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Boston Rockbury

There are no enemies, only illusions. Photoshop?

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DigitalBuddha

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Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 05:12:35 AM
There are no enemies, only illusions. Photoshop?



This is not an illusion, my friend.........



Neither is this.........



Boston Rockbury

The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.
religion fucks kids - science fucks the planet

DigitalBuddha

Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

Boston Rockbury

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.
religion fucks kids - science fucks the planet

DigitalBuddha

Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

Boston Rockbury

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

It's a strong argument. I just wonder if it's always necessary to smash people into complete submission before one re-builds. Maybe that wasn't avoidable with Germany and Japan but trying to apply the same vibe in every type of conflict might be limiting our range of options a little.

On a smaller scale, a lot of people say that hitting their kids is an effective way of training them out of negative behaviours. My two boys are the greatest kids I could imagine. They have never been hit once.
religion fucks kids - science fucks the planet

DigitalBuddha

Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 29, 2012, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

It's a strong argument. I just wonder if it's always necessary to smash people into complete submission before one re-builds. Maybe that wasn't avoidable with Germany and Japan but trying to apply the same vibe in every type of conflict might be limiting our range of options a little.

On a smaller scale, a lot of people say that hitting their kids is an effective way of training them out of negative behaviours. My two boys are the greatest kids I could imagine. They have never been hit once.

True, children are a different story. But in the case of an asshole mass murdering maggot like osama bin laden its unlikely that "telling him off and sending him to bed without desert" will do the job. Unfortunately, it took just a little more firepower, as it did with the nazis and Japanese war lords.

Boston Rockbury

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 29, 2012, 06:27:11 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 29, 2012, 06:01:41 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

It's a strong argument. I just wonder if it's always necessary to smash people into complete submission before one re-builds. Maybe that wasn't avoidable with Germany and Japan but trying to apply the same vibe in every type of conflict might be limiting our range of options a little.

On a smaller scale, a lot of people say that hitting their kids is an effective way of training them out of negative behaviours. My two boys are the greatest kids I could imagine. They have never been hit once.

True, children are a different story. But in the case of an asshole mass murdering maggot like osama bin laden its unlikely that "telling him off and sending him to bed without desert" will do the job. Unfortunately, it took just a little more firepower, as it did with the nazis and Japanese war lords.

Osama Bin Liner may be dead but we don't have a solution to the problems in Iraq, Afghanistan or Palestine. It looks unlikely that solution will come from increasing our firepower. Unlike with Nazi Germany there are serious flaws in our own position such as our unbalanced support for Israel. Sort out our own shit, come back to the table and if they still turn up with a bomb strapped to their arse - kill the fuckers.
religion fucks kids - science fucks the planet

Stever

I myself think we should bomb them back into the stone age..wait...they are already living in the stone age..damn..ok..,but its like my opinion man,that the solution will not come from Obama-Bin-Laden,who kisses the ass of regimes like they have in China...

Hominid

In the end, the guy with the bigger stick wins. As much as I hate to admit it, the States have a good grip on keeping the whack jobs at bay. That position may not last long though...



Hominid

Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

I like your style dude. Idiots do indeed need to be whipped into submission. It's basic human nature...



DigitalBuddha

Quote from: Hominid on September 30, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalBuddha on September 28, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Quote from: Boston Rockbury on September 28, 2012, 06:02:24 AM
The events are, of course, real. It's the attitude of enmity which is an illusion. We can choose a different response.

I disagree, some people are, by their own choice, a real enemy, not an illusion. Such was osama bin laden.

I agree that some people are a real threat. What I'm questioning is our attitude to that threat. The more fear, resentment and misunderstanding we can strip away, the closer we get to a healing dialogue. When we are hurt this is very, very difficult but if we look at how the Israelis frame their neighbours as enemies it's clear that although this is understandable, when you are being attacked by misiles and suicide bombers - it doesn't bring a resolution.

My "attitude to that threat" is simple...............



After that, then we can discuss "fear, resentment and misunderstanding" and "get to a healing dialogue." That is what the free world did to Japan and Germany, and now, wouldn't ya know it, they're both free democratic peaceful nations, minding their own business and great friends of ours! Amazing! Not a violent peep out of either one for 65 years!

I like your style dude. Idiots do indeed need to be whipped into submission. It's basic human nature...

Thankie, dude. This is true; there are those dipshits in the world that require a little ass kickin' here and there, a little Walter-ish style persuasion to correct some attitude problems.

Boston Rockbury

Quote from: Stever on September 30, 2012, 07:46:54 PM
its like my opinion man,that the solution will not come from Obama-Bin-Laden,who kisses the ass of regimes like they have in China...

The US has been licking China's ass for decades. After Tianamen? the government restored 'most favored nation' status after about three minutes.
What China has done to Tibet is way over the line but the West doesn't do a thing. Then we go gettin all 'ass-kickin' about some Ay-rabs in Themiddleoffuckinnowhereistan. It's totally out of balance.
religion fucks kids - science fucks the planet