Shane MacGowan: a dude?

[DudeGraeck]

This just popped into my mind. I'm not convinced myself, but the more I think about it, the more I think that Shane MacGowan might be a dude. He's certainly a great "something" in history.  He might even personally object to being called a dude. But he certainly has a plethora of Dude-like qualities.



Check out the lyrics for Rain Street, Sick Bed of Cuchulainn, Bottle of Smoke, and others...

Check out Shane singing "Kitty"

[meekon5]

I do remember he was sacked from the Pogues after he got so drunk that he fell out of the back of the van once too often so they just left him there.

I don't know if he makes it to Dudeism.

I do love his music though.

[DudeGraeck]

Maybe this VIDEO / INTERVIEW will weigh in on the question.

[meekon5]

Watching the video I would be worried about confusing brain death with laid back.

I would like to see a similar interview with him twenty years ago.

I prefer to remember him as the bright and witty individual of that time rather than the punch drunk zombie who's only just damaged his brain more by alcohol and by landing on his head falling over drunk.

My opinion of course.

[Rev. Ed C]

Are you serious?  This guy's mind's not limber, it's limp!  He doesn't have the sensibilities of a Dudeist, let alone the revered qualities of a Dude.  I mean, I love Ollie Reid, but he was no Dude, he's a man who wasted his life towards the end, and I can't imagine MacGowan to be much different.  Great men, great talents, put to waste due to now knowing how to be laid back and chilled when it came to booze.

Being the great crusader of Dudely moderation, I don't wish to sound like a broken record but... fzzzt, fzzzt, fzzzt....

Keep it Limber, Dudes

[Rev. Gary (revgms)]

Here, here, Dude.

Abiding is understanding your limits, and not crossing the line.

Got so bad for me that I fouled every time I was up to roll, I had to put the oat sodas behind me. Every Dude has different ways of finding abiding, so what helps my game may not help yours and vice versa, so don't expect any preachiness about sobriety from me. You know when you are limber and when you are just drunk, I just wish you well.

[cakebelly]

Nah, I like the fellah's music but he is no Dude, Dudes.

[Busmum]

hmmm... does he not get at least a nod for merely being alive?

rather like muhammed ali, but from booze, not punches 

[cakebelly]

  Oh yeah, he'll always get a Dudeist nod, from me, anyway.

[meekon5]

In as much as you can give someone a nod for not having killed themselves completely yet, he gets a nod from me, and a little shake of the head (at least with Ali you can feel sorry for him, not for Mr MacGowan, in my humble opinion).

[Abideist]

What helped me stop "going over the line" was remembering the calorie content of the alcohol and limiting myself to low alcohol percentage beverages. If I want to experiment with some new beers or some double ipa's and the like, I keep it to one beer per brand, and never drink more than 4 beers when drinking...period.

Booze is expensive, costly both on your wallet, your waist, and your mind.

One exception is if you have a lady friend with you, then it's recommended to keep your drinking to half what you normally would, or maybe double if your that type of dude...haha

[meekon5]

...
One exception is if you have a lady friend with you, then it's recommended to keep your drinking to half what you normally would, or maybe double if your that type of dude...haha

Or just match her drink for drink (so then you don't seem either more of an alcoholic than she is, or too much of a wuss)

[Busmum]

...
One exception is if you have a lady friend with you, then it's recommended to keep your drinking to half what you normally would, or maybe double if your that type of dude...haha

Or just match her drink for drink (so then you don't seem either more of an alcoholic than she is, or too much of a wuss)

that would be a challenge on a date with me! 

bow low and pay homage to the goddess of beer, feeble mortal!

[meekon5]

...that would be a challenge on a date with me!  

bow low and pay homage to the goddess of beer, feeble mortal!

At the risk of turning this into a pissing contest ().

I don't play drinking games on a first date.

A few years ago I was round my Mum's for Sunday lunch,

My Mum and I drank a bottle of gin between us, whilst my step father drank half a bottle of whiskey, we then drank a litre of sherry between the three of us, then drank a three litre wine box of red wine.

Not good times I'm afraid.

That was back when I considered myself to have a bit of a problem. I may do a couple of bottles of wine on a good evening now.

I don't know about your neck of the woods but beer in the UK rarely goes above 5%, so the gin at 28%, the wine at about 10-13%, and the sherry at 18%, makes for an afternoon that i wont ever remember.

(All drinking quantities ascertained from forensic evidence the next morning).

[Busmum]

...that would be a challenge on a date with me! 

bow low and pay homage to the goddess of beer, feeble mortal!

At the risk of turning this into a pissing contest ().

I don't play drinking games on a first date.

A few years ago I was round my Mum's for Sunday lunch,

My Mum and I drank a bottle of gin between us, whilst my step father drank half a bottle of whiskey, we then drank a litre of sherry between the three of us, then drank a three litre wine box of red wine.

Not good times I'm afraid.

That was back when I considered myself to have a bit of a problem. I may do a couple of bottles of wine on a good evening now.

I don't know about your neck of the woods but beer in the UK rarely goes above 5%, so the gin at 28%, the wine at about 10-13%, and the sherry at 18%, makes for an afternoon that i wont ever remember.

(All drinking quantities ascertained from forensic evidence the next morning).

waaaaaaahow... you sir, make charlie sheen and robert downey jr. look like neophytes! 

i generally stick to the barley, meself; it's not a game, it's a form of worship!

would that pissing contest be about quantity, frequency, or placement? tee hee...