I have been paying close attention lately...

Started by DigitalBuddha, December 21, 2013, 08:16:31 AM

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DigitalBuddha

Just a thought, dudes...

I have been paying close attention lately (very UNslacking of me, I'll repent later) to all of the scrutiny and outcry ObamaCare is getting all over the web and elsewhere, and without regurgitating all of the accusations about a "healthcare system" accredited to President Obama that is, so far, a disaster, I wish that people would think a bit deeper than the watered down pop news the public is inundated with on a regular daily basis similar to Gerber's Baby Food. We are spoon fed mush everyday!

First of all, ObamaCare is not about healthcare. If you think so, you are living in a delusion. ObamaCare has NEVER really been about any kind of health care system for you to avail yourself of; it is, however, about control. Control of you, your thinking, your money, your freedom and your life. It is a very slick diabolical way to get Americans, under the guise of healthcare, further and further under the control of the global elite.

Consider; do you really believe that ObamaCare was conceived by President Obama? If you do, you are thinking in a very shallow manner and not aware of the powers currently controlling the White House and the two other branches of American Government (Congress and Justice).

President Obama is nothing more than a figure head, a lightening rod and a patsy for the global elite, who are running the show behind the scenes. He is the puppet, NOT the puppet master. He takes much of his orders from powers higher than the White House, higher than Congress and well above the Justice branch of government. We like to believe that the President is "his own man." Nice fantasy, but so is The Wizard of Oz. If you think he is, think again. And I'm not limiting it to President Obama alone.

And, in reality, an awful lot of the personalities running the show behind the scenes (the puppet masters) have a right to do what they are doing, at least in theory, that is. They are Americans, many of them, and we are to have a government "by the people, of the people, and for the people," and it could be argued that these "movers and shakers," AKA, the ruling elite, have just as much right to influence government as you or me. Or, are you under the impression that only those directly hired by the people (i.e., voted into office) make all the rules and take all the decisions? If so, go read your Constitution. I can assure you without a doubt that the self-appointed ruling elite are under NO such delusion. Although, many hope YOU are.

But, herein lies the problem; what is the hidden agenda? What are the real goals of these people and organizations (both inside and outside of government)? How much of the influence and power brokering, not to mention out right manipulation, stems from people in power, wielding power, with a globalist view point who are hell bent on turning the US Constitution in to fly paper and relegate it to the dust bin of history? Do you know? Have you thought about it?

I mentioned "accredited to President Obama" above, because the people we are talking about, the power elite, don't care who "gets the credit," as long as they get the power. Power is their goal, power is their drug of choice, and careful manipulation of reality and truth is their methodology for achieving it.

If you want to know more about who is behind the scenes running the show, and if you want to understand the crazy mixed up agenda and those behind it currently wielding enormous power on a global scale, try reading one of the most insightful books on the subject by one of the global elite's past insiders, Professor Carroll Quigley, who decided to "rat on them" one could say, because he believed they were "too important to history not to be known and understood." They were not happy with Professor Quigley and his book.

You can get Professor Quigley's book "Tragedy and Hope; A history of the World in Our time" for free here... http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf

Professor Quigley was no light weight; he was, as noted, an insider and confidant to those who rule quietly behind the scenes. His book is considered MUST reading for anyone who wants to understand who is wielding global power and how they operate. After reading it, you'll never see the world quite the same again. His book will literately shock you. This is NOT a book globalists want you to read.

Some information on Professor Carroll Quigley; Quigley was born in Boston, and attended Harvard University, where he studied history and earned B.A, M.A., and Ph.D. degrees. He taught at Princeton University, and then at Harvard, and then at the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University from 1941 to 1976...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

jdurand

Biggest problem I have is it has nothing to do with health CARE, it's ALL about health INSURANCE.  Insurance does NOT equate to care, only a profit for a private insurance company.

This never was about caring for the ill, only caring for the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical companies they partner with.

ZoeAbides

DB that's just, like, your opinion man.

I'll not speak on the powerful gaining more power or the political elite nihilists.  Too many strands in Duder's head.  I will say that although the Affordable Care Act is pretty fuckin' far from perfect, it's not at all what Pres. Obama originally wanted... but it is all he could get away with in the current political climate.  Obama knows how to play the game and although he was throwing for a strike, the Walters tried to mark it 0, so he was able to work the system so they at least marked it 8.  Yes, it's a ringer for a ringer.  Yes it's a shill for the insurance companies, however it does indeed do some good.  Least of which is the doing away with pre-existing conditions loopholes.  Obama originally wanted single-payer or "Medicaid for all"... something similar to what pretty much every other first world country has.  But the Republicans and especially the Kochheads (Tea Party) threw a hissy fit.  As nerfed as it is, it's all he could get away with.  Hell, the Republicans voted against THEIR OWN BILLS, simply out of malicious spite.

Obamacare may not be the free healthcare we want, need, and deserve but at least it is a start in addressing the pilfering, greedy bastards that have control of healthcare thus far.  Far more people will have coverage, many of which have not been able to get (or have been outright denied literally to death) previously.

