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Re: Shit we need to kick around
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 06:28:11 AM »
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    How the Hell did that happen???

    I did not like that article???

    I thought the article was complete unresearched rubbish.

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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 07:02:56 AM »
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  • How the Hell did that happen???

    I did not like that article???

    I thought the article was complete unresearched rubbish.

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    It's minimal research, he's probably some born again christian. ;D
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #17 on: February 12, 2011, 09:20:26 PM »
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  • There is a thread on the Facebook that is dealing with the accusation that Dudeism is just another phallocentric religion. Here's the link: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/02/yet_another_patriarchal_faith.php

    Will come back and comment on this soon.


    How the Hell did that happen???

    I did not like that article???

    I thought the article was complete unresearched rubbish.

    Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

    I totally agree it was far from an in-depth analysis.

    However, I wouldn't say Dudeists are any freer from sexism than the general populace. Everyone needs to be mindful to one degree or another. For instance, it looks like the vast majority (95-98% perhaps) of names nominated for Great Dudes in History (http://dudeism.com/smf/index.php?topic=31.0) are male.

    No doubt this figure is pretty close to being representative of the current gender make-up of the membership, which some Dudes have said they want to change. I think it's also true that when you say "Dude," the gender of the image in most people's minds is male. A few here are trying to change that as well, and I think cc is right when he says it's going to take awhile. I think it will also take many voices, as well as a good amount of conscious effort (although the latter may be thought of as unDudely), and, of course, abiding...

     
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #18 on: February 13, 2011, 09:25:57 AM »
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  • We also need to emphasise that having facial hair is not required.

    Stick to the gender neutral "Dude", but don't be up tight and brow beat people over it.

    We need to allow space for feminine Dudeism to grow, but actively trying to coerce ladies to join us over here probably would lead to some unDudely behaviour.

    And maybe you are looking at this from the wrong direction, maybe gents are the ones who are actually the ones society is trying to keep away from Dudeism. Society tends to glorify aggression in men, and a lot of pressure is put on men to be anti-Dude, achieve, compete and gather the most toys. In some respects I see that pressure as part of Dudeisms creation, societies sexism against men.

    Much of western culture places expectations on men, saying they  should be all Big Lebowskis, when some of us just want to be a Dude. It's the rest of societies phallocentrism that created the space for Dudeism's genesis.

    I am fairly sure no lady Dude would come in here and say, "what a bunch of sexist pigs!". But I also don't see a lot of lady Dudes saying, "oh yeah, this mancave is for me". Some day we will see the rise of the Lady Dudes, but it's not really up to us to force it to happen.

    I also kinda think most Lady Dudes are off doing Yoga and Zen, they look at us and say, "okay Dudes, we sit on rugs too, welcome to the party".

    But hey, that's all just like my opinion man.

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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #19 on: February 13, 2011, 09:38:56 AM »
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  • good points, GMS. you're probably right about most of them.

    i do think that we could benefit from more special ladies, but we shouldn't force it. and anyway, if it isn't about gender or natural zesty enterprises then it hardly matters whether we've got beavers or johnsons or bags of birdseed down there. it don't matter to the dudeist.

    still, it's a hurdle we'll have to keep jumping over - the gender connotations associated with the word "dude". but fuck it, it's good exercise. keeps the mind limber.

    incidentally, "dude" comes from "dandy" (yankee doodle dandy) and dandy is middle english for "fool" or "trickster" so the origin of the word is totally gender neutral. and it also supports meekons assertions that the dude is a cognate with the fool in tarot symbolism.

    it's a brave dude world, pendejos. cheers to that.
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #20 on: February 13, 2011, 10:37:01 AM »
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  • I am with you two on that. Think that is basically what I wanted to get at in the Sarah Silverman thread. Was just a bit more "convoluted" in my thoughts. Must check my drug regimen. ;D

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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 09:40:04 PM »
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  • Well, yeah, fer sure - no one is planning to coerce anyone, that has never been on the cards; just sorting out the language, is all.   8)


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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 09:50:26 PM »
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  • ha ha. that's marvelous. love the dudeist sun. makes me feel all warm inside.
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 01:21:28 AM »
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  • Well, yeah, fer sure - no one is planning to coerce anyone, that has never been on the cards; just sorting out the language, is all.   8)


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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #24 on: February 19, 2011, 04:57:43 PM »
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  • There is a thread on the Facebook that is dealing with the accusation that Dudeism is just another phallocentric religion. Here's the link:
    Will come back and comment on this soon.

    I think that Dudeism is strongly vaginal.

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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #25 on: February 25, 2011, 09:41:25 AM »
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  • Setting aside for a moment that I have a hard time taking seriously anybody who regularly uses the term "patriarchal" in a modern context, I'm not sure how this guy drew his conclusions.  Is a religion sexist just because it *happens* to attract predominantly members of one gender or another?  I don't recall seeing any Dudeist (man or woman) actively attempting to repel members of the opposite sex.

    And furthermore, what if many of us reject the entire concept of gender as an antiquated binary that unfairly limits and stifles the human experience?  Why can't "dude" just as easily stand in for the algebraic "x", as in "insert meaning here"?  "Dude" can mean anything from "man", "woman", or "human being" to "the Queen in Her Damned Undies" or what-have-you, just as easily as it can refer to some rigid, Western concept of maleness.  

    Seriously, maybe this PZ Myers guy is some kind of an expert in some field of academia, but the way he tries to condense thirteen years of beautiful tradition into something he can easily label and categorize strikes me as the behavior of a real reactionary, who tries to come off as edgy and insightful but whose thinking about this case has, nonetheless, become very uptight.
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #26 on: February 25, 2011, 10:23:20 AM »
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  • Quaker Dude, you have some decent investigative skills man. There are a lot of ins an outs, PZ seems to have missed all the new shit that has come to light.

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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #27 on: February 25, 2011, 12:37:24 PM »
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  • Yeah! What the Quaker Dude said! ;D
    Testify brothers and sisters! Testify!!

    And dudes, it has been proven....I mean according to statistics...within the forum limits....there are actually more  vagina dudes then there are johnson dudes! That whole misconception about male dominated dudeness is not the real reality dudes.
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #28 on: February 25, 2011, 05:47:18 PM »
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  • And dudes, it has been proven....I mean according to statistics...within the forum limits....there are actually more  vagina dudes then there are johnson dudes!

    I was going to say that we should publish those stats, but thinking about it that would take the whole purpose of "Dude" not being gender specific away. The point (for me) is that it shouldn't matter.
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    Re: Shit we need to kick around
    « Reply #29 on: February 25, 2011, 06:28:50 PM »
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  • I'd like to see that stats and think it would be good to post them somewhere on the site so people doing their research can see them.
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