Was thinking, we don't see many...

[milnie]

The blade is the sign of the feminine ... Where did I read that? Oh god, am I quoting dan brown!?!

[Gruene Hall Dude]

Well now, let us consider the following dude like characteristics of Marlyn Monroe........
- Digged taking extended baths - very dude-like



   OK, mang dudes; that's just like more of my opinion, man.

Know I'm late to the party, but I have to agree with the Digi Dude that only dude-like qualities should be considered, not whether an individual has a penis or a vagina and an amazing pair of knockers.  I could be wrong, but prefer to think I'm not.

[DigitalBuddha]

Well now, let us consider the following dude like characteristics of Marlyn Monroe........
- Digged taking extended baths - very dude-like



   OK, mang dudes; that's just like more of my opinion, man.

Know I'm late to the party, but I have to agree with the Digi Dude that only dude-like qualities should be considered, not whether an individual has a penis or a vagina and an amazing pair of knockers.  I could be wrong, but prefer to think I'm not.

She definitely had zesty knockers, fuckin' eh!

[Bo Abides]

As a noob Dude (and a female one too) I would nominate Guanyin and Empress Shen Wuhu - might have misspelled both of those names. It's been a long time since I dabbled with Taoism and Buddhism,  so details are sketchy...

Empress Shen Wuhu became a Buddhist nun after a difficult life, if I recall correctly she was spurned by her husband yet she raised  her husband's son when his concubine died while giving birth,  that's pretty abiding IMO 

There are many stories about Guanyin (spellings and the name may vary wildly) and how she wanted to end suffering, to make things more confusing some legends refer to her as a man, but I think she was a female dude with a good heart.

One story I can think of went something like this - her father wanted her to marry a man she did not love, probably a nihilist, she made a deal with her father that if the marriage could end 3 types of suffering (I think it was the suffering of the old, sick and dying or something like that) she would marry, if the suffering could not be fixed she wanted to become a nun. Her father became so pissed off he sent her off to work hard labor, she was so good that the animals took pity on her and helped her with her work. Her POd dad tried to burn down the temple then she put out the fire with her hands, didn't even use a hot pad! That frightened her dad so he ordered her execution. The executioner (most likely a fascist)  tried to kill her with an ax but it broke into many pieces, so he tried a sword, that broke too. He shot at her with arrows and missed. He then used his hands, as he attempted to strangle her she realized her father would probably kill him if he failed so she forgave the man, took all his bad karma for killing her and died leaving him guilt free (what a dude!) she went to hell where she saw suffering  then she released all the good karma she had, she turned hell into paradise with all the good karma she had earned through all her lives. Whoever was in charge of hell sent her back to earth where she returned to the Fragrant (maybe it was the Flower Mountain?) Mountain.

When her father became sick somebody told him his illness could be cured by making a remedy from the arms and eyes (eww that's pretty gross!) from somebody with no hostilities and that somebody lived on the mountain. She gave up her arms and eyes so that he could live. He went to the mountain to thank the person who had given up so much for him to live and found it was the daughter he had ordered to be killed, he begged to be forgiven. She became a thousand armed goddess. Your details may vary depending on make and model... Sorry that's all I remember, only a true dude would give up their arms and eyes for some asshole who wanted you dead. I'm pretty easy going, might give one eye up if it was medically necessary to save a life but not both and not my arms, at least not willingly! Thankfully medical science has come a long way since then!

When Empress Shen Wuhu (BTW i love the Wuhu part of her name though maybe I misspelled it lol) became a nun she took the name Guanyin.

As for Ms. Monroe, I'd say she probably wasn't a dude, enjoying coitus is great but getting zesty with brothers is pretty undude  IMO.

[DigitalBuddha]

Fuckin'e eh, I second Guanyin and Empress Shen Wuhu for great dude in history.

[Bo Abides]

Thanks Dude, might want to check up on the story though! I lost my books when I got divorced so pulled those out of my ass so to speak. Details get sketchier every year, must be the flashbacks. And there were many other stories/legends about them.

[Bo Abides]

Here are a few more I would nominate -

Rosa Parks -she refused to cross the line, imagine the strength it took for her to stand her ground - mark her 8 - nuff said

Sacagawea - she made the trip happen and she had a baby along the way!

Helen Keller - Deaf, mute, blind, political activist, lecturer, author, teacher. Without Anne Sullivan we probably never would have heard of Helen Keller so I'd think of them both as Dudes.

Joan of Arc - peasant, warrior, leader, martyr, Saint. Not much of a slacker but she meant well.

