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The duality of Dude
« on: October 08, 2010, 10:53:13 AM »
You know what I find  really interesting man?
Aside from big chested strippers and oat soda I mean..

The very Essence of Dudlieness is Abiding. But
remember he was one of the Authors of the Port Huron Statement.
Which was a real 'ie' not invented in the movie document which was
put together by the SDS (STUDENTS FOR A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY)
The early leaders of the SDS actually evolved the group to include an
arm called the "Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM)"
a faction of SDS, which advocated a more militant course of action.
The Weathermen came from the same group.
They were militants and not just in words.
Members of Weathermen, went underground in March 1970 following the Greenwich Village
townhouse explosion, an incident in which three members of the organization died
when an explosive device, intended for a servicemen's ball, detonated prematurely.

Man I seriously hate to be a bummer but the dude's pedigree does
put him at the middle of some things that would on face value seem
very undude man.
And since he was in fact one of the authors of a "statement" of beliefs
we must assume that he was not just  like a child who
wanders in in the middle of a movie  and wants to know...

Lost my train of thought.

Not sure where to go with that but if writing is a series of choices,
and the Coens chose this for the Dude then it was a conscious choice
man. And what were they saying there?
About Dude. About the 60's. About washed up old hippies riding around
and having the occasional acid flashback.
I know that I'm glad he's out there....
Did the Bums lose?
Man they could have chose to end it with him starting an internet
company and making billions. Some of the real dudes did.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 11:01:22 AM by BikerDude »

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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2010, 11:17:02 AM »
It was the Thai sticks dude....the Thai sticks.
We all start out as Little Urban Achievers man, but, hopefully, as we live we learn, and, again hopefully, we learn to abide.

Who here among us is without sin?
There are not Answers.....there are only Choices.

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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2010, 12:20:09 PM »
Oh man.. look I'm not pointing fingers at the dude but I'm wondering if my thinking about this case has become up tight.
I mean clearly the Dude hungers for justice, whether it be rug pee'ers
or fascists. Perhaps Abiding is the norm but once provoked man.
You know?
Maybe then it's "Come on, fuckheads!"
I won't say a hee-ro,
'cause what's a hee-ro?--but sometimes
there's a man.


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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 09:36:04 PM »
All The Dude ever wanted was his rug back.
But then...there was that 20 Gs or clams or what have you dangling in front of him like a golden stash. He just had to chase after the illusion.
Done in by his baser instincts again.
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 03:44:43 PM »
Oh man.. look I'm not pointing fingers at the dude but I'm wondering if my thinking about this case has become up tight.
I mean clearly the Dude hungers for justice, whether it be rug pee'ers
or fascists. Perhaps Abiding is the norm but once provoked man.
You know?
Maybe then it's "Come on, fuckheads!"
I won't say a hee-ro,
'cause what's a hee-ro?--but sometimes
there's a man.



Yeah, I'm getting what you mean now.
Like when The Dude confronted DaFino. Man The Dude sure had a pair of testicles that night after having zesty coitus with Maude! Was ready to pull DaFino out of his vw bug and give him a real asswhoopin for following him around and spying on him.
Like most of us, we abide as best we can, but don't get in our face dude!
We try and do no harm, but if you mess with us...get ready for an asswhoopin!

« Last Edit: October 10, 2010, 09:01:30 PM by cckeiser »
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 05:46:48 PM »
You know what I find  really interesting man?
Aside from big chested strippers and oat soda I mean..

The very Essence of Dudlieness is Abiding.

Dude, I always find it darn interesting when someone says that ("The very Essence of Dudlieness is Abiding") because every dude has his own take on "abiding." Which is a good thing otherwise Dudeism would become stagnate, boring and be in danger of the ever present status quo of an "authority" claiming that they have the one and only first and uncompromisable definition of "abiding."

Fuck that, can't abide that authority shit which appeals to airheads and people looking to be lead by other people's leads.

While I believe that Dudeism in it's best form is the "first draft," "abiding" is a personal thing unique to each dude and dudette. That is to say that the value of "abiding" is fluid and changing as it moves through each person.

What is your take on abiding? What does it mean for you and other dudes?

Is it difference for each person, does it have some basic foundations and differs here and there, or is it as different as a darker'n black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night from daytime on a hot sunny beach filled with half naked hot women? (nice visual wouldn't you admit? ...the half naked women part? ...fucking eh) >>>>>

Just for visual effect, mang.........

** Option one...



** Option two...



Anyway, that is just like my opinion, man.