And yes, we won't have actual Health Care until we can wrestle control away from the pharmaceutical and insurance companies altogether.  As long as a massive profit can be made from the sick and suffering, in this country, that is a line you DO NOT- besides, Dude, actually healing the sick is not a recipe for financial success.  It's far more profitable to simply manage symptoms than to actually cure anything.  But that's how spoiled brats think.  I got mine, Jack, good luck fighting over the scraps to get yours.

Shagbeard

DigitalBuddha, that is a Swiss frakking watch and mark it a ten! Agree with you there, man.
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jdurand

I applied for O-care through our state site and received SIX identical letters in the mail telling me I didn't make enough money to get any subsidies, but was still required to have insurance.

I also received a letter from my insurance company that my rates were going up effective immediately.

Shagbeard

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DigitalBuddha

 ;D   Friend of mine sent me an email and said "this is a perfect representation of Obamacare." ..........



I didn't ask for details, except to ask "is this is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?"  8)


Masked Dude

The way I see it is that it's a trainwreck. I don't see how it's not what Obama wanted, seeing as he and Pelosi had it in front of Congress with no one else seeing it, including their buddies. But don't worry; I don't have any more love for Republicans. I loathe both parties.

My insurance used to be under $90/month. I can no longer have that insurance. I don't qualify for any subsidies so now I'm faced with paying 50% of my monthly income. This new insurance has a deductible that I can never meet so it will never cover anything. Also it won't cover any of my preexisting conditions, which is still allowed in some circumstances.

So for me it will cost me less to pay the fine and all bills out of pocket. I'll be paying them anyway, so it's either half my income or the annual fine.

No one I know personally will pay less.

I blame both parties: The Democrats for passing it without reading it and the Republicans for not fighting it hard enough. Until both sides quiet the loudmouths and start actually helping us, this won't work and will get worse.
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Shagbeard

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Masked Dude

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ZoeAbides

#10
As long as health care is politicized and for-profit, all politicians from any party will continue to pee on our rugs and continually fuck us all in the ass.  Unfortunately that won't change as long as our country is as polarized as much as it is right now.

Yes I voted for Obama, twice, but he's my president not my special friend.  Don't get me wrong, I do not support or agree with all his decisions.  I may think Obamacare is a good start ("good" being subjective), but only that it's better than the alternative... and ONLY just a start.  We have a looooooong way to go, but a road begins with one cobblestone.  My hope is that it lays the groundwork for future revisions leading eventually to free healthcare for all.  But, that's just, like, my opinion man.

I'm done talking about politics now, too many bad vibes, man.

jgiffin

Some very interesting thoughts, all. Let's tie up a few of these strings:

1. Obamacare is about insurance and control, not health care. They "solved" the wrong problem. No one needs insurance, they need AFFORDABLE health care. Ever wonder how people got along 50-100 years ago, before insurance was commonplace? Medical care was cheaper. Then, an ever increasing usurpation of the field by insurance and govt added surreal levels of administration, bureaucracy, and associated costs. Ask yourself why cosmetic breast augmentations are relatively cheap. Since it's not insured, docs have to charge market sustainable rates. Insure it or make it an entitlement and prices would skyrocket.

2. Republican/Tea-Party resistance did not impact the bill. It was drafted and passed solely by Democrats when they had both houses and the presidency. They could - and did - pass whatever they wanted. Then the S.Ct. Rubber stamped the unconstitutional mess. Democrats need to own it, stop blaming other people, and convince us this shit storm is chocolate rain.

3. Apropos of the legal aspects, the govt can now require you to buy anything, and if you refuse, penalize you an arbitrary amount. The court will call it a tax and make you pay your govt overlords. We started a revolution over a tax on stamps but now acquiesce to this kind of abuse.

4. Obamacare is working as intended. They passed it because the country wasn't ready for single payer. Now they'll point to the failure and say, "See, we tried working with private industry but they're evil...so the only alternative is total govt control."

5. This isn't new. HealthScare and Social Insecurity are two cornerstones of liberal politics. You can't take care of yourself and the private industry bogeymen are out to get you. Thank god the govt will protect you...at the low, low price of every sacred liberty you own.

Fucking fascists, indeed.

Masked Dude

I agree, jgiffin. The reasons I don't like it actually come from pro-Obamacare sites. Obama, Pelosi, & Reid got it passed with no review (never allowed). But I would love affordable health care. Everyone does. This ain't it.
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jgiffin

Sympathies on your personal situation, too. Since Obama says it's just anecdotal, you should pay your fine in anecdotal dollars.

Everyone has insurance but no one has healthcare. It's like when Chairman Mao kept saying the production of shoes was up 200% but no one in China had shoes. (Exaggerated for effect).

elgranduderino

Democrats and republicans are the same kaka just different flavor. The saddest thing here Mr. Digital, is that most Americans buy into that notion of "freedom" they have long been feed by mass media and enjoy that big black dildo up their poopholes you have posted. What can one simple dude do against such a massive monstrous organization, I have always asked that myself?