Harriet Tubman - born a slave, escaped, helped hundreds escape, union spy, suffragist - last words "I go to prepare a place for you." Buried with military honors.

Harper Lee- only one published book but what a great book it is! George W gave her Presidential Medal of Freedom, proving even a guy like him can get it right once in awhile.

Lady Bird Johnson - "Where flowers bloom, so does hope." As a gardener she has been an inspiration to me, every garden I designed with peace and rest in mind for my clients and their neighbors to enjoy and with each shovel of dirt I would think of that saying to help lighten my load.

Eleanor Roosevelt - civil rights activist, first lady, criticized for speaking out against anti-Japanese prejudice, was against the internment camps that her hubby gave executive orders for - bet they didn't have coitus for a long time after that! She tried to make her husband a better man  but he didn't always listen. An elderly couple (one was born in Japan then immigrated as child the other was US born Japanese) I knew who were forced into the camps held her in high regard for the way she tried to squelch the racism they faced. BTW if anybody wants to see an interesting film about The Japanese experience during that time I suggest "Behind Barbed Wire" great documentary and there are some cool dudes I have had the pleasure of knowing for many years IRL, sadly some have passed on. I hope the lessons they taught me about grace under pressure will stay with me always.


A dude with a Johnson that I would also nominate is John Steinbeck - his books are stunning, he shared the fucked up human condition so well that many people where he lived scorned him when he was alive, funny now in many of the cities he lived on the Monterey Peninsula he is celebrated as a local hero and there are all sorts of memorials to the man but for a long time he was considered an embarrassment for exposing flaws.

[panchostein]

Ok, even though it's a fictional character and besides the conversation is about "Great Dudes in History", I always think of Phoebe Buffay of Friends is a real Dude. Don't know much about Lisa Kudrow, though...

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[meekon5]

Rosa Parks -she refused to cross the line, imagine the strength it took for her to stand her ground - mark her 8 - nuff said

Sacagawea - she made the trip happen and she had a baby along the way!

Helen Keller - Deaf, mute, blind, political activist, lecturer, author, teacher. Without Anne Sullivan we probably never would have heard of Helen Keller so I'd think of them both as Dudes.

Joan of Arc - peasant, warrior, leader, martyr, Saint. Not much of a slacker but she meant well.

Harriet Tubman - born a slave, escaped, helped hundreds escape, union spy, suffragist - last words "I go to prepare a place for you." Buried with military honors.

Harper Lee- only one published book but what a great book it is! George W gave her Presidential Medal of Freedom, proving even a guy like him can get it right once in awhile.

Lady Bird Johnson - "Where flowers bloom, so does hope." As a gardener she has been an inspiration to me, every garden I designed with peace and rest in mind for my clients and their neighbors to enjoy and with each shovel of dirt I would think of that saying to help lighten my load.

Eleanor Roosevelt - civil rights activist, first lady, criticized for speaking out against anti-Japanese prejudice, was against the internment camps that her hubby gave executive orders for - bet they didn't have coitus for a long time after that! She tried to make her husband a better man  but he didn't always listen. An elderly couple (one was born in Japan then immigrated as child the other was US born Japanese) I knew who were forced into the camps held her in high regard for the way she tried to squelch the racism they faced. BTW if anybody wants to see an interesting film about The Japanese experience during that time I suggest "Behind Barbed Wire" great documentary and there are some cool dudes I have had the pleasure of knowing for many years IRL, sadly some have passed on. I hope the lessons they taught me about grace under pressure will stay with me always.


A dude with a Johnson that I would also nominate is John Steinbeck - his books are stunning, he shared the fucked up human condition so well that many people where he lived scorned him when he was alive, funny now in many of the cities he lived on the Monterey Peninsula he is celebrated as a local hero and there are all sorts of memorials to the man but for a long time he was considered an embarrassment for exposing flaws.

Now I would not argue that this is an amazing list of great achievers (truly amazing people, who deserve respect) the problem is that they don't seem particularly Dudeist.

For instance, Joan Of Arch, an amazing achievement for a little peasant girl, especially at the time she lived, but all that knees bent running around routeen hardly seems Dudeist though.

This is all entirely in my Dudist opinion of course.

[RevKHyler]

I'd like to respectfully add Loni Anderson to the potential Dude list for her WKRP work. Hot cha cha, fellas!

[DigitalBuddha]

I'd like to respectfully add Loni Anderson to the potential Dude list for her WKRP work. Hot cha cha, fellas!

Reminds me of zesty coitus.......