Is a dudeist an atheist?

[kiksen]

Hello Dudes!
I am a very passionate atheist, because I believe that religions only hinder human advancement. But then I ran into dudeism and its philosophy matches my way of thinking. I therefore signed up even though religion is against every set of principle I have.
I now want to ask you, whether or not you believe that it is possible to call myself as an atheist and a dude.
Thanks 

[Masked Dude]

Yes, because I do, too. I'm more in the camp that I don't see the use for religion. It doesn't do any good, but I'll respect another's right to believe and practice as they see fit.

The reason, in my opinion, we can be dudeists and atheists is that anyone can have a philosophy that helps one to deal with the world and feelings. You don't need a religion or invisible friend to learn how and why you think.

To me the Dudeist philosophy is take 'er easy, man, you get one life so don't fuck it up. A religion would be only the Dude has the one true path and Ollie the Dudely Lama is the one true speaker.

No one, not even Ollie, agrees with the latter. I like Ollie but would have no problem with telling him to take a hike if he ever said that. No one would. That's why we love the guy and why he loves us.

[DigitalBuddha]

Hello Dudes!
I am a very passionate atheist, because I believe that religions only hinder human advancement. But then I ran into dudeism and its philosophy matches my way of thinking. I therefore signed up even though religion is against every set of principle I have.
I now want to ask you, whether or not you believe that it is possible to call myself as an atheist and a dude.
Thanks 

Welcome kiksen dude to our quiet beach community. Grab a lane a roll a few, mang. Good to have you here. Bars just over there, have an oat soda.

[DigitalBuddha]

I now want to ask you, whether or not you believe that it is possible to call myself as an atheist and a dude.

Fucking eh.

[The_Sleevez]

Dudism is called a religion but in my opinion most religions try to explain the universe. Put everything in a neat order with an explanation for everything. Then as long as you follow the rules you get to be part of the machine and feel important. The reality is shit happens because shit happens that's life. Dudism is about finding as much happiness as you can while letting the shit that's out of your control happen and not leave you face down in the mud. I like to think of it as a way of approaching life not a way to explain or control it. That's just me rambling on though.

[cckeiser]

let's rephrase the question.
Can/may a dudeist be an atheist. About the same as asking Cam/may a Doctor be an Atheist.
When it comes to spiritual shit....dudeism doesn't care.
Dudeism remains Agnostic and Apathetic....."We don't know and we don't care."
That is not to say we each cannot hold to belief or other, but for Dudeism it is best to leave such beliefs at the door.
Anything that get people uptight and their pantiesin a twist is not dude.
Just like my opinion dudes.

[DigitalBuddha]

let's rephrase the question.
Can/may a dudeist be an atheist. About the same as asking Cam/may a Doctor be an Atheist.
When it comes to spiritual shit....dudeism doesn't care.
Dudeism remains Agnostic and Apathetic....."We don't know and we don't care."
That is not to say we each cannot hold to belief or other, but for Dudeism it is best to leave such beliefs at the door.
Anything that get people uptight and their pantiesin a twist is not dude.
Just like my opinion dudes.

I'll drink to that.

[meekon5]

To be honest we have a number of flavours of Dudeism here.

I personally count myself a Pagan Dudeist, and see no contradiction in that because I have  always seen myself as a Zen/Taoist Pagan previously and see Dudeism as the logical development of the western Zen/Taoist path making a logical synthesis between them and the western point of view.

In answer to the question, yes you can be a Dudeist atheist, but you don't have to be.

[LotsaBadKarma]

My difficulty lies in organized religion. It tends to be used to achieve 2 main goals; money and control. So I guess I would be called an anti-theist. Fuck the church.
As far as the man in the sky I guess I'm agnostic because I just don't know but I'm in good company because nobody else does, either.
As far as the question of whether or not Jesus walked the earth at one time I suppose it's possible, just like George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. I wasn't there to see any of the 3 so I guess I don't place it outside the realm of possibility but as to whether I could testify under oath as to their existence.....Nope.
I guess certain things are subject to our ability to grant faith to a statement of a particular entity's existence Like any of the 3 figures I mentioned above. People always say that the bible is the word of god handed down directly to us from the lord above. I guess that's why every version that I've ever heard of was written by a king/ruler of some sort. Again, that takes me back to control and money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3utXOYEqK3o
The first 2 minutes of the clip says it all.

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

Simply, Dudeism is atheistic (we have no Dudeist deity), but individual Dudeists need not be atheists or theists.

Basically what everyone else said, just bite sized.

[BikerDude]

I don't think a person's belief or disbelief in God enters into Dudeism.
Except that typically a person believing in God inevitably finds themselves following one of the established religions. Those are tough to reconcile with Dudeism IMO.

However  I think that belief in a personal 'ie' "involved in human" affairs kind of God inevitably leads to very undude outcomes. It inevitably suggest judgement, and of course the judgement takes the form of those who purport to know his will. There is never a shortcoming of those and they are almost universally paraquat.

