, the Dude very well might not have been alive to spread his Dudeness, and perhaps visa versa.

But that's just my opinion, man.

The Dude Abides,
Brother Bodhi

Fuckin' A-men, Dude.

[greatspiritmonk]

Yeah, you said it right.

[Spoonifyourhorny]

Well in my opinion there are varying aspects of being a dude. The Dude and Walter are the extremes of dude. Walter is like almost a paladin dude where he stands for what he believes in and is willing to fight for himself and his friends, the fact that he was right or wrong or simply was talking out his ass only meant he was willing to fight for something he believed in, I think Nam was another reference of this, he often referred to his buddies dying face down in the mud to up-hold freedom (what they believed in) which only strengthens his resolve BUT regardless of he acts he is still in every essence a dude. The Dude is more of a Monk, he was given a task and he merely wished to carry it out, the entire movie he had the best interests of what he thought was a captive girl in mind in each decision that he made, he sought a balanced outcome where everyone got a fair deal.

Now take into consideration, the dude was functioning to the best of his ability considering that his life had been threatened, people where working against him, his car was stolen yet he still tried to make things right.

Also my opinion of Drawing a line, and marking it 8 is that, A: You define your reality, its you that decides the value of your score.
B: You are the master of your destiny

[triviadude]

You can have your cake and eat it too.  Think of it as some sort of dialectical sort of thing.  Dude is the thesis.  Walter is the anti-thesis. 

Still, I must confess to having no idea what the synthesis is.  But as Hegel said, "The owl of Minerva spreads it's wings only with the falling of the dusk."

That's it, Dudeism needs a Third Way.  But I have no idea who will serve as our Buddha. 

[BikerDude]

Friends like these, huh Gary.

[not_exactly_a_lightweight]

You can have your cake and eat it too.  Think of it as some sort of dialectical sort of thing.  Dude is the thesis.  Walter is the anti-thesis. 

Still, I must confess to having no idea what the synthesis is.  But as Hegel said, "The owl of Minerva spreads it's wings only with the falling of the dusk."

That's it, Dudeism needs a Third Way.  But I have no idea who will serve as our Buddha. 

Do you mean Thoedore Herzel?