No offense meant - I have huge respect for you...

Hominid sorry I shouldn't try to type stuff just as I'm leaving the office.

That came out entirely wrong. It was not meant as aggressively as it came out.

Let me try  and expand what I was trying to say.

Firstly it is my entire joy of the concept of Dudeism that both you and I can both just as equally call ourselves Dudeist with such divergent viewpoints and still be right.

But for me Dudeism doesn't belong to Oliver any more, it did until it went public domain.

Though Oliver came up with the revelation, all my life I have hovered around a Zen/Taoist point of view but had problems reconsiling that viewpoint with living in the west. Dudeism reconciles that problem for me, whether it was initially meant as a jest or not.

Also it doesn't actually matter that you don't take it seriously, it matters that I take it seriously.

More accurately I should have said it doesn't matter to me, and doesn't change my point of view that you don't take it seriously, it matters that I take it seriously,

As i said to my godson when he picked up one of my important crystals at home, it doesn't matter that he doesn't believe it matters that I believe.

It is my belief that each individual is the center of their own perception of the universe, following Descartes arguments that you cannot communicate directly with anyone brain to brain.

When you enter an ancient cathederal or any place of worship that has existed for a long while (stonehenge, the golden temple at amritsar) you feel a feeling of great awe.

Now is that awe from something outside the place, or from the place, perhaps from the other people there, or the amount of people in the past who have felt awe there and have left the feeling, or is it because you think you should feel awe yourself?

Or is any of it important?

It's not important to Dudeism that I believe it is a serious extension of Taoism and Zen with a western humourist edge to make it more palatable to more people, and you don't, because both points of view work  and have brought both of us together here to communicate in a way we probably would never have done if it was not for Dudeism.

And also yes some of us explode a bit when we may feel you (as you generally not you specifically) seem to be disrespecting what we hold as a very sincere point of view, but no opinion should stand without being questioned.

Meekon, thanks for that link, most enlightening. As i've mentioned i'm currently trying to write my degree on religions with roots in popculture. And been told at the university that as a part of the learning process is to "kill your darlings" but ive gone the opposite approach and said fuck it and took my darling (Dudeism) bowling and have tried to always supply her with a perpetually fresh beverage.

So it's more or less gold to get to partake in your discussions, makes me feel that im not on a complete wild goosechase.
My thought is to investigate if movements like Dudeism just are products of our postmodern society or some form of "stand" against a more and more capitalist driven world

My thought is to investigate if movements like Dudeism just are products of our postmodern society or some form of "stand" against a more and more capitalist driven world

Both.

Also possibly a reaction to information overload as well.

I do believe that there is some debate about the relevance of the term "Post Modernism". I was reading an article a while back but can't remember the detail. I'll try and find that.

Yeah, that too...have been nursing the thought of applying some type of ecology of religion that movements like Dudeism is some sorta form of reaction of our living enviorment, that we more and more are being invaded optically and audio..caly...by the sounds and sights of commercialism. That we as humans more and more are taking the role of cattle in an overly commercialised world, I'm thinking neuromarketing and what have you.

We consume there for are we of use in society. And the dudely ways represents something that appeals to people, the whole thing of just dropping the hustle and bustle and pour your self a Caucasian...But that might fall in under information overload when i think about it though...

Hominid, so would you call yourself a true and blue postmodern man? You seem to live along the lines of partaking in the everexpanding postmodern "smorgasbord" trying a lil bit of this and a lil bit of this and knowing that is in your full right to move on if you don't like the particular spread.

Can't for the life in me remember who coined the phrase and theory or what it was really about but it was something about applying a sorta "what's in it for me" approach to life in general including religion. That it is a given that Joe twelvepack can move from being a snakehandler, dropping that when the thrill of blowing raspberries in the face of the reaper dies down and give holistic medicine a go.

Ah, thanks. But if postmodernity is dead and its view the elusiveness of meaning and knowledge with it. Does that make Dudeism as a remnant of postmoderinty or like some sort of bastillion of postmodern thinking or can it be precised as a new form of beast altogether?

Lost my train of thought there for a moment, i was gonna ask you dudes if i have your permission to refer to your sage words in my paper?

We are posting to a public discussion board...I believe that puts it in public domain and can be used/quoted at will.
But that's just like my opinion dude.