[claird]

The thing about the Dude is that he can make room for different types of people (Walter, The Stranger, Maud, Marty and his dance cycle).  The Dude is not easily threatened and can therefore transcend socio-economicand religious barriers (Pasadena millionaires, feminist artists, North Hollywood teenagers, Hedonist Malibu garden parties, nihilists, and those who are millitantly Shomer Shabbas). That doesn't mean that the Dude doesn't have an opinion or that he agree with everyone, i.e. "you human paraquat!" but he knows how to flow through life, taking the "gutters" with the  "strikes." The question "can I be an atheist and practice dudeism" is kind of a non-sequitir since the core tenant of Dudism is that you can't get uptight about that shit. You don't need to ask permission or let other people define you - besides they're all a bunch of "sinners" anyhow. That said, it turns that practicing Dudism and learning to truly abide is a very spiritual and "zesty enterprise!"

[meekon5]

let's rephrase the question.
Can/may a dudeist be an atheist. About the same as asking Cam/may a Doctor be an Atheist.
When it comes to spiritual shit....dudeism doesn't care.
Dudeism remains Agnostic and Apathetic....."We don't know and we don't care."
That is not to say we each cannot hold to belief or other, but for Dudeism it is best to leave such beliefs at the door.
Anything that get people uptight and their pantiesin a twist is not dude.
Just like my opinion dudes.

I do notice that the atheists amongst us have jumped on this question and answered in the positive.

I think the atheists are being as prescriptive as certain problem Christians here.

You may say your dudeism is atheist, but you may not tell me mine is atheist because it is not.

This is the problem I have with Richard Dawkins at the moment he has become as evangelical as those he proports to oppose.

I actually concur with cc on this.

Dudeism does not state "there is no god" so can't be atheist.

Dudeism does not care and can't be bothered.

By default Dudeism is agnostic (by none action).

In fact in stating dudeism doesn't care we are actually opening ourselves to all types of faith and none faith Dudeists, you can be;

An Atheist,
A Buddhist,
a Jew,
a Christian,
a Mormon,
a Hindu,
a Pagan,
a Wiccan,
a Druid,
a Sikh,
an Agnostic,
An I haven't even ever bothered to think about it,

We just don't care, any of you are welcome.

The reason people like Icon were banned recently was not because they were christians, but because they continued to wave their opinions, and preach their line as absolute, in our faces unwanted.

Dudeism is not Athiest unless you feel that is what you need it to be.

[BikerDude]

let's rephrase the question.
Can/may a dudeist be an atheist. About the same as asking Cam/may a Doctor be an Atheist.
When it comes to spiritual shit....dudeism doesn't care.
Dudeism remains Agnostic and Apathetic....."We don't know and we don't care."
That is not to say we each cannot hold to belief or other, but for Dudeism it is best to leave such beliefs at the door.
Anything that get people uptight and their pantiesin a twist is not dude.
Just like my opinion dudes.

I do notice that the atheists amongst us have jumped on this question and answered in the positive.

I think the atheists are being as prescriptive as certain problem Christians here.

You may say your dudeism is atheist, but you may not tell me mine is atheist because it is not.

This is the problem I have with Richard Dawkins at the moment he has become as evangelical as those he proports to oppose.

I actually concur with cc on this.

Dudeism does not state "there is no god" so can't be atheist.

Dudeism does not care and can't be bothered.

By default Dudeism is agnostic (by none action).

In fact in stating dudeism doesn't care we are actually opening ourselves to all types of faith and none faith Dudeists, you can be;

An Atheist,
A Buddhist,
a Jew,
a Christian,
a Mormon,
a Hindu,
a Pagan,
a Wiccan,
a Druid,
a Sikh,
an Agnostic,
An I haven't even ever bothered to think about it,

We just don't care, any of you are welcome.

The reason people like Icon were banned recently was not because they were christians, but because they continued to wave their opinions, and preach their line as absolute, in our faces unwanted.

Dudeism is not Athiest unless you feel that is what you need it to be.

Unless the clearly stated beliefs of those faiths are in opposition to the principles of Dudeism.
Then one of the other has to give.
A person would need to either bend the rules of the faith to accommodate a Dudeist stance or be less Dude to be of the faith.
I would not make a claim that a person can not be of any given faith and be a Dudeist but I would state that the beliefs of some faiths are diametrically opposed to the basic principles of Dudeism. A faith, any faith is not Identity. It is belief.
As the first thing that any person sees to do with Dudeism is "An ancient philosophy that preaches non-preachiness". As soon as one goes down the road of a theist position of a personal and involved God aligning the inevitable outcomes with Dudeism IMPO becomes like putting a camel through the eye of a needle.
The idea that "Life is short and complicated and nobody knows what to do about it" does not IMO resemble most of the religious "biggies". They make no bones about the idea that they DO know what to do about it. They actively prescribe a way and go so far as to say any other way is bound for all sorts of ugliness.
Now beyond that I'd rather not go down the same old road of people pointing out that most "moderate" whatevers don't think that way. It's been hashed over ad nauseum.

[Masked Dude]

My point was that it's possible. I'm not some sort of evangelical or militant atheist. I can't think of a time when I've watched or read anything by Dawkins or really any of them that do interviews.

So if anyone thinks I'm trying to deconvert or push it, it means I've not typed it right or they've missed my points.

But I agree Dudeism has no actual stance on it. I'm sure most like it that way.