Dudeism and Theism

[DigitalBuddha]

I had to post his real name because he was discussing the forum and the issue of his being banned on the FB page, asking for people to renounce their ordinations. He removed his own veil of anonymity. Rest assured I would never reveal any personal data otherwise.

Jesus, mang! Why the hell would the waste his time doing shit like that? The undude needs to relax; life goes on, man.

Personally, I suspect that he wasn't really a "christian," and was only using that particular religion to fuck with people. But, that's just like my opinion, man.

Nah, I think he truly was what he said he was. Why do I say that?  I've dealt with quite a number of similar whack jobs.  Not that my opinion should define this situation; I'm just a child wondering into the middle of a movie...

Actually, icon was probably best described as "a child wondering into the middle of a movie...with no frame of reference."

[jdurand]

As for real names, I quit trying to hide my real name about the time the web started.  I'd been on several mailing lists before the WWW hit and one in particular was discussing computer security risks.  On all these lists we used our real names and also posted other contact info, full address, phone, etc.  Everyone there was a professional and they were private lists, so no danger.

Well, wouldn't you know it, not long after the WWW started up some clowns posted the archives of all of those lists for the world to read.  Nothing redacted, all names, titles, addresses, etc. right out in the open.

So now, if you do a search for me, I normally appear on the first page of Google.  Oh well, at least I don't currently have any stalkers. 

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

Yeah my net anonymity was forfiet years ago, my profile picture is from that time. I was a moderator for the Colbert Nation Forum, and I was the captain of the Terror Bus that went to the Rally for Sanity and/or Fear in Washington, that's where that photo comes from.

Also being from a forum that was that far out on the troll edge of the internet I have seen this before, we had a guy Bobz that was Icon squared, he launched a coordinated attack on our board, we mods had to take turns babysitting the board and deleting his spam. He figured a way to auto join under a new name every second. Another time it got so bad the FBI got involved, they even went and personally interviewed one of top members.

Not to worry 'bout me, like I said I don't plan to meet this guy, I have a habit of being too tolerant and gentle, I can gather the disturbed like a Pied Piper sometimes. I have had too much experience with unstable persons, and I am just too tired and broke to deal with that shit right now. But I do have some wild stories to tell.

[Hominid]

Revgms - you're such a "storied" dude... would love to sit around a campfire and share stories...  and share some of my beer girls...

[jdurand]

I'm an admin of a tin-hat forum and we've got some security modules loaded that send an alert when two member names use the same IP address or the same computer is used for more than one user.  If it's a know couple or something, easy enough to set to ignore.  But it has popped up some people trying the new user ID thing or "I was just borrowing a friend's account".  Bzzzzt, wrong answer.

[Yeti]

As for real names, I quit trying to hide my real name about the time the web started.  I'd been on several mailing lists before the WWW hit and one in particular was discussing computer security risks.  On all these lists we used our real names and also posted other contact info, full address, phone, etc.  Everyone there was a professional and they were private lists, so no danger.

Well, wouldn't you know it, not long after the WWW started up some clowns posted the archives of all of those lists for the world to read.  Nothing redacted, all names, titles, addresses, etc. right out in the open.

So now, if you do a search for me, I normally appear on the first page of Google.  Oh well, at least I don't currently have any stalkers. 

That happened to many old timers when Google decided to index Usenet ten years ago. A lot of forgotten chatter was suddenly out in the open.

[The Guro]

This thread started out excellent... why hasn't this played out? Everything ForumDude said was great...

Am I carpet bombing with huge replies?

Or is carpet bombing like BikerDude starting 19 Anti-Theist posts to dominate the thread?

I got some great insight into previous issues and a few take aways. While I have avoided the majority of Icon's issues and have no subversive agendas... I can see how I at the very least made some feel belittled... not very dude :(

I apologize.

Today is a new day to Dude:)

[BikerDude]

This thread made me nervous given my inclination toward Christian baiting.
But in the end it is all about freedom and respect.
While my opinions may enrage Christians I don't believe I could be accused of ever having engaged in personal attacks.
And given that so many Christians (and muslims) seem incapable of seperating genuine criticism of their beliefs from personal attacks I can't really feel much sympathy for any ruffled feathers.
I remain semi mystified why Christians don't post positive things about their copilot. I'm not saying that it won't meet with different opinions but it's amazing how their particular interest seems to be in promoting censorship. Keeping any criticism of their shit off the table.
Well OK not amazing. Pretty much as expected.

[SagebrushSage]

*deleting old posts*

[Dudelyflier]

Okay.  As a lesser known scholar of religion and avowed Dudeist I feel it pertinent that I speak up on this a here forum.  First Icon does not represent Christian values.  The Gospels make it clear no one should make a show of their religion.   If people don't accept the message then walk away.  These are the words of Jesus who BTW turned water into wine to keep the party going (very dude in my humble opinion ). Any person purporting to be Christian and cramming  their beliefs up others butts is no follower of Jesus.  As to the claim that Dudeism and theism are mutually exclusive I reply nonsense.   In the words of the opening page of dudeism.com when it comes to matters concerning diety " we just don't know dude". Meta physical explorations should not be excluded from the platform as thinking about whether or not there is a deity or deities can lead us to consider how our actions affect others (the idea being that our action either please or displease the deity and whether or not we should care).  To shame others for their opinions being different is no different than Icon's occasional rants.  As for you yeti and not understanding how religious persons cannot seem to tell the difference between personal insult and honest critique of a faith, we'll dude, maybe your critique is more personal than you intended.  Well fellow dudes.  I hope I haven't cause offence.  To any I have offended I apologize.   Oh and when it come to "a priori" (sic) that ain't just an opinion man.  If it's apriori  true it's true no matter what.

[HnauHnakrapunt]

they don't like Christians with an agenda, who are here to "lead them to the light" so to speak

The funny thing is the light is so universal that we have atheists wishing to enlighten people, Buddhists looking for enlightenment, gay people coming into the light etc. It looks like the light is mostly some positive thing but is used in many ways.