Abide.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2010, 06:02:09 PM by digitalbuddha »
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 06:34:33 PM »


Is it difference for each person, does it have some basic foundations and differs here and there, or is it as different as a darker'n black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night from daytime on a hot sunny beach filled with half naked hot women? (nice visual wouldn't you admit? ...the half naked women part? ...fucking eh) >>>>>


Anyway, that is just like my opinion, man.

Abide.

half naked women?!


Looks like option two has the lead so far. There has to be a cash machine around somewhere.............
« Last Edit: February 15, 2011, 01:52:28 AM by digitalbuddha »
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 01:01:24 PM »
"What is your take on abiding? What does it mean for you and other dudes?"

I guess, right here right now, 'abiding' for me means trying to maintain a balance between  the pressures and obligations of being a parent and developing a mellow nurturing vibe of positivity that my daughters can absorb and use as a kind of mental compass to find their way back from the dramatic tangents,  fears and pressures that young minds are prone to. It ain't friggin' easy.

Abiding, as you so eloquently put it: "is fluid and changing - "  - it is the sense (for me) that we are surviving; that is to say the essence of ourselves, the bit we like best about being human. When the roar of the world subsides for awhile, when we are surprised by the beauty of the natural world after a period of immersion in tribulation - we suddenly come up for air in these moments. Maybe recall that once we were alright guys/gals, whatever and that we would like to keep that feeling around a little longer:  keep the Dudeness of us alive. Surviving. Rolling. Despite the demands of nihilists, the 'Man', whomever - there is spark of something that we try and protect, nurture. Unfortunately the world twists and distorts, pollutes that which we hold most dear. It is under constant attack from the world we have allowed to come into being. Our senses are assaulted with illusion, manufactured desire and what-have-you - anyway, rambling up onto the Cliche Plateau, here.

I guess what I wanted to say is that abiding for me, right now (and for many years to come, I hope) is good parenting.  8)

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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 09:14:00 PM »
Dude, that was some good words on abiding.
If they pee on your rug...



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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 01:36:53 AM »
Before you're a dude, you might have to go through some un-dudely stuff first; I know I did

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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 01:53:20 AM »
Before you're a dude, you might have to go through some un-dudely stuff first; I know I did

We all have some undudeness in us.
If they pee on your rug...



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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 11:09:03 AM »
Before you're a dude, you might have to go through some un-dudely stuff first; I know I did

Hey! Welcome Wratts dude!
Any rug in the house dude! 8)
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 03:22:56 PM »
I completly agree with DB here we all have the undude in us. Reference my recent attack on what I thought was an insult about my disability. I think the thing is to realise and accept the undudly and perceiver to attain the dude aspect.

Last time I talked with a practicing Buddhist Monk (Nun technically) she said that even though she continues to have problems with her mind wondering during meditation and daily life she just gently leads it back to the calm state.

Whilst studying Yoga I was impressed by the zen yoga idea that whilst practicing meditation that small time you have reached a state of peacefulness increases the worlds state of peacfullness.

So that small part of our lives we spend actually achieving the Dude state means  the world is that proportion more Dude, for that moment.
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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2011, 05:19:45 PM »
Abiding to me is simply being calm in all situations.

For more years than I care to remember I've been labelled "calm" or in other parlance "unflappable" Basically I take things in my stride.

My mother (a catholic) used to terrify me (unintentionally I'm sure) with the words...goodnight, godbless and see you in the morning if we're spared.

After many sleepless nights when I sort of realised that maybe I wasn't going to be murdered in my sleep I became aware of living for the moment...and would sleep in hope....then I joined up....same shit different day...  ;)

Now I practice "do no harm" in the vague and quite pointless hope that the Multiverse won't do any harm to me.... Recent events have shown this to be false.

I'm actually beginning to think that maybe I should be a bit more ruthless ..use the skills I've learned and become a dude ninja. Maybe just take over as the local drugs Baron. No harm no foul. (At least I'd be dealing with good intent!)

Dudely peace.

Love is like a butterfly it goes where it pleases and it pleases where it goes. :)

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Re: The duality of Dude
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2011, 09:07:04 PM »
Yeah, dude, sometimes shit happens even to the most worthy dudes. It's how we deal with the shit that makes us dudes. It's hard sometimes to abide and not worry about that shit, but life goes on man and we got to deal with it the best we can or risk becoming just another Nihilist human paraquat fucking strangers in the ass!
A wiser fellow than myself once said something to the effect that what we project into the Universe is what our Universe is created from. Project hate, and our Universe will be filled with hate. Project Love, and our Universe will be filled with Love.
We reap what we sow.
Now I want to believe that's the way it is, and I do try my best to live by that, but either way, it just seems like doing no harm should be the fundamental way to live life.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2011, 09:16:35 PM by cckeiser »
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