Druid Dudes

[Caesar dude]

I'd like to start this new thread on Druids...peaceful dudes who wear robes....Here's a short film to get the ball rolling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMccnQlKCwA

Peace dudes.

[jakubol]

That's very fucking interesting, man. It really is. I don't know if I could get all the way in it, but I'd love to spend some time with those people. Far away from rat race and fucking human paraquats. Actually one day I might, as I live on "this green island with many manes" now (unless that means only Ireland - in that case I live on the slightly bigger one to the right) World would be better place if more people were like them.

Abide!

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

Can't watch right now.

I have a friend who has been with a coven for 25 years or so, Wiccan (druid compeer from what I understand). We chat, and he digs the Dudeist style. I could never get into most of that stuff, too much crafting and ritual, but I think Zen has too much structure and ritual so the bar is pretty low for me with that.

[meekon5]

So which branch of Druidry do you want to talk about, which starting date?

Considering that Paulinus eradicated them on Angelsea during the first century CE. It was this military action that ensured the legion was not in Londinium when Boudicca came to call. Paulinus marched back from his campaign in Angelsea to put down the reballion after.

Nice to see Phillip Carr-Gomm, read enough of his stuff in the past.

The NHM has had dealings with Emma Restall Orr (see pagan repatriation of museum exhibits).

I did know members of the Insular Order of Druids at one point (I think they disbanded a while ago).

Dont get me wrong, I count myself as a Pagan, more a Neo-Pagan, and more a devotee of chaos than anything.

I constanly carry a large piece of black Quartz so am a crystal carrying new ager.

At the risk of self promotion here is a talk I gave at the Natural History Museum a while back.

One has to recognise Crowley's influence in a lot of things Pagan/Neo Pagan. I notice the circle rituals start in the east and progress (with the rising of the sun) to the south, then on to the west, this is actually Crowley's inovation.



Now of course this is all in my humble opinion.

[meekon5]

Can't watch right now.

I have a friend who has been with a coven for 25 years or so, Wiccan (druid compeer from what I understand). We chat, and he digs the Dudeist style. I could never get into most of that stuff, too much crafting and ritual, but I think Zen has too much structure and ritual so the bar is pretty low for me with that.

Modern Zen has dissapeared up its own backside. Too much reliance on ritual and form not enough on just breaking the illusion.

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

I like Zen, I just don't dig "practicing" Zen.

[meekon5]

I like Zen, I just don't dig "practicing" Zen.

Surely thats an oxymoron "practicing Zen".

The whole point of Zen is you just are, no practice, no mind.

(no dude, no oat soda, NO OAT SODA, which bastard has stolen my beverage?)

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

We just don't know man. Gotta remember to be careful when a beverage is involved.

It's like being "on the path", I was like, how can I not be on the path of my life, it is inescapable (sorta), the question is, which direction you are walking on it.

But I am still at work, and this may require limbering up a bit.

[meekon5]

We just don't know man. Gotta remember to be careful when a beverage is involved.

It's like being "on the path", I was like, how can I not be on the path of my life, it is inescapable (sorta), the question is, which direction you are walking on it.

But I am still at work, and this may require limbering up a bit.

I personally dont believe in pre-destiny.

I dont believe we have a path mapped out before us.

I dont believe we hit a place at a time and thats it unavoidable demise.

I believe we are the culmination of every thing we have seen, everything we have heard, every thing we have done, all of this brings me to the moment now in which I make the descision.

This is the difference between fate and karma.

Fate is a book that says at a certain time we will be in a certain place and that is it no choice no avoiding it the bus hits us (see films like destination to follow this concept through to the unlogical conclusion).

Karma is the driving force of the past made focused by ones self. I make the choice, or make the mistake that causes me to step out in front of the bus.

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

The future is every possibility, reduced by karma.

Read earlier some one saying how trying to describe Zen using words is like trying to catch a cloud with a rope.

I didn't mean to say my path is already worked out, what I meant was that no matter where I step, that is the path. There is no "path" to enlightenment.

I do think many traditions can bring about the "understanding", the knowing that reveals "abiding" as the "way".

Sorry, they had a sale on quotation marks and the Big Lots.

[meekon5]

to quote Brother Lawrence:

"Men invent means and methods of coming at God's love, they learn rules and set up devices to remind them of that love, and it seems like a world of trouble to bring oneself into the consciousness of God's presence. Yet it might be so simple. Is it not quicker and easier just to do our common business wholly for the love of him?"

Do look him up a very Zen style christian monk from 1691.

[cakebelly]

The Dude Brother Lawrence sounds like a feller I could abide; just think, if he'd had the required education he may have become just another dry, spiritless cleric. Thanks for the intro, M5 - I was not aware of the Dude.