Could it ever be?

DigitalBuddha · January 14, 2011, 04:15:30 AM

Quote from: cakebelly on January 14, 2011, 01:23:30 AM
@ DB - Sounds like a good idea - if you're keen for a sequel - but exhausting.
Chances are, if there is a chance for cash then something is already being mulled-over - those rich fuckers (these days) don't miss a trick, man.

Yeah, cake dude, true; for a community of slackers, it would be a monumental effort. Is this, what day is this?

cakebelly · January 14, 2011, 11:41:48 AM

IMO: I feel I should add, at the risk of coming across as a killjoy, that I really don't care if they make a sequel or not. Oh, sure - I would probably see it (or wait for pay per view); if it was good, yeah cool - if bad, so what? As you said, DB - if they do it we can take it or leave it, no biggy. I understand that it would be fun if they did but frankly it would just muddy the waters. I can see the Forum now "Compromised second draft!" / "Bullshit! New Testament" / "Maybe we should accept both films and lah-di-dah". We certainly don't need another movie from Hollywood. What I would like to see are (don't like the term) fan-films. Something original by Dudes for Dudes.

Edit:
And while we are on the subject of films: will somedude please make a freakin' video for the Abideist Channel! I could learn a lot and not be bored by my own dreary offerings. Fire-Dude Dave made one (lovely piece - great tune, serene visuals, dudely):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8BUJTPnpJM

meekon5 · January 14, 2011, 11:58:51 AM

I agree with Cake.

There is a great little documentary "Werner Herzog eats his shoe" do see it to understand it.

But Herzog makes a statement where he says if you want to make a film go and do it, steal the film stock and camera's if you have to, but go and do it.

More films are being made by "normal" people and Hollywood is beginning to feel the bite like the record industry dinosaurs.

Make it distribute it and cut out the neolithic middle men that should have died out years ago, who under estimate Americas (and the worlds) intellect and persist in re-making dumbed down versions of what where very good films but they think people wont have seen them because people don't do subtitles.

Soap box down and walking away with hands up.

Rev. Gary (revgms) · January 14, 2011, 12:04:22 PM

Wow dudes, some excellent Dude think here.

Guess I'll just sit back and do a J, watch the ball roll and mark it as it is. Ya' know, abide.

It would be cool to see some fan films, and I certainly dig the style of our own Little Lebowski crew, and I hope they throw some serious rocks with their efforts.

Cheers

DigitalBuddha · January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM

Quote from: cakebelly on January 14, 2011, 11:41:48 AMWhat I would like to see are (don't like the term) fan-films. Something original by Dudes for Dudes.

You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)

Dig your concept of "Something original by Dudes for Dudes." Fucking eh!

meekon5 · January 14, 2011, 12:19:55 PM

Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...

Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.

they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.

cakebelly · January 14, 2011, 12:26:49 PM

@M5 - well said, I'll note the Herzog thing and make some time (sometime) to check it out, thanks for the tip.
@Didge - thanks, yeah - check out Fire Dude Dave's video. Oh, and Dudes, if you have a You Tube account and you know of another Dude on there; comment on their videos, fave them if you like them. We can use this resource - add another strand to the rug, dudes. Hi, Revgms - welcome on board the Abideist Channel - got any videos, Dude?

I should like to start off a Video Thread but I don't really know much about the medium (well, nowt really). However, I'd like to encourage Dudes to sign up with You Tube (yeah, they are assholes) - we can, I think, use it to our advantage. As M5 commented: just do it.
Don't over-think it. Claim some of that net space.

DigitalBuddha · January 14, 2011, 12:29:29 PM

Quote from: meekon5 on January 14, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...

Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.

they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.

Ha! Just had a thought inspired by your comment on Ford Prefect; I wonder if Ford could have been played by Jeff Bridges in his dude like persona? Would it have worked? Was the character of Ford, as written by Adams, dude like enough to have the dude fit in?

Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.

cakebelly · January 14, 2011, 12:31:57 PM

Quote from: meekon5 on January 14, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
..You make good points, cake dude; fucking Hollywood, they beliefs in nosing, man --- except over feeding the monkey, the almighty dollar. case in point: look what they did to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It wasn't too bad, but no where as good as Douglas Adam's books or the original 12 part radio drama. (real fan here of THGTTG)...

