UK trial reveals new al Qaeda strategy to hit West

[BikerDude]

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/21/uk-trial-reveals-new-al-qaeda-strategy-to-hit-west/

Paraquat!

They also were taught how to put poisons in face creams.

Poisons in face creams? What kind of mind?

The trial of three Birmingham men convicted Thursday of plotting to launch a "catastrophic" suicide bombing attack in the United Kingdom revealed that al Qaeda has developed a new strategy to target the West.

The new strategy involves a teacher-training approach in which a select few Western operatives are taught bombmaking and other aspects of terrorist tradecraft in the tribal areas of Pakistan and are then instructed to return back to the West to "spread the knowledge" to a larger body of Islamist extremists keen on launching attacks.

The new approach is a response to the growing toll of drone strikes which have made travel to the tribal areas increasingly perilous for Western recruits and significantly diminished al Qaeda's ability to orchestrate terrorist plots from the region.

The trial revealed that terrorist groups in Pakistan are actively dissuading Western militants from making the trip.

Two of those convicted Thursday - Irfan Naseer and Irfan Khalid - received 40 days of terrorist training in the tribal areas of Pakistan in the spring of 2011, mostly inside houses in the valleys of Waziristan.

In conversations bugged by British police, the plotters described being handled by al Qaeda operatives and having attended a training camp run by Harakat al Mujahideen, a Pakistani terrorist group closely affiliated with al Qaeda.

The recordings revealed that like other Western militants before them, they were provided detailed instruction in the tricky and potentially hazardous methods to make bombs out of substances readily available in the West, and practiced detonating them. Their instructors included Arabs and Pakistanis.

They also were taught how to put poisons in face creams.

And their teachers emphasized they should put nails inside their bombs, to act as razor-sharp shrapnel.

Naseer, a pharmacy major and the plot's alleged ringleader, was heard recalling how one of their trainers had said the July 7, 2005, London bombers had missed an opportunity to kill more people by failing to put nails in their devices.

[DigitalBuddha]

Camel fuckers, man. Looking for reverse in a Soviet tank. Unworthy adversaries.

[Boston Rockbury]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

[DigitalBuddha]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

Would you rather we use sling shots?

[Boston Rockbury]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

Would you rather we use sling shots?

Yeah I would. But my point is really that life does not stop and start at your convenience, whether you dabble in pacifism or automated weapons systems.

[DigitalBuddha]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

Would you rather we use sling shots?

Yeah I would. But my point is really that life does not stop and start at your convenience, whether you dabble in pacifism or automated weapons systems.

Well then, my suggestion is simple; grab a sling shot and get the job done, dude. 

[Zen Dog]

They learn nothing from our history.We've been getting bombed by someone or other for over a hundred years.First anarchists then the Irish.Then the Germans then the Irish again.Now the Arabs. Nothing changes.Life goes on.

[DigitalBuddha]

They learn nothing from our history.We've been getting bombed by someone or other for over a hundred years.First anarchists then the Irish.Then the Germans then the Irish again.Now the Arabs. Nothing changes.Life goes on.

Yeah, man; same ole' shit! Nothing ever changes.

[milnie]

Maybe it's a bit smarter than that. Look at how much shit you have to go through now just to get on a plane now. Our lives are becoming so much more restricted as a result that western society will grind to a halt under the perceived threat rather than the actual threat. Not that I'm belittling the loss of life resulting from their bombs. Look at the shit Americans went through with macarthy hearings and communism.

[RighteousDude]

Our lives are becoming so much more restricted as a result that western society will grind to a halt under the perceived threat rather than the actual threat.

Terrorism is our new Cold War, just a ruse to keep the money flowing into the military-industrial complex. The best thing about terrorism, from the perspective of the ruling elite, is that it's not tied to any specific nation-state, so cannot be ended by something as unfortunate as the collapse of any nation-state. It's a magic perpetual money machine for as long as the full faith and credit of the United States is worth more than shit.

Ed Abbey wrote, long ago: Be of good cheer. The military-industrial state will soon collapse. I'm more cheerful with the passing of each year. 

[BikerDude]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

The new technology permits us to do exciting things with
interactive killing software.  Wave of the future, Dude.  100% electronic.

[DigitalBuddha]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

The new technology permits us to do exciting things with
interactive killing software.  Wave of the future, Dude.  100% electronic.

Fuckin' eh

Hunter Killer Drone Strike - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjR8v1njsg

[BikerDude]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

The new technology permits us to do exciting things with
interactive killing software.  Wave of the future, Dude.  100% electronic.

Fuckin' eh

Hunter Killer Drone Strike - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjR8v1njsg

Or this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-PbjA8DIw

The thing that comes to mind is that this is all being run by a guy at a PC somewhere.
Now I'm betting that you get something like.
"Dude's! Check this out. I'm gonna frag a mortar team!"
Lots of Army Dude's gathering around the screen eating hot pockets.
"Wait for it, wait for it, Boooooooyaaaaaa!"
High fives all around....

[Boston Rockbury]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

The new technology permits us to do exciting things with
interactive killing software.  Wave of the future, Dude.  100% electronic.

Fuckin' eh

Hunter Killer Drone Strike - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjR8v1njsg

Or this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-PbjA8DIw

The thing that comes to mind is that this is all being run by a guy at a PC somewhere.
Now I'm betting that you get something like.
"Dude's! Check this out. I'm gonna frag a mortar team!"
Lots of Army Dude's gathering around the screen eating hot pockets.
"Wait for it, wait for it, Boooooooyaaaaaa!"
High fives all around....

You ever dabble in pacifism BD?

[BikerDude]

Unworthy adversaries.

Yeah stand still while we hit you with lazer-guided napalm from a drone strike you fuckin cowards! You bastards need to learn to fight fair.
I know a lack of spinal when I see one dude.

The new technology permits us to do exciting things with
interactive killing software.  Wave of the future, Dude.  100% electronic.

Fuckin' eh

Hunter Killer Drone Strike - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PjR8v1njsg

Or this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN-PbjA8DIw

The thing that comes to mind is that this is all being run by a guy at a PC somewhere.
Now I'm betting that you get something like.
"Dude's! Check this out. I'm gonna frag a mortar team!"
Lots of Army Dude's gathering around the screen eating hot pockets.
"Wait for it, wait for it, Boooooooyaaaaaa!"
High fives all around....

You ever dabble in pacifism BD?

I don't believe that you can apply the same solution to all problems.
You start with peace and then deal with the paraquat when necessary.
The reality is that the righteous are served best by what gets the job done.
The reality is that Gandhi for instance only succeeded because that was how the balance sheet came out. There just wasn't a huge deposit of oil or diamonds under India.
If there had been then peaceful resistance would have just made them easier to put the crosshairs on.
I believe in Fighting the good fight. That does happen on a lot of fronts and a lot of ways.
But when it comes to meeting fanatic Islamic Fundamentalism with violence. No problem.
I also believe in meeting racism and every other paraquatism with extreme prejudice.
It simply does not fix it's self. That has been the reality forever in the past and will be the same forever in the future.