Dudeist rights for testicles

[Boston Rockbury]

Certain things have come to light about the rights of the testicle-wearing community. I mean has it ever occured to you that ex-husbands are running around paying child support based on their 'maximum earning potential'!!! Hard to think of anything more un-dude.

Not that I'm saying things are easy for ex special ladies either. Once they've finished screwing your best friend and 'investing' the child support at Vegas, it's hard for them to work out what to do with all that spare time whilst they rattle around in that big house you paid for.

[RighteousDude]

Certain things have come to light about the rights of the testicle-wearing community. I mean has it ever occured to you that ex-husbands are running around paying child support based on their 'maximum earning potential'!!! Hard to think of anything more un-dude.

And if you really want to feel like you've been fucked in the ass (against your will) by a stranger, get married and divorced in a state whose laws are such that if you are married, non-sterile, and cohabiting when the child is conceived, you're the legal father and liable for support even if there's no possible way that the child is carrying your genes and you can prove it's not. Been there, almost did that -- Was married, in Kaliphonia, unhappily, to a woman who was exceedingly generous with her affections. When I discovered that there were rarely vacancies between her knees when I wasn't looking, I stopped partaking of her bounties in order to avoid the obvious risks. She got knocked up, moved out, and told me a few weeks later about the spawn in the chamber. Apparently I was only made privy to that shit because the genetic material donor denied his involvement.

She didn't want that kid any more than she wanted the two she already had, so I paid for the abortion. If I hadn't, I'd have been paying for someone else's kid until about five years ago, maybe longer if it had gone to college. At least at that time, there was no way to escape that liability in the state of Kaliphonia.

[RighteousDude]

Oops, meant to edit, not double-post. This sobriety shit ain't all it's cracked up to be!

[BikerDude]

I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this fucking strumpet......

[Hominid]

My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support.  THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws.  I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments.  Something wrong with that...

[Zen Dog]

My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support.  THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws.  I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments.  Something wrong with that...

Serial marriage sounds like an interesting career option over there.

[BikerDude]

My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support.  THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws.  I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments.  Something wrong with that...

Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.

[Hominid]

My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support.  THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws.  I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments.  Something wrong with that...

Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.

Fucking kills me...  just isn't right.  It's a lot to pay for some company and a little pussy.

[BikerDude]

My wife told me that in Britain (where she's lived in the past) that if your ex-wife re-marries, she forfeits any support.  THAT sounds fair... I mean, if they're being taken care of elsewhere, why the fuck should they get support anyways? The feminazis over here in Canada and the States have lobbied the government to introduce very unfair laws.  I know of people losing their jobs, making $900 a month on welfare, and jailed for not making their huge monthly support payments.  Something wrong with that...

Few states require paying the ex anything. Just the kids. Child support.
But that's not to say that it ends up any less painful.
I had a coworker who caught his wife in bed with some Dude. They got a divorce and she got the house.
He had to pay child support and most of the mortgage.
She ended up living in the house with his kids and the guy he caught her with and he was basically paying the mortgage and child support.
Poor bastard.
The Dude basically moved in with his wife and he had to pay over half his pay to them.

Fucking kills me...  just isn't right.  It's a lot to pay for some company and a little pussy.

Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.

You play you pay.

[kilteddude]

I just wish my state would require mother's to declare or attempt to contact the father of the child for child support before allowing them to apply for state assistance.  Naturally, the other part of that would be the need to investigate those that claim they don't know.
I have a former coworker whom actually lives with the father of her child, and she didn't put his name on the birth certificate because it would mean she wouldn't get as much state assistance.  Somehow, the state was informed of this, and they said they had no way to investigate because there is no way under state law to force someone to take a paternity test unless the mother asks for it.

[Boston Rockbury]

quote author=BikerDude link=topic=4247.msg35975#msg35975 date=1359127555]

Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.

You play you pay.

But then there's Righteous Dude's point that someone else plays and you still pay.

The issue of 'fairness' has to be relevant to justice otherwise you have justice which isn't just.

[BikerDude]

quote author=BikerDude link=topic=4247.msg35975#msg35975 date=1359127555]

Oh hell yeah!
Life's a bitch.
People think that this stuff is about "fairness". But what is that really?
Bottom line is that if there is a child then it's a simple fact that the child needs to be cared for.
That is the bottom line for the court.
I know another guy who got all bent out of shape cause some chick "lied" to him about being on birth control.
She got knocked up and he got nailed for paternity and child support.
He didn't think that was fair. But in the end the bottom line is that there is a kid and that kid needs to be taken care of and before the single mom should be able to collect support from taxpayers it's not unreasonable for the biological parents to do what they can.
Bottom line is rule number 1.

You play you pay.

But then there's Righteous Dude's point that someone else plays and you still pay.

The issue of 'fairness' has to be relevant to justice otherwise you have justice which isn't just.

Righteous Dude is right on that one.

But provided that it is your kid it is Justice to have to pay.
Is it "fair" that she lied and you ended up with a kid to support?
No.
Is it Just that you should be required to support it.
Yes absolutely.
Walk off a cliff and there is this thing called gravity.
Is it fair. Has nothing to do with it.
Bottom line watch where you put yer Johnson. I was told that from the time I was a boy.
You can fuck up your life big time. Be careful don't mess up.

Besides personally I was raised that you take responsibility for such things and don't whine about it.
Otherwise your a bum.
That's part of having testicles.
It's a very black mark on somebody that knocks a chick up and doesn't take responsibility.
I suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.

[Hominid]

I suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.

Shouldn't be, really. Families are a universal thing, and even men with multiple wives look after their kidlets - it's a pride thing based on our evolutionary requirement to procreate.

[BikerDude]

I suppose maybe it's a cultural thing.

Shouldn't be, really. Families are a universal thing, and even men with multiple wives look after their kidlets - it's a pride thing based on our evolutionary requirement to procreate.

The stigma is likely cultural.
Walking away would be a great shame where I come from.
Apparently not everywhere.

[Boston Rockbury]

The devil's in the detail here though dudes. Nobody's saying men shouldn't pay.

But should they have to pay for someone else's child as they do in California?

Should they have child support set at their 'maximum earnings potential' when they want a more relaxed lifestyle?
That wouldn't be enforcable within a marriage, why is the bar set higher and biting deeper when you are divorced?

The rules of gravity are fixed by nature but the rules of divorce are fixed by people. If they aren't right we can change them.