Plot question

Started by saftinger, May 02, 2011, 10:40:16 AM

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cckeiser

Also dudes, at that point in the script the big Lebowski does not know Walter and The Dude did not deliver the money. He also doesn't know The Dude's car and the suitcase were stolen. All he knows is the kidnappers did not get the money. He doesn't know Walter threw out a ringer for the ringer. So by confronting The Dude at this point he is attempting to throw suspicion from himself and trying to see if The Dude takes the bait...he does.
Remember...as a wiser fellow than I once said...The best defense is a good offense. By attacking The Dude he puts him on the defensive.
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DigitalBuddha

Quote from: meekon5 on May 03, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on May 03, 2011, 08:46:17 AM
I think TBL was accusing the Dude of not doing his job of handing over the money (even if it was a fake ringer with no cash in it) resulting in the kidnappers cutting off a toe to let TBL know they would fuck Bunny up if they didn't get their cash. But remember, it was all a travesty. TBL was in on the scheme. She kidnapped herself, man.

Actually didn't she just piss off to see friends and not tell anyone, possibly except Karl who then tried to capitalise on the situation?

Which then gave TBL the idea of capitalising on the situation.

Which then gave Walter the idea of capitalising on the situation.

I don't think the nihilists actually conspired with Bunny.

Yeah, good point, M5 dude. They got the actual toe from of the nihilists' girlfriend. Which would indicate that they were in on the plot. Lotta ins, lotta outs, mang. Need to keep my mind limber.

BikerDude

#17
You know, I'm actually leaning toward the track that
the Big L did put the money in the case.

Which means that Larry flapped a stranger in the Alps.

Hey it's all fiction so you can take either tack. But weighing the scales with a blind eye we have this scene as meager evidence of the money in the case and really no real evidence to support the contrary. Buy the contrary and you gotta buy that the Big L was a faker and could actually walk. Possible but again no evidence. And if the Big L was faking when he face planted then he's a good actor.
I mean if there was no money in the case then why confront the dude at all?
Much as we might want to believe otherwise the money went to a fucking dunce.
And think about the homework assignment. "The Louisiana Purchase."
The acquisition by the United States of America of 828,800 square miles (2,147,000 km2) of France's claim to the territory of Louisiana in 1803. A dispute immediately arose between Spain and the United States regarding the extent of Louisiana. The territory's boundaries had not been defined in the 1762 Treaty of Fontainebleau that ceded it from France to Spain, nor the 1800 Third Treaty of San Ildefonso ceding it back to France, nor the 1803 Louisiana Purchase agreement ceding it to the United States.
A 3 party dispute. Coincidence? I think not.

But the Lucky party. The US got to keep it all. Not France.
The question was whether France had the right to give it away or not.
And the Territory was very real. Not a ringer.


Lotta ins and outs.


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BikerDude

#18
Keep hitting the wrong button!


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Abideist

i never was confused about it.

the big L never put money in the case, he just needed a sap to pin the missing money on so he wouldn't have to actually pay the ransom, and instead have kidnappers go after the dude.

the big L assumes the kidnapping is totally legit. So when he recieves the toe, he assumes it's actually hers. It truly shows us how evil and uncaring, selfish and manipulative the Big L really is. He continues his scheme, regardless of the fact Bunny may have actually lost a toe.
You're damned if you dude, you're damned if you don't.

BikerDude

#20
Hey one thing though.
When the carpet pissers leave the Dudes house where do they go?
I mean they knew they had the wrong guy and they were looking for the Big L.
Did they just give up?
Or did they go to him and put the squeeze on him. Then the Dude shows the next day.
DING! Suddenly there is a kidnap plot. Looking at it that way the Big L is behind it because
he needs to pay Jackie Treehorn.
But clearly the nihilists are not in on it. They really believe they are squeezing the
Big L. So that means that it's a backdoor deal between Big L and Jackie with
both the nihilists and the Dude playing saps. Nihilists are perfect for taking
care of the Dude. Welp, that about does her, wraps her all up.

Just another facet man.


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Outer Element

Here's what really happens:

"The movie opens with a cowboy giving an exposition and the Dude smelling some milk while George Bush talks about the Gulf War. Then two guys break into the Dude's apartment and urinate on his rug. At that point, the Dude and I have our first joint and White Russian, and the plot starts to get a little blurry.[4]

"I think there was a guy in a wheelchair putting his underwear in a bag. And a guy in a motorcycle helmet with a pet ferret. And a pedophile named Jesus. And someone throws a coffee mug and hits the Dude right on the forehead. And, of course, that chick says "vagina," and that's right about where I always lose the game."

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski#Plot_Summary_by_The_Dude.28.3F.29
The Dude Abides.

meekon5

Quote from: BikerDude on May 10, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
Keep hitting the wrong button!


Is that some kind of eastern thing?
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Lao Dude

Conjectures welcome....what do you think happened to the nihilst's (Amiee Mann's) green toe.  Did TBL just throw it out? Did Brandt take it and degenerate into a necro-foot fetishist (but Bunny has to pay $100 to watch)?  Did the Nihilist brace TBL later to get the toe back?

To wax philosophical:  If we assume the girlfriend was also a nihilist, what motivated her to give up teh toe? She velieves in nozzing so she would not feel any actual love for the nihlist.

And teh strands grow...

abide..lao
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BikerDude

I'll have zee lingonberry pancakes.


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