Yeah man, that was a pisser (The League); laughable, bush-league symbolism with Sawyer saluting Allan Quatermain's grave (death of the Brit Empire - rise of the American - but still Anglo-Saxon - Empire). Fuck, no wonder Alan Moore washed his hands of it.

Yes no disrespect to Mos Def (however he spells its) he was not my idea of Ford Prefect but had just been put in there because there was no racial minority represented.

they did the same thing with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by putting Tom Sawyer in the cast when he wasn't in the graphic novel, and if they'd portrayed half the content of the original book they wouldn't be able to screen it.

Oops, fucked that up: Yeah man, that was a pisser (The League); laughable, bush-league symbolism with Sawyer saluting Allan Quatermain's grave (death of the Brit Empire - rise of the American - but still Anglo-Saxon - Empire). Fuck, no wonder Alan Moore washed his hands of it.

cakebelly · January 15, 2011, 05:05:17 PM

Links to watch movies/short films online: http://www.ubu.com/film/
http://www.openculture.com/freemoviesonline
http://www.snagfilms.com/films/browse/a-z
http://www.theworldcinematheque.com/TheworldcInemateque.com/World_Cinematheque.html

meekon5 · January 17, 2011, 06:11:18 AM

Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:29:29 PM
...Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.

Now I have to agree LOTR was excellent, but they couldn't leave that alone either could they (what was that shite with the Warg riders attacking the refugees from Edoras on the way to Helm's Deep).

Actually though it is the closest to the original (see the cartoon version).

I actually feel I gave almost seven years of my life to this set of films from the first time i heard the rumours they were making them.

I must ask though, are they so good because of hollywoods intervention, or despite hollywoods intervention and the backbone Steve Jakson held in stopping them messing with it too much (but do see the wiki pages for the huge amount of variation from the original)?

DigitalBuddha · January 17, 2011, 10:38:45 AM

Quote from: meekon5 on January 17, 2011, 06:11:18 AM
Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 14, 2011, 12:29:29 PM
...Also, have to say one thing for Hollywood, IMHO, for the most part, they did pretty damn good at producing a faithful screen version of The Lord of the Rings. There was a lot of potential to really fuck up TLOTR, lotta ins, lotta outs in the epic story line to piss on if they wanted to.

Interesting point on the Wargs, M5, going to have to go back and re-read that section again. Did you ever hear the BBC Radio Drama version? I posted a link to a torrent for a 13 part stereo adaptation done in the 80's. It's nothing short of awesome, mang!

Now I have to agree LOTR was excellent, but they couldn't leave that alone either could they (what was that shite with the Warg riders attacking the refugees from Edoras on the way to Helm's Deep).

Actually though it is the closest to the original (see the cartoon version).

I actually feel I gave almost seven years of my life to this set of films from the first time i heard the rumours they were making them.

I must ask though, are they so good because of hollywoods intervention, or despite hollywoods intervention and the backbone Steve Jakson held in stopping them messing with it too much (but do see the wiki pages for the huge amount of variation from the original)?

meekon5 · January 17, 2011, 10:46:47 AM

Quote from: digitalbuddha on January 17, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
...interesting point on the Wargs, M5, going to have to go back and re-read that section again. Did you ever hear the BBC Radio Drama version? I posted a link to a torrent for a 13 part stereo adaptation done in the 80's. It's nothing short of awesome, mang!..

Hear it Man! I actually have a poster of the original broadcast. BBC Radio 4. Ian Holme Actually playing Frodo. A true Classic.

Sundays, used to be the business, sitting there doing my homework listening to whatever book they had decided to dramatise next, excellent.

cakebelly · February 01, 2011, 10:06:43 AM

Well, there's a rumor: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what

meekon5 · February 01, 2011, 10:42:18 AM

Quote from: cakebelly on February 01, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Well, there's a rumor: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/01/tara-reid-announces-plans-for-big-lebowski-2-wait-what

Sorry but typical bloody Hollywood, leave it alone! Just because the first was so good doesn't mean you can do the same again.

Oh and Tara Reid "I googled it!" Yep that's always a good way to get reliable info on anything!